DangerMotif 1,038 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 19 minutes ago, Yavar Moradi said: The fact that it’s not from (sometimes quite scratchy sounding) mono acetate discs? I take it you don’t even have the FSM or you wouldn’t ask. They literally apologize for the sound quality on their product page! (I’m still grateful to have the original performance under Herrmann’s baton release, to be sure.) https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/cds/detail.cfm/CDID/281/On-Dangerous-Ground/ Then buy the FSM and see what you think. Have you… not heard any previous albums of William Stromberg conducting Herrmann? He conducts Herrmann better than Herrmann did. (And WAY better than Herrmann did when he re-recorded his own material, IMO.) Mysterious Island is my #1 favorite Herrmann score that I grew up with in the movie since childhood, so I know all the original performance nuances. But the Tribute Film Classics recording under Stromberg’s baton is a candidate for greatest re-recording of all time, and I prefer it even performance-wise (not just sound quality-wise) to the film. Yavar Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steffromuk 387 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 15 minutes ago, Yavar Moradi said: It’s got much more variety than the average Herrmann score. If you find it too repetitive you must not like much Herrmann at all (at least in complete form). Yavar I have the Stromberg version of the Mysterious Island and I have to admit it's one of Hermann's score I have a harder time to listen in its entirety. It is indeed more repetitive than many of his other scores. But I agree with you. I actually much prefer the re-recordings of most Hermann's scores. He definitely wasn't the best conductor of his own work. and the recording and mixing quality of a lot of the originals are pretty poor in my opinion. Some of my favorite re-recordings are Mc Neely's The Day the Earth Stood Still, John Dubney's The 7th Voyage of Sinbad and Bruce Broughton's Jason and the Argonauts Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 The Egyptian and Jane Eyre are also absolutely terrific re-recordings, the best presentation, in my view, of two of my favorite Herrmann scores. I wish Stromberg would also re-record Journey to the Centre of the Earth Steffromuk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steffromuk 387 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, Romão said: I wish Stromberg would also re-record Journey to the Centre of the Earth I was just going to say that! Gosh, I'd love that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,091 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Yavar Moradi said: It’s got much more variety than the average Herrmann score. If you find it too repetitive you must not like much Herrmann at all (at least in complete form). Yavar It depends on the kind of repetition. When each short phrase is played twice, I quickly lose interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,603 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Jurassic Shark said: It depends on the kind of repetition. When each short phrase is played twice, I quickly lose interest. The only Herrmann score that tries my patience is The Seventh Voyage of Sinbad. For that one his main idea is usually played FIVE times in a row (descending each time), and that’s about two times too many for me to handle. 😂 I seriously don’t know why so many people love that score because the main theme is so grating and wears out its welcome for me right away. It’s the only time where I heard Herrmann’s repetition and reacted with a mental, “WHAT WAS HE THINKING?!” Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,091 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, Yavar Moradi said: For that one his main idea is usually played FIVE times in a row (descending each time) At least it's not verbatim repetitions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,603 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 Well I’m not sure which “verbatim repetitions” are particularly offensive to you in Mysterious Island, but I don’t notice anything remotely out of the ordinary for Herrmann’s usual style. And in the film it works like gangbusters. Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerMotif 1,038 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 @Yavar MoradiGotta start a Herrmann podcast😃 Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,603 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 I’d love to! It’ll have to wait in line after the Rozsa and Poledouris podcasts I’d tackle first, after I finish The Goldsmith Odyssey in 20 years 😂 Yavar DangerMotif 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerMotif 1,038 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 8 minutes ago, Yavar Moradi said: I’d love to! It’ll have to wait in line after the Rozsa and Poledouris podcasts I’d tackle first, after I finish The Goldsmith Odyssey in 20 years 😂 Yavar Any Rozsa or poledouris recommendations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,091 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 23 minutes ago, Yavar Moradi said: Well I’m not sure which “verbatim repetitions” are particularly offensive to you in Mysterious Island, but I don’t notice anything remotely out of the ordinary for Herrmann’s usual style. And in the film it works like gangbusters. Yavar aabbccdd... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,374 Posted February 28, 2023 Author Share Posted February 28, 2023 20 minutes ago, DangerMotif said: Any Rozsa or poledouris recommendations? karelm and Raiders of the SoundtrArk 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Marian Schedenig 8,211 Posted February 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2023 BrotherSound, GerateWohl and Holko 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,742 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 For Rozsa: For Poledouris: GerateWohl and BrotherSound 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 Free Willy Main Title But as Jay suggest Starship Troopers is Poledouris finest score. You may as well try Robocop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,091 Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 The Hunt for Red October has the best track. 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,373 Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 All this is great and essential in my view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,915 Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 On 28/02/2023 at 9:54 AM, Yavar Moradi said: The only Herrmann score that tries my patience is The Seventh Voyage of Sinbad. For that one his main idea is usually played FIVE times in a row (descending each time), and that’s about two times too many for me to handle. 😂 I seriously don’t know why so many people love that score because the main theme is so grating and wears out its welcome for me right away. It’s the only time where I heard Herrmann’s repetition and reacted with a mental, “WHAT WAS HE THINKING?!” Yavar Didn't he reuse the famous skeleton fight from a concert piece? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,603 Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 I hadn’t heard that. Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,915 Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 On 28/02/2023 at 1:53 PM, Jay said: Oh I wish others had heard the absolutely fantastic Basil Poledouris tribute concert last year. Special guests included his family (Zoe Poledouris Roche, Alexis Poledouris, Bobbie Poledouris, Angel Roché Jr.), screenwriter/director John Milius, agent: Richard Kraft, Doreen Ringer Ross, Music historian: Jon Burlingame, Robert Kraft, Composers/collaborators: John Debney, John Frizzell, John Ottman, Todd Haberman, Lolita Ritmanis, Curtis Roush, Tom Villano, Dan Carlin, Charles Bernstein. Plus special appearances from Francis Ford Coppola, Peter Weller, etc. I'm sure I'm forgetting something. The orchestra played for three hours all his greatest hits. Klendathu Drop, Conan suite, RoboCop, everything. 1977 and Yavar Moradi 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,211 Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 But the best track from Starship Troopers is this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,742 Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 I really love the music for the attack at the “radio shack,” but yeah, Asteroid Grazing is the best non-action cue for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,374 Posted March 2, 2023 Author Share Posted March 2, 2023 Oh I dunno, Carmen's Shuttle Ride is probably my favorite non-action cue of the score That's one where it's kind of shocking he couldn't fit it into the OST somewhere 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,287 Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 2 hours ago, Jay said: Oh I dunno, Carmen's Shuttle Ride is probably my favorite non-action cue of the score That's one where it's kind of shocking he couldn't fit it into the OST somewhere It was middle of the 30 minute Varese era and Starship Troopers allegedly sent them close to bankruptcy. We were lucky to get it released at all but I’m sure there were some tough choices when assembling the original album! Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,091 Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 15 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said: But the best track from Starship Troopers is this: The start of this track sounds like it was temp tracked with BTTF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,374 Posted March 2, 2023 Author Share Posted March 2, 2023 10 minutes ago, Tom Guernsey said: It was middle of the 30 minute Varese era and Starship Troopers allegedly sent them close to bankruptcy. We were lucky to get it released at all but I’m sure there were some tough choices when assembling the original album! I know - I'm surprised it wasn't an obvious candidate to be a album-worthy highlight EVEN WHEN limited to 30 minutes. I'd include it in a 10 minute suite! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, Jay said: I'd include it in a 10 minute suite! As would I. A fantastic cue indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,374 Posted March 2, 2023 Author Share Posted March 2, 2023 It's the balance to all the minor-key dakrness most of the rest of the score contains Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archive Collection 214 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Covers, track-list and first track: First track available on Kickstarter Tom Guernsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,374 Posted March 10, 2023 Author Share Posted March 10, 2023 Pretty sure that track download is meant to only be for people who supported the kickstarter Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archive Collection 214 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 2 hours ago, Jay said: Pretty sure that track download is meant to only be for people who supported the kickstarter I've removed the link, although it is still accessible to the public on Kickstarter - even if you didn't support the campaign! Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,374 Posted March 11, 2023 Author Share Posted March 11, 2023 Oh, never mind then! Archive Collection 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,211 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Final shipping address change deadline warning went out via mail, so this should start shipping soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,374 Posted April 16, 2023 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2023 This will be available to order Monday night http://www.intrada.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=9046 Also Roger provided an update on the kickstarter fulfillments: Is this going to be available on Tuesday for EVERYone, or just those who funded it? We will take orders Tuesday for everyone but Kickstarter orders will be fulfilled first. That should take about a week. Tom Guernsey, GerateWohl and crocodile 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,287 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 16 minutes ago, Jay said: This will be available to order Monday night http://www.intrada.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=9046 Also Roger provided an update on the kickstarter fulfillments: Is this going to be available on Tuesday for EVERYone, or just those who funded it? We will take orders Tuesday for everyone but Kickstarter orders will be fulfilled first. That should take about a week. Awesome. Can’t wait to hear it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 Yay! Couldn’t contribute but will definitely order. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 The sound clips for this are fantastic. Karol Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,603 Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 Is this accessible to the public or only friends of Bill Stromberg? https://www.facebook.com/589478174/posts/pfbid02HbVeHkUGiM5KCe4yEgzHBMeVMK9psm23oCNCXBjbdJuz6cVa6ckYTEPvx9ycAJr5l/?mibextid=ykz3hl Hoping other folks can hear this awesomeness… Yavar GerateWohl and crocodile 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,374 Posted April 18, 2023 Author Share Posted April 18, 2023 Plays fine for me in incognito mode Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 I haven't got a Facebook account and can still play it in my browser. Karol Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,374 Posted April 18, 2023 Author Share Posted April 18, 2023 Yeah, that's what incognito mode emulates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archive Collection 214 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 The new performances are great, but something has gone wrong in the mixing process, because there are some very noticable phase issues in the recording (at least in the preview) - especially in the ODG tracks. There's a tinny quality to the mids, which is probably related to the mixing process. Not sure what's happened... EDIT: it seems like the ODG tracks are the only ones affected by this issue, and it seems that it mainly effects the strings. Potentially has something to do with how this section has been mixed? Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,374 Posted April 27, 2023 Author Share Posted April 27, 2023 Now available on qobuz in 24/96 https://www.qobuz.com/us-en/album/the-man-who-knew-too-much-on-dangerous-ground-original-motion-picture-soundtracks-william-t-stromberg/s68w2aav3uyeb Tom Guernsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indianagirl 298 Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 So I paid full price when I could of gotten it much cheaper and in a higher format Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,532 Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 Careful with that, didn't it come out that sometimes Intrada fakes these high formats for digital releases? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indianagirl 298 Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 Oh I have no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thx99 1,740 Posted April 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 28, 2023 12 hours ago, Holko said: Careful with that, didn't it come out that sometimes Intrada fakes these high formats for digital releases? Yes, that is true, but not with this release. No signs of 96 kHz upsampling or straight 16-to-24 bit up-quantization. Yavar Moradi, Holko and HanFiredFirst 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indianagirl 298 Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 how would you be able to tell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jurassic Shark 12,091 Posted April 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 28, 2023 He's got a very particular set of skills. thx99, Yavar Moradi and A. A. Ron 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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