A24 4,338 Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 Anyone has it? Is this worth buying?01. The Manuscript [3:33] (* The Pen is Mightier than the Sword)02. The Portuguese Coast [2:14]03. Packet from Dad [0:52]04. Inscription on the Rock [1:00]05. Into the Catecombs [2:36]06. Nazi Stronghold [1:46]07. Papa Jones [2:05]08. "Put Down the Gun!" [1:58]09. Escape in the Truck [0:49]10. The Jones' Tied Up [2:35]11. Blasphemy - Berlin [1:05]12. Death of the Messenger from God [2:21]13. Papa Jones Shot [2:51]14. The Wrong Chalice - Papa Jones is Healed [4:27]15. Flight to Austria [1:24]16. Ransacked House [2:01] (* The Berlin Air Terminal )17.-28. Dedicated to the TV-series Amazing Stories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 The sound ranges from mono to average stereo. I wouldn't pay any money for it.You might be able to persuade some of the members here to send you the clips.If you feel like spending money on a bootleg then by all means buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,338 Posted May 10, 2004 Author Share Posted May 10, 2004 Well, I not buying anything if the sound quality is bad. I've heard this CD can be quite expensive ($38) but the one I've found is pretty cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAfonso 186 Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 The sound quality is quite bad in places, but not so bad that the music itself can't be heard clearly... it just has this muddled aspect to it. But IMHO, that's worth it, because some of those unreleased tracks are really good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,338 Posted May 10, 2004 Author Share Posted May 10, 2004 Hey, I did some searching and found this:It's the same music but a different cover. :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 The sound changes. If you really like the music, get it. I wouldn't listen to the cd often unless I really loved the music, which I do. I need a real version of The Portuguese Coast. But better ones should turn up, now that the DVD is out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,200 Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 That CD is the proof that an expanded official release is desperately needed. Tons of great unreleased music with really bad sound.Marian - who has a CDR. Death and the Maiden (Schubert & Kilar) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 Yeah. Some of the best unreleased Williams is on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 Also note that the pitch is off on this disc. I think it's a bit too fast. And the sound quality is wretched.Also note that it has Amazing Stories on it which is also an awesome score by Williams.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 But your better off with the Varese rerecording of that one. The sound quality alone makes it worth it, adn the performances are great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,338 Posted May 10, 2004 Author Share Posted May 10, 2004 But your better off with the Varese rerecording of that one. The sound quality alone makes it worth it, adn the performances are great.What Varese re-recording? The Joel McNeely one? That's all Herrmann's work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 What Varese re-recording?This Varese re-recording.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,338 Posted May 10, 2004 Author Share Posted May 10, 2004 Holy Moly! I never saw this one! Is...is it good Williams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 Holy Moly! I never saw this one! Is...is it good Williams?"Jonathan Begins to Draw" and "The Landing" are excellent! They make this album an essential purchase.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 Holy Moly! I never saw this one! Is...is it good Williams?"Jonathan Begins to Draw" and "The Landing" are excellent! They make this album an essential purchase.Neileh,right,read my Top 10 Williams tracksK.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 Holy Moly! I never saw this one! Is...is it good Williams? Yes. Yes it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 papa Jones is healed alone is worth having at least a copy of that boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 With the Indy DVD's released and Indy 4 not happening anytime soon if at all,I say the chances of a legit complete release of these scores is almost non-existant..Any cue is worth buying the boot for.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted May 13, 2004 Share Posted May 13, 2004 About the last crusade cues...I got em but the sound 'the pitch' i think, is slowI heard a memeer here has fixxed the pitch with cooledit or another program... is that true, how can i do it?Luke, who has not burned those on CD yet waiting for an oportunity to get the right pitch cues... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted May 15, 2004 Share Posted May 15, 2004 It is a must, as it features many great cues from a great score. But, the sound quality is pretty poor, don't pay, just trade with a friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted May 15, 2004 Share Posted May 15, 2004 But there isnt a fixxed version by elvisjoes or any other one?I heard so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 15, 2004 Share Posted May 15, 2004 There is, but i'm sure not a lot of people have it.My NERYS RECORDS bootleg is made up of these slightly repaired tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted May 15, 2004 Share Posted May 15, 2004 At last you broke the silence.Luke, who did not wanted to say it without the owners' permission, since it could be classified files... Do you know who he did it?Luke, who would like to try... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 15, 2004 Share Posted May 15, 2004 As I understand it the tracks ran 4% to fast and the soundchannels were reversed.If you have a program like Cooledit you should be able to slow the music down by 4 % and correct the soundchannel problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted May 15, 2004 Share Posted May 15, 2004 cool and many thankscould you send me a email or PM with one of those indy fanfares (15 secs long) to have as model? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted May 15, 2004 Share Posted May 15, 2004 should i slow down pitch or time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeejaHalycon 0 Posted May 15, 2004 Share Posted May 15, 2004 Is the rest of the Dunn & Duffy Circus Train cue on that bootleg? I've downloaded it from somewhere, but it doesn't seem to be on there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 15, 2004 Share Posted May 15, 2004 Please remember that there are many versions of this bootleg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris ChrusherComix 46 Posted May 16, 2004 Share Posted May 16, 2004 That CD is a bootleg. I have it (pressed CD that I got in a trade), plus I have the EJ "corrected-pitch" one too, although I didn't care for the corrections... I think the slow tracks work fine until we get a legit one. As Steef said... he has it too, but he re-arranged the tracks for his version. I personally coupled mine with the Amazing Stories Boot.The unreleased TLC music is very good, especially that "Cross Of Coronado" theme in "Portugese Coast." Great cues... I've nominated it as my favorite Williams motif or cue that was used the least. It was used so little that it was almost wasted!And speaking of Amazing Stories, the sound quality is superior on the legit re-recording, but I prefer the Williams-Williams performances on the boot. We need that somewhere, maybe coupled with the other unreleased Williams episode. That would be a treat. Who owns those masters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted May 16, 2004 Share Posted May 16, 2004 Hey Chris,are you back home?K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted May 16, 2004 Share Posted May 16, 2004 I have the EJ "corrected-pitch" one too, although I didn't care for the corrections... I think the slow tracks work fine until we get a legit one.That is ridiculous. Let me get this straight, you prefer the clearly flawed versions???And speaking of Amazing Stories, the sound quality is superior on the legit re-recordingThat's usually the case with boots vs. legit albums.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,338 Posted May 16, 2004 Author Share Posted May 16, 2004 And speaking of Amazing Stories, the sound quality is superior on the legit re-recordingThat's usually the case with boots vs. legit albums.Yes, although I've been spoiled lately. Many of the Williams boots sound friggin' great. (And some even better than their legit ones .) Too bad the Last Crusade is not up to par with most of the other boots. ----------------Alex Cremers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 16, 2004 Share Posted May 16, 2004 Try Goldsmith boots, they sound better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted May 16, 2004 Share Posted May 16, 2004 I have a question about Markus in Iskenderum (the source music). Does it need to be fixxed? It sound normal to me, and in the complete cue analisys it says it was out of every bootleg, and found in other place, so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 16, 2004 Share Posted May 16, 2004 As far as I know it does not need to be fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted May 16, 2004 Share Posted May 16, 2004 thanks I forgot about Der Kroninwhatever parade, it neither does to be fixxed, right?Luke, 50% in fixxing the score so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
überFranz 0 Posted May 16, 2004 Share Posted May 16, 2004 I do think not that this musik needs to be fixed.It sounds perfekt to me, i play it all the time in my house and in my work.I think it's my favorite John Williams piece of musik. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Ware 526 Posted May 16, 2004 Share Posted May 16, 2004 The Iskendurun source and the Der Konigthingy parade are from a different (better) source than all the other unreleased cues, and do not require any correction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted May 16, 2004 Share Posted May 16, 2004 Thanks Seems nobody knows the spelling of the Kronin..... thingy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
überFranz 0 Posted May 16, 2004 Share Posted May 16, 2004 Der Königgrätzer Marsch, Johann Gottfried Piefke: arr. John Williams and Alexander Courage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted May 16, 2004 Share Posted May 16, 2004 well...whatever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted May 16, 2004 Share Posted May 16, 2004 I have a question about Markus in Iskenderum (the source music). Does it need to be fixxed? It sound normal to me, and in the complete cue analisys it says it was out of every bootleg, and found in other place, so... Did he write that? I've been meaning to ask that for a while, never remembered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tharpdevenport 4 Posted May 16, 2004 Share Posted May 16, 2004 I remember seeing on someone's trade list a second edtion of Volume 2 that was listed as having better sound.Don't recall who. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris ChrusherComix 46 Posted May 17, 2004 Share Posted May 17, 2004 Neil: I don't know.... to me a couple of cues sound better slowed down. The 1st track and/or Portugese Coast at least. Just that way for me, I think. Well, KM said he thought the non-corrected ones sounded better to him too I think? And as for Amazing Stories, I love the performances of Williams' conducted originals. The sound quality is excellent on the re-recording, but I still prefer Williams anyday. That is not demeaning the re-recording... anybody that doesn't have it should get it!KM: Yes, I've been back since the 1st of May, but I came down with a sore throat/upper-respitory cold that turned into a HORRID eye infection upon my return so I was a mess. The cold weather here brought it out after having such nice warm weather there. Thankfully, it warmed back up here and I feel much better now. I was just preparing you some CDs earlier today in fact. Morlock as well. Now to send them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,338 Posted May 17, 2004 Author Share Posted May 17, 2004 And as for Amazing Stories, I love the performances of Williams' conducted originals. The sound quality is excellent on the re-recording, but I still prefer Williams anyday. That is not demeaning the re-recording... anybody that doesn't have it should get it!Great! I just ordered it.----------------Alex Cremers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted May 17, 2004 Share Posted May 17, 2004 Neil: I don't know.... to me a couple of cues sound better slowed down. The 1st track and/or Portugese Coast at least. Just that way for me, I think. Well, KM said he thought the non-corrected ones sounded better to him too I think?Er, I think the non-corrected pitch is the one that goes too fast, so the corrected ones would have to be the ones that are slowed down... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted May 17, 2004 Share Posted May 17, 2004 Yeah but he says those two cues sound better if not corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted May 17, 2004 Share Posted May 17, 2004 No he says those cues sound better slow, and thinks that means not corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 Well, I did not slowed down 'The pen in ...' I even compared it to the movie, and the movie was even faster...Maybe i had a mix of wrong/correct cues... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,200 Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 In Spain (as in every country that has the PAL TV system), the movies DO run 4% too fast. I suppose that's why the boot cues are too fast, too.Marian - who gets the US DVDs for music-heavy movies for that reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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