Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Spoilers! mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 My expectations are spoiled but hardly spoilers And 600M by Jan. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,553 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 48 minutes ago, JoeinAR said: I expected him to be a man of Duty like Ben Kenobi. "Man of duty"? By the time ANH comes along, Ben is a washed-up old fart, living in some mountain shack, wearing 30 year-old robes. He can't even remember playing ride along with a fucking robot. That's not man of duty, that's man of dementia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 By the time Star Wars (none of this anh shit) came along Ben Kenobi was a man wrapped in mystery. A man of keen awareness. A man whose words were carefully chosen. He never owned those droids. Like Vader you under estimate this great Star Wars character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Correct. Ben said he never remembered "owning a droid before." He said nothing about having adventures with them in his youth, as if he would remember that this R2 unit was the same unit that belonged to Padme and Anakin a lifetime earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,950 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Its a continuity error, nevertheless. It goes to show that, during the production of the original Star Wars, Lucas had no idea he'd go back to this backstory, much less include the droids in it. Same goes for uncle Owen not recgonising either of the two droids. Its not a fault of the original Star Wars. Its because of the prequels! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 No its not. Ben is very specific in his word choice. As for uncle owen who cares Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Ben is very specific in his word choice - and he's also a known liar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 The Jedi were masters of deception! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,722 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Fading Fast: “Last Jedi” Knocked to 3rd Place in 3rd Week, Makes Half as Much as Horror Thriller’s 4th Installment ‘Star Wars: The Last Jedi’ Struggling to Second-Place Opening in China Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted January 6, 2018 Author Share Posted January 6, 2018 I don’t see this film hitting the predicted 700-800 domestic they were predicting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 It will finish above 600 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 640 is the current prediction. 5th biggest movie in American history (unadjusted for inflation) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Maybe this really will be The Final Jedi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 43 minutes ago, Bilbo said: 640 is the current prediction. 5th biggest movie in American history (unadjusted for inflation) Yeah, a huge flop LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Just now, Stefancos said: Yeah, a huge flop LOL. A flop of yuge and bigly proportions. Disney will be doubting Rian Johnson and his new trilogy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Disney is no doubt happy with TLJ box office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Would you like to discuss it with the Hutts? I'm sure they can settle this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,950 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 18 hours ago, someonefun124 said: Disney is no doubt happy with TLJ box office. Happy, sure. But I do believe they were expecting more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted January 9, 2018 Author Share Posted January 9, 2018 I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,553 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 That's because The Mouse is (ahem excuse my Latin) a bunch of greedy, avaricious cunts, who think of nothing but profits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 I think that’s French Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 You said this was French roast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyarcher 350 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 I'm pretty sure they're fine with its box office. They're probably gonna approach Episode IX a bit differently now though, methinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 How so? What would be the secret recipe to quadruple grosses? (the mouse probably wonders too) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 A unique visual experience such as Avatar in 2009. To date nothing is even close in overall grosses. If the Avengers gets great notices several weeks before its release the mythical 300 mill will be threatened on opening weekend in the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 A unique visual experience.... courtesy of JJ Abrams? Hmmm.... Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 He doesn't look like a blood, sweat and tears guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyarcher 350 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 17 minutes ago, publicist said: How so? What would be the secret recipe to quadruple grosses? (the mouse probably wonders too) They'll go back to trying to please audiences more or something like that. With J.J. returning they're certainly prepared. Wouldn't surprise me at all if IX outgrosses TLJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 They could quadruple grosses by bringing back Hayden, Ewan, Natalie, Ian and of course Ahmed. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 A Jar Jar spin-off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,553 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 1 hour ago, publicist said: He doesn't look like a blood, sweat and tears guy. Pub, you make so very happy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Padme should get her own spin-off movie about the final week before she died, and how she was terrorised by a malicious supernatural force that inevitably kills her in the end, indirectly through Anakin. There was more going on in her head than Lucas was letting on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 8 hours ago, Fancyarcher said: They'll go back to trying to please audiences more or something like that. Where do I know this fault from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyarcher 350 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 25 minutes ago, Brundlefly said: Where do I know this fault from? Well it is a lot of modern Hollywood in a nutshell. "Don't worry, will make it more audience friendly for the masses next time!" Proceeds to screw things up again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 They'll go back to something more crowd-pleasing for IX, but not because of fan reaction to VIII. It's because they hired JJ Abrams, and because the movie is set to wrap up all the storylines of the trilogy. I'm sure the people on Twitter loudly complaining about things they don't like about TLJ will consider this a reaction to their complaints, but Abrams was hired and the Ep IX story was broken before well before TLJ was released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,950 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 23 minutes ago, mstrox said: Abrams was hired and the Ep IX story was broken before well before TLJ was released. Was it? Anyway, besides JJ's tendencies, its become something of a fashion for the third episode of a trilogy to be strongly bound to the first one: Return of the Jedi did it; The Dark Knight Rises did it. Makes it feel like the trilogy has gone a full circle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 They supposedly didn't make any changes to TLJ to possibly fix some issues they will have to deal with in IX such as Fisher's death. Since she's not going to appear in IX, I guess they're going to have to include something about it in the opening crawl. I didn't expect Rian to change his movie to make Fisher's death work in the overall story but it could have made easier to deal with in XI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 This isn't how it's supposed to be! J.J.! Finish her off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 19 minutes ago, Chen G. said: Was it? Anyway, besides JJ's tendencies, its become something of a fashion for the third episode of a trilogy to be strongly bound to the first one: Return of the Jedi did it; The Dark Knight Rises did it. Makes it feel like the trilogy has gone a full circle. https://makingstarwars.net/2017/12/jj-abrams-pitched-star-wars-episode-ix-bob-iger-today/ Bob Iger mentioned at a press conference that Abrams was pitching the full story on 12/15/17 (I guess he could have taken the early complaints from the first day of release and called a massive audible, but that's unlikely). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,950 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Yeah, but that's just a story outline. You only truly have a grasp on the story when you have a first draft of an actual screenplay, with all of the planting-and-payoff mechanisms in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 I thought they would have been working on revising the story ASAP after Fisher's death considering IX was supposed to be her film. They still have 5 months yet before they start filming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,950 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 We'll see. I don't have high hopes for this one. I like JJ Abrams but he's done nothing that I'd consider masterful in any way. And third entries in a trilogy are very, very tricky! And that's without all the complexity of changing directors, the passing of a major cast member and the way Rian Johnson chose to end his film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 They've been working nonstop on the story - Abrams probably started from scratch when hired - but it's not like he'd be in a vacuum. He, and Kennedy, and the Lucasfilm story group would all be working on it. Pitching to the brass at Disney meant he was far down the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Chen G. said: Anyway, besides JJ's tendencies, its become something of a fashion for the third episode of a trilogy to be strongly bound to the first one: Return of the Jedi did it; The Dark Knight Rises did it. Makes it feel like the trilogy has gone a full circle. The Dark Knight Rises Back to the Future Part III The Last Crusade Jurassic Park III Return of the Jedi All these trilogies have exceptionally dark second entries and the third one comes somehow back to the formula of the first one. Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,950 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Yes, great examples. It should be said, more often than not, this formula can ring a bit false. When I watch Return of the Jedi, for instance, I certainly feel like that: "oh, you had to have a third installment but you have no idea what to do so you're throwing these elements from the first film at us again. Great." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 It's because a two films is in many cases the perfect number where it should stop. Fans liked the first film, so you give them a second one which is a bit different. The third film has usually some signs of fatigue and a lack of ideas. There are many examples of films that work well as duos. The Godfather + The Godfather Part II Jurassic Park + The Lost World Gremlins + Gremlins 2 Home Alone + Home Alone 2 Terminator + Terminator 2 28 Days Later + 28 Weeks Later Kill Bill Vol. 1 + Kill Bill Vol. 2 Trainspotting + T2 Trainspotting Blade Runner + Blade Runner 2049 Batman + Batman Returns None of these examples would have/has taken benefit from a third film. Chen G. and John 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Batman + Batman Returns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 8 hours ago, Philippe Roaché said: Batman + Batman Returns Fuck, how could I forget one of the best examples! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,950 Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 Yes, certain stories just seem to have an enduring nature, and lend themselves to a trilogy, a hexalogy or more whereas others exhaust themselves very early. I think the distinction lies in how much they are of the mythic as opposed to the episodic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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