Disco Stu 15,495 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 I listened to the Minority Report OST for the umpteenth time today and when I got to "A New Beginning," the end titles cue, I realized that this is probably my favorite end credits cue from any Williams score. It's an absolutely fucking gorgeous piece of music that's become one of my favorite Williams tracks period. What's your favorite end titles cue from a Williams score? Gruesome Son of a Bitch and Bespin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Empire Strikes Back forever. Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Loert 2,511 Posted February 28, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2016 My current favourite is TFA. Temple of Doom and The Last Crusade are really good as well. Cerebral Cortex, Bespin and Taikomochi 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted February 28, 2016 Author Share Posted February 28, 2016 4 minutes ago, Bespin said: Empire Strikes Back forever. Yeah, the "Han and Leia" theme is also absolutely fucking gorgeous. Edit: Meant "Han Solo and the Princess." TFA be confusin' me Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,349 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Angela's Ashes, ESB, Superman, ANH, TOD, Munich, Amistad etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted February 28, 2016 Author Share Posted February 28, 2016 The end credits from Born on the Fourth of July is another particular favorite of mine. Definitely my favorite of his Oliver Stone soundtracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Definitely Temple of Doom is pretty high up there, especially when you include the film version of "Return to the Village". crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Psycho Pianist 216 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 I really love Mischief Managed! from PoA. Even despite all the cuts, it just seems to work really well and showcases all of the brilliant themes in the film. Disco Stu and Once 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 2 hours ago, loert423 said: My current favourite is TFA. Temple of Doom and The Last Crusade are really good as well. This pretty much defines mine. Those are some of my favorite Williams bits in general too. I'd add PoA because, as The Psycho Pianist put, it really does a great job of showing off what a masterpiece that score is. I'd also throw in ROTS as an honorable mention, if only because of how ingeniously Williams propels Leia's Theme into Battle of the Heroes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Empire Strikes Back Temple of Doom Born on the Fourth of July I usually prefer end titles that are not mostly comprised of other cues edited together, as good as those kind of suites can be. Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted February 28, 2016 Author Share Posted February 28, 2016 7 hours ago, Red said: Empire Strikes Back Temple of Doom Born on the Fourth of July I usually prefer end titles that are not mostly comprised of other cues edited together, as good as those kind of suites can be. Well it's almost like they're two separate categories! So for me: Favorite end credits that's a suite editing together the themes of the movie: "Mischief Managed" from Prisoner of Azkaban Favorite end credits that's a distinct performance/composition: "A New Beginning" from Minority Report Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 13 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Favorite end credits that's a suite editing together the themes of the movie: "Mischief Managed" from Prisoner of Azkaban One of my least favourite. 12 minutes long and about 10 of them regurgitated from the rest of the CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted February 28, 2016 Author Share Posted February 28, 2016 1 minute ago, Stefancos said: One of my least favourite. 12 minutes long and about 10 of them regurgitated from the rest of the CD. Yep! It's convenient when I don't have time to listen to the whole CD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,364 Posted February 28, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2016 Might actually be TFA for me! Disco Stu, Taikomochi and Cerebral Cortex 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 It's certainly one of his best. Up there with the also outstanding TESB end title. Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted February 28, 2016 Author Share Posted February 28, 2016 It is a wonder to behold, the TFA finale, but I'll give it year before declaring it my favorite of the suite of themes variety! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 ESB, TOD, and Jurassic Park are all time classics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 The Towering Inferno Jaws Star Wars Close Encounters of the Third Kind The Empire Strikes Back Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom Amazing Stories SpaceCamp Jurassic Park Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone Star Wars: The Force Awakens That was really hard to narrow down, but I think those are my favorites! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,043 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Ugh, so many great ones to choose from. TFA is obviously fresh on everyone's mind, and I can't help including it on my list either. Structurally, it's among Williams' very best. And honestly, I love all the Star Wars credits cues, with ESB and ANH probably at the top. Even the ROTS credits, which overall are kind of lazy, do have those chillingly great transitions into and out of Battle of the Heroes. Jurassic Park definitely belongs on my list as well, as does the first part of the POA credits (the part that was written specifically for the credits). Structurally, I don't think the E.T. credits are that strong, but they belong on my list purely on the basis of how wonderful the music is (especially the opening piano solo). Then there are all the Indy scores. Raiders basically "just" uses the Raiders March - but I'm guessing it was written specifically for the credits and then adapted into a concert suite, not the other way around, and it's obviously fantastic. The other three - even KOTCS -are all very good, but none of them feel quite as natural to me, so Raiders wins there. Overall favorite? Not sure. Probably one of the Star Warses. Probably ANH or ESB, but TFA is really giving them a run for their money while it's still so fresh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 See, I love E.T.'s end credits, including the alternate on the 1996 CD, but I prefer the score ending with "The Departure" as on the OST. So, for me, those end credits are an oddity and I rarely listen to them for whatever reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted February 28, 2016 Author Share Posted February 28, 2016 49 minutes ago, E.T. and Elliot said: See, I love E.T.'s end credits, including the alternate on the 1996 CD, but I prefer the score ending with "The Departure" as on the OST. So, for me, those end credits are an oddity and I rarely listen to them for whatever reason. The piano in the E.T. end credits is just....yeah, all the positive adjectives. Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,511 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 6 hours ago, E.T. and Elliot said: ... Star Wars Close Encounters of the Third Kind The Empire Strikes Back ... Woah, I can't believe I forgot this one! That "When You Wish Upon a Star" arrangement is really quite beautiful. Also didn't Williams once say that this was his favourite piece of film music he wrote? Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 It's obviously ridiculously underrated around these parts, which makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,043 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 6 hours ago, E.T. and Elliot said: See, I love E.T.'s end credits, including the alternate on the 1996 CD, but I prefer the score ending with "The Departure" as on the OST. So, for me, those end credits are an oddity and I rarely listen to them for whatever reason. I can appreciate that. I mean, the end of "The Departure" is pretty freaking powerful. But I love going from that thunderous final crescendo into the softer elegance of the end credits. Something really neat about the contrast. CE3K really needs a complete remastered release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 The CE3K OST is perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Its doesn't need the disco track! Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 This is a perennial question. So difficult to pick one from the master of these end credit suites. Top candidates include The Empire Strikes Back Star Wars The Force Awakens Jurassic Park Born on the Fourth of July Far and Away Indiana Jones scores (all sport fine lengthy end title compositions) A.I. Artificial Intelligence Lincoln The Witches of Eastwick War Horse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellosh 3,419 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 No particular order: Temple of Doom KOTCS Empire Strikes Back A New Hope War Horse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie 45 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Has to be TESB. The gorgeous HSAP and Force theme quotes, the energetic rendition of Yoda's Theme with the Rebel Fanfare counter motif, launching into the Imperial March and ending with HSAP theme, and topped off with an emphatic augmentation (the drawing out into longer note length) of Vader's theme as four orchestral stabs... He was on fire that day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 7 hours ago, Incanus said: A.I. Artificial Intelligence Really? I mean, I love the score, but wouldn't consider either End Title composition to be its strong point! The Abandoned in the Woods expansion was wisely not used to kick off the end credits as Williams intended (but its nice enough on CD, though the problem is its not TERRIBLY different from teh actual film cue), and the Monica's Theme arrangement for soprano solo is too opera-y for my tastes. I prefer just ending things with The Reunion sometimes, honestly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted March 1, 2016 Author Share Posted March 1, 2016 A.I. is a score I really admire, but almost never find myself reaching for to listen. I need to revisit it soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 8 hours ago, Disco Stu said: A.I. is a score I really admire, but almost never find myself reaching for to listen. I need to revisit it soon. This! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Aside from the obvious choices, how has no one mentioned this yet? One of his career highlights imo! Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,016 Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 This is one of the best ones. And a very overlooked one: Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Yes! Its superb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 19 hours ago, Jay said: Really? I mean, I love the score, but wouldn't consider either End Title composition to be its strong point! The Abandoned in the Woods expansion was wisely not used to kick off the end credits as Williams intended (but its nice enough on CD, though the problem is its not TERRIBLY different from teh actual film cue), and the Monica's Theme arrangement for soprano solo is too opera-y for my tastes. I prefer just ending things with The Reunion sometimes, honestly! Where Dreams Are Born is sublime! The end credits version of Abandoned in the Woods is in opinion a more rounded version of the piece and it is a shame it wasn't used for the credit sequence in conjunction with Where Dreams Are Born. It would have perfectly showcased the two major aspects of the score. 1 hour ago, KK. said: Aside from the obvious choices, how has no one mentioned this yet? One of his career highlights imo! I think the version found in Suite for Cello and Orchestra is superb, better than the OST counterpart. 23 minutes ago, crocodile said: This is one of the best ones. And a very overlooked one: Karol Yes this one is terrific. I was floored the first time I heard it and it has remained a favourite ever since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 5 hours ago, Incanus said: Where Dreams Are Born is sublime! The end credits version of Abandoned in the Woods is in opinion a more rounded version of the piece and it is a shame it wasn't used for the credit sequence in conjunction with Where Dreams Are Born. It would have perfectly showcased the two major aspects of the score. I think it was wise to not begin with End Credits with the Abandoned In The Woods reprisal since the movie ends with 7 minutes of delicate imagery and music. It would be quite jarring to suddenly jump back two acts to that scary and loud music. Spielberg was wise to start the end credits with Where Dreams Are Born instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 I love how Presumed Innocent's gorgeous title theme bookends the film, matching the symmetry of the opening and closing shots, with Williams subtly amplifying the reprise with a judicious array of accents and flourishes. crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 7 hours ago, Incanus said: I think the version found in Suite for Cello and Orchestra is superb, better than the OST counterpart. Definitely!! The suite presents the superior rendition. But the OST still features the original composition, and it's still amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted March 2, 2016 Author Share Posted March 2, 2016 21 hours ago, Hlao-roo said: I love how Presumed Innocent's gorgeous title theme bookends the film, matching the symmetry of the opening and closing shots, with Williams subtly amplifying the reprise with a judicious array of accents and flourishes. I did not even know that Williams scored this movie. I need to seek this out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 14 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: I did not even know that Williams scored this movie. I need to seek this out. Well this one is not easy to find these days... I'm still waiting for a cheap used copy on Amazon. I will certainly not pay over 40 $ for it! 1990... maybe it's time for a reissue! Presumed Innocent [Original Motion Picture Soundtrack] (1990, Varèse Sarabande, VSD-5280) Presumed Innocent; Remembering Carolyn; Family Life; Love Scene; The B File; The Bedroom Scene; Carolyn's Office; "Leon Talks"; Rusty Accused; Case Dismissed; The Boat Scene; The Basement Scene; Barbara's Confession; End Crédits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Jaws 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bu03QvawmVw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 The closing scene and the fanfare, yes. But the stuff that comes after that, not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 I always loved the jaunty "open sea" scherzo. That horn/piccolo unison is amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 It's fine. The first Jaws also has an amazing end title cue, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted March 2, 2016 Author Share Posted March 2, 2016 Yes! That lovely music with the gentle ocean sound effects in the background. What a perfect ending to a perfect movie. I got to see Jaws in a movie theater for the 1st time last year for its 40th anniversary and my goodness that movie and its score was meant to be seen LOUD and with an audience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 I got to see it in Maine with an audience. Quite a thing I had Narrangansat beer and a Captain America burger! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uni 306 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Man . . . this is tougher than I would've figured at first blush. Not sure I can narrow it down further than the Top 5 (in no particular order, and all of which have already been mentioned): Close Encounters of the Third Kind The Empire Strikes Back Jurassic Park Temple of Doom Far and Away Close runners-up: SpaceCamp, "Harry's Wonderful World" from HP 1 & 2, and Born on the Fourth of July All of these present the major themes from the film in wonderful ways without simply photocopying what was in another part of the movie (POA is a great suite, but is very guilty of this). On 2/28/2016 at 6:32 PM, Disco Stu said: I listened to the Minority Report OST for the umpteenth time today and when I got to "A New Beginning," the end titles cue, I realized that this is probably my favorite end credits cue from any Williams score. It's an absolutely fucking gorgeous piece of music that's become one of my favorite Williams tracks period. Gotta nitpick: technically, this is an epilogue piece, playing over the final scenes of the movie, not an end credits suite (once the credits begin to roll as the camera pulls away from the isolated house, it switches to the actual end credits piece). Aside from that, however, I'm in complete agreement. This is one of the most sublime pieces Williams ever composed, and it's one of my favorites as well. 5 hours ago, Disco Stu said: I did not even know that Williams scored this movie. I need to seek this out. You really should. Presumed Innocent remains one of Williams's most overlooked scores from the 80s, and undeservedly so. It's not blockbuster material, to be sure, but it's a fantastic piano-based theme that fits the subject matter perfectly. It features a lot of rapidly-emerging secondary movements that never quite settle into themes of their own--an excellent musical allegory for a man torn in pieces by the circumstances of his life and work. Makes for a good end credits piece in its own right (I love how Williams changes its pace in the middle, accelerating it with high strings over a thundering low-string triple). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 19 minutes ago, Uni said: Man . . . this is tougher than I would've figured at first blush. Not sure I can narrow it down further than the Top 5 (in no particular order, and all of which have already been mentioned): Close Encounters of the Third Kind The Empire Strikes Back Jurassic Park Temple of Doom Far and Away Close runners-up: SpaceCamp, "Harry's Wonderful World" from HP 1 & 2, and Born on the Fourth of July All of these present the major themes from the film in wonderful ways without simply photocopying what was in another part of the movie (POA is a great suite, but is very guilty of this). Gotta nitpick: technically, this is an epilogue piece, playing over the final scenes of the movie, not an end credits suite (once the credits begin to roll as the camera pulls away from the isolated house, it switches to the actual end credits piece). Aside from that, however, I'm in complete agreement. This is one of the most sublime pieces Williams ever composed, and it's one of my favorites as well. You really should. Presumed Innocent remains one of Williams's most overlooked scores from the 80s, and undeservedly so. It's not blockbuster material, to be sure, but it's a fantastic piano-based theme that fits the subject matter perfectly. It features a lot of rapidly-emerging secondary movements that never quite settle into themes of their own--an excellent musical allegory for a man torn in pieces by the circumstances of his life and work. Makes for a good end credits piece in its own right (I love how Williams changes its pace in the middle, accelerating it with high strings over a thundering low-string triple). Ooh I forgot Close Encounters of the Third Kind. That's another good one. Minority Report's end credits does contain a full concertized arrangement of the theme heard in the epilogue, which is an entirely different arrangement and recording, not just truncated edit. The end credits of Presumed Innocent, from the 90's, is actually brilliant piece. The theme, the obsessive main theme heard throughout the score is finally offered a musical release. I consider the score is very effective and subtle one, illustrating obsessions of all kinds to the woman Harrison Ford's character has been infatuated with and how she haunts him in the form of the theme that repeats and repeats as he keeps remembering her after her death throughout the film. Interestingly the theme is entirely and tellingly absent from the finale confession scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uni 306 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 I actually like the stand-alone version of "A New Beginning" better than the concertized version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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