Koray Savas 2,251 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 I thought you were being sarcastic so I didn't reply. Elton John and Tim Rice wrote the songs for The Lion King. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,519 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 10 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Except Elton John wrote it True. But many people also think Elton John wrote "The Lion Sleeps Tonight". There was apparently also a lawsuit over it's use in THE LION KING. HANNIBAL is a fine score, btw, but Zimmer was far from a solo composer on that. There were several other composers involved, several existing music tracks being used and the best and most iconic of them remains "Vide Cor Meum" by Patrick Cassidy. Josh500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 I have it on Google Play's authority that Anthony Hopkins was the main composer on that. They couldn't be inaccurate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Certainly not more acutely inaccurate than listing Hans Zimmer. Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,519 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Ha, ha...that's funny. Hopkins does dialogue on some tracks, that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,722 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 You guys are just having a go at me. Ha. Ha. Next thing you're going tell me Howard Shore didn't write May It Be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,519 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Correct track listing: 1. Dear Clarice (06:02) Hans Zimmer / Dialogue by Anthony Hopkins 2. Aria Da Capo (01:48) Johann Sebastian Bach / Performed by Glenn Gould 3. The Capponi Library (01:14) 4. Gourmet Valse Tartare (06:50) Klaus Badelt 5. Avarice (03:54) 6. For A Small Stipend (00:55) 7. Firenze Di Notte (03:09) Martin Tillman & Mel Wesson 8. Virtue (04:37) 9. Let My Home Be My Gallows (10:00) Hans Zimmer / Dialogue by Anthony Hopkins 10. The Burning Heart (04:24) Hans Zimmer / Dialogue by Anthony Hopkins 11. To Every Captive Soul (06:54) 12. Vide Cor Meum (04:20) Patrick Cassady / Libretto From Dante's "La Vita Nuova" Josh500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,722 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 20 minutes ago, Koray Savas said: I thought you were being sarcastic so I didn't reply. Elton John and Tim Rice wrote the songs for The Lion King. Where's Blood Boal? Only he gets my humour. Somebody bring me Blood Boal. And fetch me my bib! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Bloodboal doesn't understand humor. He's worse than Thor, Bespin, and Bollemanneke combined in this regard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,722 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 You're thinking of reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien F 1,742 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 1. John Williams 2. Jerry Goldsmith 3. James Horner 4. John Barry 5. Danny Elfman Herrman is sixth. Arnold, Giachinno and Newton Howard are definately in my top 7-10 in some order. If Arnold had continued his career the way he started with Stargate, ID4 and TND, he would have been in my 5 for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted September 19, 2017 Author Share Posted September 19, 2017 ALL the songs were written by Elton John! The Lion King score is great, buy let's be honest, the highlights really ARE the songs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Gay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Can't you feel the love tonight, pub? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted September 19, 2017 Author Share Posted September 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, publicist said: Gay! Yes, Elton John is gay. So? You like him? 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 It's just a flabby image i cannot bear at this late hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted September 19, 2017 Author Share Posted September 19, 2017 8 minutes ago, Damien F said: If Arnold had continued his career the way he started with Stargate, ID4 and TND, he would have been in my 5 for sure. I think Casino Royale is pretty high up there too! Damien F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 9 minutes ago, Damien F said: If Arnold had continued his career the way he started with Stargate, ID4 and TND, he would have been in my 5 for sure. THIS!!!!! Everything was different after those masterpieces. What happened!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Peak Hans Zimmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien F 1,742 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 6 minutes ago, Josh500 said: I think Casino Royale is pretty high up there too! Yup, CR is great. Closest score in the 21st century that matched his 90s high streak. Parts of Sherlock are fantastic too. But his output since TND is still disappointing compared to his potential when he exploded onto the scene. Even TWINE, which is still very good, is a big step down from TND. One of the reasons I love John Barry's Bond scores is that he was so consisently good throughout the decades. His quality remained the same even when his composing style changed. When Arnold changed his style, his quality dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 5 minutes ago, Damien F said: Yup, CR is great. Closest score in the 21st century that matched his 90s high streak. Parts of Sherlock are fantastic too. But his output since TND is still disappointing compared to his potential when he exploded onto the scene. Even TWINE, which is still very good, is a big step down from TND. I 100% agree with everything you say here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted September 19, 2017 Author Share Posted September 19, 2017 9 minutes ago, Damien F said: Yup, CR is great. Closest score in the 21st century that matched his 90s high streak. Parts of Sherlock are fantastic too. But his output since TND is still disappointing compared to his potential when he exploded onto the scene. Even TWINE, which is still very good, is a big step down from TND. One of the reasons I love John Barry's Bond scores is that he was so consisently good throughout the decades. His quality remained the same even when his composing style changed. When Arnold changed his style, his quality dropped. I don't know David Arnold well enough to comment one way or another, but I'll take your word for it. By the way, I never realized Tomorrow Never Dies was so high up there! Would you say this is DA'S best Bond score? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien F 1,742 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 1 minute ago, Josh500 said: I don't know David Arnold well enough to comment one war or another, but I'll take your word for it. By the way, I never realized Tomorrow Never Dies was so high up there! Would you say this is DA'S best Bond score? Absolutely. It's one of the best DA score period. Josh500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Not Mr. Big and James 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted September 19, 2017 Author Share Posted September 19, 2017 1 minute ago, Damien F said: Absolutely. It's one of the best DA score period. Hard to imagine it's better than CR! I gotta get ahold of this one of these days.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, Josh500 said: By the way, I never realized Tomorrow Never Dies was so high up there! Would you say this is DA'S best Bond score? Easily without a single doubt whatsoever. Its basically tied with ID4 for me as DA's best score Disco Stu and Josh500 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien F 1,742 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 1 minute ago, Josh500 said: Hard to imagine it's better than CR! I gotta get ahold of this one of these days.... Make sure to get the 2CD version. The OST is missing a huge portion of the film and some of the best cues Josh500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 There is no 2CD version of Tomorrow Never Dies, Damien. The expanded release is still 1CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien F 1,742 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, Jay said: There is no 2CD version of Tomorrow Never Dies, Damien. The expanded release is still 1CD. Ah, I remember now. Thanks TND was the very first OST I bought all the way back in 1997. Still have it. Still clearly remember trying to explain to a friend that the 'Hamburg Break In' track is the "background music" that plays during the scene where Bond breaks into Carver's Hamburg building and isn't actually a song! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 It irks me when people refer to film cues as songs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,519 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Top 5 David Arnold: 1. STARGATE 2. LAST OF THE DOGMEN 3. INDEPENDENCE DAY 4. GODZILLA 5. SHAFT Honourable mentions to THE MUSKETEER, TOMORROW NEVER DIES, THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH and THE YOUNG AMERICANS. He used to feature in my Top 10, but not so much anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 8 minutes ago, Jay said: It irks me when people refer to film cues as songs Ask them if they remember the lyrics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 21 minutes ago, Jay said: Easily without a single doubt whatsoever. Its basically tied with ID4 for me as DA's best score I agree with Jay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mrbellamy 6,291 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Williams, Horner, and Silvestri are the ones who I have the most sentimental attachment to and it would be kinda disingenuous of me to leave them out of any top 5. Not that I don't still just plain love listening to them, though Williams is the only one whose post-2000 music consistently keeps my interest, almost without exception. The other two spots would probably fluctuate between Morricone, Goldsmith, Shore, Elfman, and Thomas Newman. Been more into Goldsmith and Newman lately. Usual suspects. I think these are pretty much the guys who have inspired a complete obsession at some point with me. Obviously a lot of love for others but not quite to that point of listening and re-listening and re-re-listening to them exclusively for days, going through their career etc. Josh500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,552 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Right now? Pretty much the same as it's been, for the last 45 years: 1. John Williams 2. Jerry Goldsmith ...er...that's about it, really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 What's wrong with Horner, Richard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,552 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Nothing, Jay, nothing at all. In fact if I had a #3, it'd be him. I also love, Barry, JNH, Arnold, Hermann, Rosza, Steiner, Bernstein (both of 'em!), Newman, T., Tiompkin, Martinez, Elfman, and a host of others. The two at the top, however, have been, and always shall be, the music that I return to, no matter what. Their's is the music (not just film music, but any music) that means the most to me, and that's why I separated them. Their's is soul music, in a way that the rest, no matter how good, cannot be. It's music of my formative years, and it has shaped my life. I hope that that explains things a little? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Yep! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 1. John Williams 2. Jerry Goldsmith 3. James Horner 4. John Powell Can't think of a definite fifth choice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corellian2019 386 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Wow, no love for Kamen? I'd say Elliot Goldenthal John Williams Vangelis Michael Kamen James Horner James 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 1 - John Williams 2 - Jerry Goldsmith 3 - Elliot Goldenthal 4 - Franz Waxman 5 - Bernard Herrmann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Arnold's Narnia score is pretty good. Unfortunately he takes so few film scoring assignments these days. In some alternate universe he's a dedicated film composer and I own his entire collection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 4 hours ago, Damien F said: If Arnold had continued his career the way he started with Stargate, ID4 and TND, he would have been in my 5 for sure. I have a soft spot for his score from The Musketeer as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 2 hours ago, Richard said: Right now? Pretty much the same as it's been, for the last 45 years: 1. John Williams 2. Jerry Goldsmith ...er...that's about it, really Nothing compares! I would consider them to be the two best film composers of all time. Nobody else has shown that much musical sophistication, diversity, emotion, variety of instrumentation, transgression and connection of different genres, experiments, stylistic sovereignty and recognition value. All of these things are the reason why they both are my two favourite composers. And I'm not talking about movie composers, that ghetto. I'm talking about Mozart, I'm talking about Beethoven, I'm talking about Schubert. That's what I'm talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryant Burnette 654 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 #1 -- John Williams Nobody else is close enough to be ranked #2, quite frankly. So pick and choose among Goldsmith, Herrmann, Barry, and Shore and that'd be my 2-5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 6 minutes ago, Bryant Burnette said: #1 -- John Williams Nobody else is close enough to be ranked #2, quite frankly. So pick and choose among Goldsmith, Herrmann, Barry, and Shore and that'd be my 2-5. All very classical, sophisticated composers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted September 20, 2017 Author Share Posted September 20, 2017 6 hours ago, Brundlefly said: Nothing compares! I would consider them to be the two best film composers of all time. Nobody else has shown that much musical sophistication, diversity, emotion, variety of instrumentation, transgression and connection of different genres, experiments, stylistic sovereignty and recognition value. All of these things are the reason why they both are my two favourite composers. And I'm not talking about movie composers, that ghetto. I'm talking about Mozart, I'm talking about Beethoven, I'm talking about Schubert. That's what I'm talking about. I agree, although I wouldn't exactly compare Mozart and Beethoven with John Williams and Jerry Goldsmith! 😂 That's really comparing apples and oranges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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