Naïve Old Fart 9,534 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 They are different! I watched him as he reached up, and composed them...with his own dead hand. Hiya, Johnny, it's your uncle Bingo. Time to pay the copyist. But seriously...THROUGH THE FLAMES might be a variation of ROTJ, but they are different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,514 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 17 hours ago, Bellosh said: 5:40... 14 hours ago, Evil-Lyn said: I thought the fanfares at the end of The Return of the Jedi and Through the Flames were different? They are different, but they're the same... To get to Through the Flames from The Return of the Jedi you: Double the speed Lift the 3rd note up a fifth Lower the 4th, 5th and 6th notes down a scale degree. I have a suspicion that the idea behind it was to have the exact same motif in both instances, only Williams decided to shift the notes to make it easier to play for the brass (and make it easier on the ear given the quicker tempo). It's only a theory, though. Has anybody mentioned the Giant Fish motif yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrScratch 294 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 The Fleet Goes Into Hyperspace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 9 hours ago, Richard said: They are different! I watched him as he reached up, and composed them...with his own dead hand. Hiya, Johnny, it's your uncle Bingo. Time to pay the copyist. But seriously...THROUGH THE FLAMES might be a variation of ROTJ, but they are different. Didn't Fred Steiner ghostwrite those cues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, Evil-Lyn said: Didn't Fred Steiner ghostwrite those cues? Nope. Composed by John Williams, orchestrated by Herb Spencer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,896 Posted August 24, 2017 Author Share Posted August 24, 2017 It's believed that Fred Steiner only did "Superstructure Chase", which was mostly just made up of JW's music anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,534 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 12 hours ago, MrScratch said: The Fleet Goes Into Hyperspace. That's a variation on THE THRONE ROOM (unless you mean the end bit ?). MrScratch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Manakin Skywalker 4,896 Posted August 25, 2017 Author Popular Post Share Posted August 25, 2017 13 hours ago, Loert said: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4TAY1QZsUSYeW1EOGQzbmRSOUU/view Loert, Holko and Will 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrScratch 294 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 8 hours ago, Richard said: That's a variation on THE THRONE ROOM (unless you mean the end bit ?). I'm talking about the brass fanfare from that cue that also appears towards the end of "Fight With TIE Fighters". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,534 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Ah, yes! It does sound the same, doesn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,914 Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Star Wars at its best That one second when the falcon desperately faces the star destroyer since hyper drive failed (again). The whole sequence is such a perfect blend of editing, score, sound (the falcon's failed hyper drive), directing, script, and acting. Perfect SW moment. Jay and DarthDementous 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 On 25-8-2017 at 0:59 AM, Manakin Skywalker said: It's believed that Fred Steiner only did "Superstructure Chase", which was mostly just made up of JW's music anyway. For that cue I'd say Williams would have certainly put together a simple sketch referring to earlier manuscripts and offering a couple of musical 'patches', all by himself. How long could it take, two hours? It's not as if he had to rewrite a five minute long action setpiece in the midst of the recording sessions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Jilal, we know that Newman did the Superstructure Chase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 ROTJ was a collaborative effort by Williams, Steiner, Newman and Ross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Overseen by Angela Morley! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 It's not even really a Williams score when you get down to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Thats why the OST is only about 45 minutes long. It's all you need, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 The OST narrows the score down to only Williams music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post filmmusic 1,829 Posted September 2, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted September 2, 2017 Well, not a motif, but a complete theme, but I post it since many posted themes (there is a difference). The one I mentioned in the other thread, in Return of the Jedi. Quote The religioso theme. This could have easily been composed for a biblical film of the 50s-60s by Alfred Newman or someone. Inside the movie, it was a highlight for me. Very dramatic! Not Mr. Big, MaxMovieMan and Cerebral Cortex 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 On 8/22/2017 at 2:18 PM, Jay said: I like the victory fanfare from the end of Jabba's End and Through The Flames I thought it was the same motif for a long time, but it's been pointed out they are different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyarcher 350 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 The Victory Fanfare is definitely among my favorite Star Wars cues. It's very "exciting" to listen to. It's tough though, considering there are so many great ones to choose from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,534 Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 It's not necessarily "obscure", but...I like the "twisted" rendition of ANAKIN'S THEME, as Sebulba attempts to sabotage his pod-racer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James 119 Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Sooooo dramatic. I can feel the pain. hahaha filmmusic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,829 Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 12 minutes ago, James said: Sooooo dramatic. I can feel the pain. hahaha Look 4 posts above you! James 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igger6 894 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 @Richard, can you post the Anakin/Sebulba moment you're talking about? I'm an avid collector of twisted versions of character motifs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 @igger6 I believe this might be what you're looking for: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,534 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 That's nice, Holko, but it's not the one. The piece that I'm thinking about is when Sebulba creeps up to Anakin's pod-racer, on the starting grid, and rips a piece of machinery out of it. The short piece is played by the woodwinds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Really, Anakin's theme is hidden in there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Oh. I really should learn to read one of these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 It's The Emperor's Theme, because everything is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Ah, yes, true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 There's probably a sly reference to the Imperial March in the structure of the harmony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitth'raw'nuorodo 43 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Shmi's theme is my favorite, all the way! Anakin Is Free is one of my favorite tracks from The Phantom Menace. The pan flute solo and everything that follows it is so tender and beautiful! I also like the Death Star theme a lot and wished it had appeared more, both in RotJ and in R1. I also LOVE the Alliance Assembly theme. It deserves more appearances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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