Koray Savas 2,251 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Would it be too meta for this to be called The Matrix Rebooted? _deleted_ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 How can it be a reboot if it's set in the same universe as the previous ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 917 Posted February 16, 2020 Author Share Posted February 16, 2020 Because the Matrix rebooted after Smith was destroyed? I think he means in the 'traditional' sense of the word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 The deux ex machina resurrection of dead characters in movies is annoying. The truth is they can't make this shit interesting without them. The implication of the original trilogy was that there have been many chosen ones before Neo. But I'm pretty sure they don't all look like Keanu f'n Reeves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 917 Posted February 16, 2020 Author Share Posted February 16, 2020 1 hour ago, gkgyver said: The deux ex machina resurrection of dead characters in movies is annoying. The truth is they can't make this shit interesting without them. The implication of the original trilogy was that there have been many chosen ones before Neo. But I'm pretty sure they don't all look like Keanu f'n Reeves. They're growing people in vats. Who knows? They could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 45 minutes ago, Giftheck said: They're growing people in vats. Who knows? They could. You speak of the Matrix or Hollywood producers? Edmilson and Giftheck 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,086 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Same shit, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 16 hours ago, Giftheck said: One of them is Practically Jesus. The other is... um... yeah, I got nothin'. Somehow, Trinity has returned mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 I just hope Don Davis is brought back for scoring the film. It wouldn't be the same with any other composer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 He probably won't even be considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 917 Posted February 17, 2020 Author Share Posted February 17, 2020 3 hours ago, Þekþiþm said: He probably won't even be considered. A while ago, I would have disagreed, but since Hugo Weaving was dropped like nothing, I could see this being the case and them going for a 'safe' option, like Giacchino. EDIT: I know some people are saying 'what if they ignore the MMORPG' but I'm starting to think it's still considered canon. It wouldn't be the first time this franchise tells a story in something other than film (Enter the Matrix) and it would explain why Morpheus is not present: he disappeared in the MMORPG while trying to find Neo, "never to be seen again". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 15 hours ago, Giftheck said: A while ago, I would have disagreed, but since Hugo Weaving was dropped like nothing, I could see this being the case and them going for a 'safe' option, like Giacchino. EDIT: I know some people are saying 'what if they ignore the MMORPG' but I'm starting to think it's still considered canon. It wouldn't be the first time this franchise tells a story in something other than film (Enter the Matrix) and it would explain why Morpheus is not present: he disappeared in the MMORPG while trying to find Neo, "never to be seen again". I can see Hugo Weaving being dropped. He was pretty much destroyed for good in Revolutions. I hope Morpheus does come back though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 917 Posted February 17, 2020 Author Share Posted February 17, 2020 Looking at the cast listing, I'm wondering if Pruyana Chopra is playing a grown-up version of Sati from Revolutions. Yahya Abdul-Mateen II is rumoured to play a young Morpheus, which makes little sense if Neo and Trinity are older than their previous appearance - why not get Laurence Fishburne back? Unless this is some sort of flashback sequence. 52 minutes ago, Trent B said: I can see Hugo Weaving being dropped. He was pretty much destroyed for good in Revolutions. I hope Morpheus does come back though. That means pretty much nothing, since Neo and Trinity are both emphatically dead at the end of Revolutions, yet here they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 I mean the fact is that Hugo Weaving was supposed to return until the scheduling conflict happened and Lana dropped his character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,086 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 What's John Wick doing in the film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 They digitally removed Henry Cavill's moustache in Justice League so I guess Keanu's beard won't be a problem either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_deleted_ 203 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Star Wars, then Aliens, then the Matrix. Are we stuck in a simulation??? 5 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: What's John Wick doing in the film? Weaponized Intertextuality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,086 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 All the good ideas are taken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,471 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 It's because today's kids are more familiarized with John Wick than Neo. Gotta keep up with the trend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 3 hours ago, Alexcremers said: They digitally removed Henry Cavill's moustache in Justice League so I guess Keanu's beard won't be a problem either. Perhaps they won't shave Keanu Reeves mustache. Especially if he has been inside the Matrix the entire time since Matrix Revolutions. I guess we'll wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Neo never had facial hair in the originals, leading me to believe that canonically, he can not grow facial hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 56 minutes ago, mstrox said: Neo never had facial hair in the originals, leading me to believe that canonically, he can not grow facial hair. Cannon can be thrown out the window after so many years between films especially if they're sequels. As we've seen with Star Trek Picard. A. A. Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,471 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Maybe this isn't THE Neo we all know and love, but another Chosen One? On Realoaded, the Architect said there had been about 6 of them. So maybe they needed another Chosen One to reboot the Matrix again, years after Neo removing Smith of the platform? Trent B 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 917 Posted February 20, 2020 Author Share Posted February 20, 2020 Why would they recreate Trinity also? Wouldn't it benefit them more to have a One who feels the 'general' attachment described in Reloaded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 3 hours ago, Giftheck said: Why would they recreate Trinity also? Wouldn't it benefit them more to have a One who feels the 'general' attachment described in Reloaded? Neo could have done that or because of the love connection that the Architect mentioned and he probably re-created Trinity. 3 hours ago, Edmilson said: Maybe this isn't THE Neo we all know and love, but another Chosen One? On Realoaded, the Architect said there had been about 6 of them. So maybe they needed another Chosen One to reboot the Matrix again, years after Neo removing Smith of the platform? I REALLY like this theory and it seems very plausible. By the way it's Reloaded not Realoaded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,471 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Trent B said: By the way it's Reloaded not Realoaded. Thanks. I really shouldn't have write this wrong, in Portuguese the movie's also called Matrix Reloaded (but no "The"), instead of a translated name (which would be "Matrix: Recarregado" or something). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, Edmilson said: Thanks. I really shouldn't have write this wrong, in Portuguese the movie's also called Matrix Reloaded (but no "The"), instead of a translated name (which would be "Matrix: Recarregado" or something). Ah ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothless 964 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Maybe Keanu must keep long hair and mustache by contract between John wick’s movies... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterTech 994 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Except the one still I've seen of Bill & Ted 3 has him clean shaven, so I'm guessing either that was shot a bit earlier or there might be a story reason for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 I think you guys are putting way too much thought into whether Keanu has facial hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,086 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 So Matrix 4 will be about the rise and fall of Neo's beard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 I haven't been this mad since Ruin Johnson destroyed the character of Luke Skywalker in The Last Jedi. Luke is a BEARDLESS CHARACTER. I don't think Ruin understood what Star Wars is all about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 He was obviously trying to emathculate him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 1 hour ago, mstrox said: I don't think Ruin understood what Star Wars is all about. Cinephiles, film historians and movie snobs drinking lattes in coffee shops call The Last Jedi a 'deconstruction of Star Wars'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 What does the beard represent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 It means: I'm not who you think I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 2 hours ago, mstrox said: I think you guys are putting way too much thought into whether Keanu has facial hair. It is there only because of contractual obligations. They will remove it in post... because that worked out so well last time. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,086 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 55 minutes ago, mstrox said: What does the beard represent? Facial hairs. 57 minutes ago, Alexcremers said: Cinephiles, film historians and movie snobs drinking lattes in coffee shops call The Last Jedi a 'deconstruction of Star Wars'. People like @Thor, you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Dekonthtrukthun of Thtarrh Wawwwth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Should have a story that the original Matrix was wrong, and that Trinity was the Chosen One all along. Pwogwewwive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Don't you guys want something more conservative? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 917 Posted February 24, 2020 Author Share Posted February 24, 2020 On 2/21/2020 at 5:34 PM, gkgyver said: Should have a story that the original Matrix was wrong, and that Trinity was the Chosen One all along. Pwogwewwive. Funny you should mention that, as it's basically what the MMORPG did - she was the one whose actions hit the final 'reboot' button on the Matrix. (Insert convoluted plot about The Oracle creating the Biological Interface Program, an effort to turn human DNA into machine code, and both Neo and Trinity being results of that) Jacck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,552 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 MMORPG? That's an anagram of "mm, porg" Giftheck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 917 Posted February 27, 2020 Author Share Posted February 27, 2020 The Merovingian is officially going to be in the film. SOURCE (in French) Jacck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 On 1/14/2020 at 6:11 AM, toothless said: https://translate.google.fr/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.allocine.fr%2Farticle%2Ffichearticle_gen_carticle%3D18687049.html On 1/14/2020 at 6:30 AM, Giftheck said: So this is basically saying Lambert Wilson will be reprising The Merovingian in the film, scheduling permitting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 917 Posted February 27, 2020 Author Share Posted February 27, 2020 Yeah, that was 'if my schedule allows', this is 'yes, my schedule allows it so I'm officially in'. Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,552 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 That's good news. I like Merv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 917 Posted March 16, 2020 Author Share Posted March 16, 2020 Filming has halted due to Covid-19. https://variety.com/2020/film/news/matrix-4-stops-production-coronavirus-1203532190/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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