A24 4,339 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 USB is digital, there shouldn't be any unexpected anomalies. USB Class 1 can't read 24 bit/192 kHz resolution files though ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Apparently USB isn't as clean an interconnect as you'd think, especially if the cable runs longer or thinner, and bits can become lost along the way. And it doesn't transmit a steady stream like optical cables do, rather it sends data in "packets", which can make it prone to errors, and some soundcards aren't as good as others. Very interesting. I'll have to switch computers and see if my other one sounds better. If not, it might be the cheapie USB cable itself that came with the DAC. Mattris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,339 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Go ahead and buy that $500 USB cable. It's your money! Personally I'm using them free USB cables and never experienced anything weird. It either works or it doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Well there's obviously a weak link in this chain that's causing intermittent distortion. The DAC's BT is fine, it's only coming through the computer/USB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,339 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Just try another USB cable. Do you also have distortion while playing CDs with your CD-ROM? Or only with 192 kHz files? Distortion usually points to a driver issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 I'll have to procure another USB cable as I don't have any other A-to-B ones in my house. I haven't played any 192khz files (don't have any), just 44khz ones on my computer or on Spotify. And the distortion usually happens when it gets a bit bassy. I tried the same tracks from my separate CD player and my phone via BT and none of that distorted crackling was present. So it might just be the computer, or some component inside, that itself isn't up to par. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 I haven’t spent as much on this as some of you but I got a new Sony turntable during the week and some bookshelf speakers Jurassic Shark and Ricard 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 Use a UBS connection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,339 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 After exactly 7 weeks, my Wharfedale Linton speakers finally arrived! Pew! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 No baffles?!😗 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,339 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 Baffles? Do you mean grilles? Anyway, now that I listened to them somewhat, I'm not entirely convinced that these are the speakers for me. Low mids are too warm, too rich, and treble is a bit veiled: There's not enough 'air' surrounding the voices/instruments. Of course, a lot depends on the recordings. Bass and sound stage are great though. Maybe I have to get used to them. Now listening with a bit of treble adjustment on my amp ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothless 964 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 Updated my setup a bit 🙂 I’m Keeping the ATH-MSR7b as portable headphone but I got a new Beyerdynamic Amiron Home for home use coupled with a pair of Yamaha HS5 and an Audient iD4 MK2 sound card bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothless 964 Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 @bruce marshall Why is that confusing? bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,339 Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 It's his favorite emoticon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,339 Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 Yesterday I played a lot of testing material (sine waves at various frequencies, etc) to loosen the drivers of my new Linton speakers, and lo and behold, the difference that I heard at the end of the day was immense! My complaint about the midrange seems to be pretty much resolved. Never experienced anything like it. It's almost as if the midrange driver was literally rusted shut. Yes, it's still a warm tone but it's way more balanced now. At least, I think it is. Will check today to see if I wasn't dreaming. Playing the soundtrack of The Revenant just blew me away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,544 Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 On 5/12/2021 at 5:50 AM, AC1 said: Yesterday I played a lot of testing material (sine waves at various frequencies, etc) to loosen the drivers of my new Linton speakers... What was the "testing material" that you played, Alex? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,369 Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 Richard's back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,529 Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 23 minutes ago, Jay said: Richard's back? Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,369 Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 Very good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 49 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: What was the "testing material" that you played, Alex? Sine waves, and possibly a cosine wave or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Naïve Old Fart 9,544 Posted May 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 19, 2021 7 minutes ago, Jay said: Very good I just couldn't stay away. Truth is, I missed you guys. The comments that led to my absence, were...misguided. 4 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Sine waves, and possibly a cosine wave or two. Any more of that, and you'll get a cosine wave up your ass! Jurassic Shark, Jay, The Illustrious Jerry and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 For the record, Richard never left; he just took a 14-days vacation. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,544 Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 I hate the fucking Eagles, man! Jurassic Shark and Bilbo 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,339 Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 3 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said: What was the "testing material" that you played, Alex? Yes, mostly sine wives (40 Hz, 45 Hz, 50 Hz, 60 Hz, etc), sweeps, bass heavy tracks that I found on youtube, concert bass drum passages, ... those are the things I remember. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 3 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: For the record, Richard never left; he just took a 14-days vacation. No ban? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,339 Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 He just needed to recharge his batteries. And now he's better than ever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 *batteries not included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,544 Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 10 hours ago, AC1 said: He just needed to recharge his batteries. And now he's better than ever! Better believe it, dude! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,339 Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 18 hours ago, AC1 said: Yes, mostly sine wives ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,544 Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 20 hours ago, AC1 said: Yes, mostly sine wives (40 Hz, 45 Hz, 50 Hz, 60 Hz, etc), sweeps, bass heavy tracks that I found on YouTube, concert bass drum passages, ... those are the things I remember. Did you play the EARTHQUAKE sound effects tracks? There's a test CD that plays just about every frequency that the human ear can hear, at once. It lasts for two minutes, and is meant to sonically clean your hi-fi. I've heard (no pun intended) that it's good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,339 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 9 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said: Did you play the EARTHQUAKE sound effects tracks? No, didn't think of that. New (used) amp on its way! Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,544 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Ooh, Denon. Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 2 hours ago, AC1 said: No, didn't think of that. New (used) amp on its way! How many amps have you got now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,339 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 It should be arriving today ... ... to replace my Pioneer A-A9-J ... Goodbye old friend ... 1 minute ago, Jurassic Shark said: How many amps have you got now? 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Wow, that's not a good design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,339 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 is it really that bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,544 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 It's not bad. I've seen worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,339 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 The Pioneer is a dual mono amp, so yeah, let the bidding begin! Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,544 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 I have friends who monoblock, but this is slightly different, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,339 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Yes, it's still an integrated amp and everything sits in the same housing. The Denon PMA-1510AE (listening right now) is also a dual or double mono design. The sound seems more weighty with the Denon than with the Pioneer. I was expecting that I could connect two pair of speakers (it has A and B connectors) but it's only for bi-wiring. Grrr! Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Turn of the bass boost then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,339 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 It doesn't have bass boost or loudness. That's for amateurs! Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 It doesn't have loudness? What does that mean? That you can't hear anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,544 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 22 minutes ago, AC1 said: The sound seems more weighty with the Denon than with the Pioneer. It would! 22 minutes ago, AC1 said: I was expecting that I could connect two pair of speakers (it has A and B connectors) but it's only for bi-wiring. Grrr! You'll have to get yourself a pair of bi-wired speakers. 15 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: It doesn't have loudness? What does that mean? That you can't hear anything? Eejit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,339 Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,339 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Bought this yesterday at a thrift shop for 20 Euro. Back then (around 2008) it was a staggering 1000 Euro. Played some CDs and a SACD (Steely Dan's Gaucho) with it and it sounds pretty good. It will be my main CD player for now. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Who 919 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 On 12/26/2020 at 3:16 PM, His Royal Noelness said: Wrong. I waited until Christmas morning. It’s really nice. Probably not suited to film music but Oasis sounded good on it last night! I've been considering getting a HomePod mini for the kitchen. Have you tried listening to more film scores on it? On another note I have a pair of rather large home built speakers which I've had for many years and which sound amazing (and are old and were built sometime in the 90s or even earlier. I think that the components are KEF för the bass, Motorola for the top and Audes 2 dome for the mid mid. I recently I started getting distortion in the right speaker for certain frequencies and specifically piano, so much that it is impossible to use them. I have a feeling that it's the mid range that is the main issue and some pieces sound OK. They are connected to a NAD 7020 stereo receiver. They sound amazing so it's a real shame that this happened. Does anyone have any ideas what might be the problem and what I could do to fix them? Alternatively, recommend any other stereo speakers that sound good but don't cost an arm and a leg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,544 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 10 hours ago, AC1 said: Bought this yesterday at a thrift shop for 20 Euro. Back then (around 2008) it was a staggering 1000 Euro. Played some CDs and a SACD (Steely Dan's Gaucho) with it and it sounds pretty good. It will be my main CD player for now. Oh, wow! GAUCHO sounds great, in 5.1. If this can play 5.1 mixes in stereo, then do an A/B comparison with the two-channel reduced, and the original stereo mix. They sound a lot different from each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,339 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 No idea, Richard, I'm a stereo only guy. The stereo mix does sound good. I'm glad they didn't mess with the original sound. The remastered CDs have clearly added EQ. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,544 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Let's face it: GAUCHO would sound like a million dollars, even on a transistor radio! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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