indyhollyh2 0 Posted May 14, 2003 Share Posted May 14, 2003 Man. I love that song. Everytime I hear it (from empire strikes back) i go nuts. For some reason, that is the greatest song of all time to me. Weird, but its fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 14, 2003 Share Posted May 14, 2003 What kinda question is that?It's a brilliant piece, one of Willians stand out cues from one of Williams stand out scores....ever.It's not a song, btw.Stefancos- who loves it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpigeon 3 Posted May 14, 2003 Share Posted May 14, 2003 I agree with Steef. The Asteroid Field is incredible!Ted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnus 0 Posted May 14, 2003 Share Posted May 14, 2003 Agrees too. it's a great piece Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrScratch 294 Posted May 14, 2003 Share Posted May 14, 2003 One of JWs greatest action cues, and he's written a lot of great ones. No recording of it has even come close to the Original Film Version.Jeff - Who also hates it when people refer to score tracks/cues as "songs". The Asteroid Field! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted May 14, 2003 Share Posted May 14, 2003 Yeah, it's a great cue. Gerhardt's recording of it is particularly amazing.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrScratch 294 Posted May 14, 2003 Share Posted May 14, 2003 I think a more appropriate question would be, "am i the only one that likes 'Attack Position'?" I love this cue, when Han flies directly at the Star Destroyer but then hides behind it. Its never been performed outside of the movie (to my knowledge) and is just as exciting as the Asteroid Field, but sadly much shorter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsawruk 0 Posted May 14, 2003 Share Posted May 14, 2003 "The Asteroid Field" is my favorite JW track of all time, and it works (for me anyway) because of the great orchestration and harmonic progression. Be sure to check out my transcription of its theme on my website http://themes.jw-music.net/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted May 14, 2003 Share Posted May 14, 2003 its great stuff.and a wonderful song and the Meco version is awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,267 Posted May 14, 2003 Share Posted May 14, 2003 Williams stated in an interview that this is one of the tracks that stand out on his memory from the original trilogy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumpeteer 302 Posted May 14, 2003 Share Posted May 14, 2003 Jeff - Who also hates it when people refer to score tracks/cues as "songs". This Jeff hates it, too, especially when they say it all the time on starwars.com when describing cues like "Binary Sunset" or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UCFKevin 0 Posted May 14, 2003 Share Posted May 14, 2003 I think it goes without saying that we all love that piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted May 14, 2003 Share Posted May 14, 2003 Who also hates it when people refer to score tracks/cues as "songs".Yeah, that's a pet peeve of mine.I love the Asteroid Field too, including the concert version.Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scissorhands 16 Posted May 14, 2003 Share Posted May 14, 2003 I do hate the term "song" too. IMO, "Somewhere in my memory" and other HA songs are not even songs.And Asteroid Field was my favorite SW cue (when my only SW CD was the Varujan Kojian one) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HPFAN 1 Posted May 15, 2003 Share Posted May 15, 2003 I think its great too and whats wrong with saying song? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsawruk 0 Posted May 15, 2003 Share Posted May 15, 2003 A song contains words. Therefore, any piece of music cannot be called a song. Now not all pieces of music can be called songs either, but that is much more tolerable than calling an instrumental piece a "song". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted May 15, 2003 Share Posted May 15, 2003 Yes, I don't see how people can do it since "song" so blatantly implies "sing." But I think this dead horse has been beaten enough.Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin 2 Posted May 15, 2003 Share Posted May 15, 2003 This thread is as useless as "Am I the only one who likes John Williams?"Justin -Wondering if there is a soul here to DOESN'T like Asteroid Field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Longbottom 0 Posted May 15, 2003 Share Posted May 15, 2003 Of the fans who own ESB soundtrack or any compilation containing this track (or are familiar with the movie), there may really be very few who don't like it. But among circa 500 users registered here, I wouldn't be surprised to learn some don't know what in Universe is the thing we are talking about here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,241 Posted May 15, 2003 Share Posted May 15, 2003 I love this cue, when Han flies directly at the Star Destroyer but then hides behind it.I love all those short bits of space action music, particularly the one in the first score track on disc #2 of the SE release.Regarding The Asteroid Field, of course it's great and one of his best. I have to say though that I enjoy the Skywalker Symphony recording just as much as the OST. It's not as harsh, but more balanced. Of course, it's missing the great introduction...Marian - who got a shock when he saw Courage's Trek fanfare credited as a song in the Nemesis end credits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted May 15, 2003 Share Posted May 15, 2003 I love that song too. Yeah, it's a great cue. Gerhardt's recording of it is particularly amazing. First time I heard TESB was his version, that track was like the best thing I heard up till then.I think a more appropriate question would be, "am i the only one that likes 'Attack Position'?"No, that is a really exciting cue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 15, 2003 Share Posted May 15, 2003 I'd take "Rescue from Cloud City/Hyperspace" over "Asteroid Field" anyday. "Asteroid Field" is a fine piece of music, don't get me wrong, but it's just not as good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HPFAN 1 Posted May 15, 2003 Share Posted May 15, 2003 A song contains words. Therefore, any piece of music cannot be called a song. Now not all pieces of music can be called songs either, but that is much more tolerable than calling an instrumental piece a "song". What should you call it then?Im such a newbie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzel 0 Posted May 15, 2003 Share Posted May 15, 2003 Williams stated in an interview that this is one of the tracks that stand out on his memory from the original trilogy.I wouldn't doubt he said that. Asteroid Field is probably the most memorable action piece of all SW music for me. In fact, it was the only cue I was able to hum along with, note for note, from beginning to end, when I bought my TESB SE score on CD a few years ago -- and I hadn't heard it since my original soundtrack on cassette wore down way back in the early '80s! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted May 16, 2003 Share Posted May 16, 2003 A song contains words. Therefore, any piece of music cannot be called a song. Now not all pieces of music can be called songs either, but that is much more tolerable than calling an instrumental piece a "song". What should you call it then?Im such a newbie."Track" or "cue".Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted May 16, 2003 Share Posted May 16, 2003 Or piece. Or composition. But that might be pushing it. Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,365 Posted May 16, 2003 Share Posted May 16, 2003 Hmmm, question. Don't these soundtrack editors sometimes use different cues to make one track? Is it not so that a cue can be a part of a complete track?Think about this and correct me if I'm bogus. I too might be pushing it bit far.----------------Alex Cremers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CYPHER 1 Posted May 16, 2003 Share Posted May 16, 2003 I think a more appropriate question would be, "am I the only one that likes 'Attack Position'?" YES!!! This is one of my favourite cues in all of the Star Wars movies. To me, it is the very definition of "thrilling". My only regret is that it could have been a little longer, but it still knocks my socks off ever time. CYPHER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin 2 Posted May 16, 2003 Share Posted May 16, 2003 Mynock Cave. I rememeber buying the 4 disc anthology for that cue and not finding it. It's one of the best on ESB. Justin -Who loves the brassy ending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,365 Posted May 16, 2003 Share Posted May 16, 2003 Hmmm, question. Don't these soundtrack editors sometimes use different cues to make one track? Is it not so that a cue can be a part of a complete track? Think about this and correct me if I'm bogus. I too might be pushing it bit far. Question rephrased for a clearer view: Don't these soundtrack editors sometimes use different cues to make one cue? Although I think "cue" is the appropriate word, it might be more context- related then the word "track".----------------Alex Cremers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,807 Posted May 16, 2003 Share Posted May 16, 2003 Why didn't Geharlt (SP?) used the Imperial theme in the beginning of his Asteriod Field? That's one of the Best parts of the cue/track or whatever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 16, 2003 Share Posted May 16, 2003 Because Williams wrote a special concert version for it, which is the only one EVER used for re-recordings and concert performances.Stefancos- who also partial to the Utah Symphony Orchestra version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,807 Posted May 16, 2003 Share Posted May 16, 2003 OH. I didn't knew that they could only arrange Williams concert works.now, why doesnt Williams released a boxset callled SW concert works? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 16, 2003 Share Posted May 16, 2003 Luke, they could use more then just the concert works.Possible Gerhardt preferred it, or Williams did.now, why doesnt Williams released a boxset callled SW concert works?Hmmm...he's done plenty of recording os his SW concert themes.Stefancos- who considers the Gerhardt recordings definitive Star wars re-recordings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted May 16, 2003 Share Posted May 16, 2003 Stefancos- who also partial to the Utah Symphony Orchestra version.I used this track from the LP to set up the recording levels on my CD-R recorder. This recording has a bass drum the size of Utah in it. It's also a thrilling performance.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahler3 478 Posted May 16, 2003 Share Posted May 16, 2003 Stefancos- who considers the Gerhardt recordings definitive Star wars re-recordings Absolutely! Only comment I would make is 'Final Battle' is too slow IMO, lacking the percussive 'Holst's Mars' accent at the finale. I know others disagree.-Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlesk 0 Posted May 19, 2003 Share Posted May 19, 2003 I love Asteroid Field, I have studied many times. I only regret that in the concert version, which is played more frequently, Williams removed the first part, which I miss, not only for the great Vader Theme, but for that absoletely amazing rapid, violent, frantic, virtusistic strings that separate the first and second expositions of Vader's theme. It is just a 'transitional' passage, but man, how Williams can come up with these? Did he removed it not only because it has another theme (Vader's) but also because is too difficult to play? I wonder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,276 Posted May 19, 2003 Share Posted May 19, 2003 The Asteroid Field is one of those great tracks. And it works so well in the movie, specially when the fanfare comes up and the TIE Fighter crashes into the asteroid.Romaõ, who also prefers the Gerhart version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted May 19, 2003 Share Posted May 19, 2003 Did he removed it not only because it has another theme (Vader's) but also because is too difficult to play? I wonder.My guess would be that "The Imperial March" is played in the concert suite and he didn't want it to appear again in the suite.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlesk 0 Posted May 19, 2003 Share Posted May 19, 2003 Did he removed it not only because it has another theme (Vader's) but also because is too difficult to play? I wonder.My guess would be that "The Imperial March" is played in the concert suite and he didn't want it to appear again in the suite.Neil I love that transition. I want to get my hands on the score. I want to see the orchestra going nuts playing it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted May 20, 2003 Share Posted May 20, 2003 I don't like the concert version that much(the intro and ending are kinda lame and the tempo not quite right on any version),the OST cue is much better.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,365 Posted May 20, 2003 Share Posted May 20, 2003 Marian wrote:I have to say though that I enjoy the Skywalker Symphony recording just as much as the OST. It's not as harsh, but more balanced. Of course, it's missing the great introduction... Some people don't like the Skywalker Symphony recording because of its clinic performance and sterile sound and therefore lacking in emotion and shere excitement. I'm not one of those people. John Williams and George Lucas should return to the same concept and do: THE STAR WARS TRILOGY PART TWO. Plain and simple as that.PS. Sounds like a new topic. Star Wars Trilogy part Two .Which themes would you choose? Or am I too late?----------------Alex Cremers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,276 Posted May 20, 2003 Share Posted May 20, 2003 Duel of FatesAnakin's ThemeFlag ParadeJar Jar's ThemeTrade Federation Concert SuiteQui-Gon's FuneralAcross the StarsZam the Assassin (a concert suite, shorter, comprising the first 5 minutes and so of the track, kinda like The Forest Battle from ROTJ)Anakin's ConfessionThe ArenaConfrontation with Count Dooku and Finale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genkiguy 0 Posted May 24, 2003 Share Posted May 24, 2003 so far, and just off the top of my head....Duel Of The Fates (Orchestral version)Flag Parade (concert suite)Quin Gon's ThemeAnakin's Theme,yaeh i'd love a concertised Chase through C tooAccross the Stars...with teh end credits ending with Anakin's and Darths Theme, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,276 Posted May 24, 2003 Share Posted May 24, 2003 How could I forget Qui-Gon's theme? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector J. Guzman 1 Posted May 24, 2003 Share Posted May 24, 2003 am i the only one who likes "asteroid field"Nope. Verdi "Triumphal March" from AidaThe Boston Pops OrchestraJohn Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 Succinctly said. Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted May 26, 2003 Share Posted May 26, 2003 1-The Force Theme2-Han Solo and the Princess3-Gui-Gon's Theme4-DotF instrumental5-The Trade Federation March4-The Battle of Naboo( re-recording of the music as originally written for the movie)5-AotC Finale and End Credits(Original Version Finale)6-Darth Sidious Themenew recordings of Across the Stars and Anakin's theme would sound exactly the same as the OST.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue_Leader 2 Posted May 26, 2003 Share Posted May 26, 2003 ONLY ONE WHO LIKES IT!?!?!?! THE HELL???That is like one of John Williams favorite cues of all time. BTW was there any music to the asteroid chase in AOTC??I thought that didn't have any music (at least a large portion of it) based on my memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,365 Posted May 26, 2003 Share Posted May 26, 2003 I only remember Boba saying something like: Get him, dad!!!. I thought that was kinda funny.----------------Alex Cremers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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