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    Pieter_Boelen got a reaction from Arpy in Ludwig Göransson's THE MANDALORIAN   
    Holy crap; I really had no clue that the point I was hinting at could suddenly seem to be THAT valid!
     
    But honestly, it only makes sense.
    It took me forever to start recognising the themes from Conan the Barbarian.
    Why? I have NOT THE FAINTEST CLUE!
    Now that they finally connected with me, I cannot believe how oblivious I used to be.
     
    And that's just one example out of oh-so-many.
     
    I'm sure John Williams goes through some form of similar process for all of his scores too.
    But he barely ever talks about his reasoning behind why he wrote what he wrote.
    I wished he'd elaborate on this more; just like these newer composers seem to be doing.
     
    Clearly Williams puts MASSIVE amounts of thought and creativity and effort into his work.
    And he's more consistent and often better at this than any other composer I have ever heard of.
    There is so much us and everyone else could learn from that man.
    But it appears that music itself is his primary means of communication.
    Which, in and of itself, explains a lot.
     
    This article mentions something that could be considered quite the massive shocker to certainly the die hard Star Wars mythology experts:
    https://io9.gizmodo.com/the-mandalorian-is-here-and-star-wars-will-never-be-the-1839793444/amp
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    Pieter_Boelen reacted to Disco Stu in What Is The Last Score You Listened To?   
    The Mandalorian - Chapter 1 (Ludwig Gorannsson)
     
    I love it!  Some really cool sounds and production.  There's a few parts I'm not a fan of, but they're short.  Overall I really enjoyed the first listen.  I'll listen again after I see the episode tonight.
     
    Everybody should at least listen to the end credits cue, it's so cool and groovy.  Touches of Morricone, which makes sense for the Western style.  I love that they let Gorannsson do something pretty unique for the series, instead of going for a Kevin Kiner-esque simulacrum.
     
     
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    Pieter_Boelen reacted to shad79 in Ludwig Göransson's THE MANDALORIAN   
    They released music from first episode.
     
    https://open.spotify.com/album/4xFmHg5dYvaqmn9ZNQpjWL?si=4qm5MR-nRvKRic4Knlq4Qg
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    Pieter_Boelen got a reaction from Disco Stu in Ludwig Göransson's THE MANDALORIAN   
    Holy crap; I really had no clue that the point I was hinting at could suddenly seem to be THAT valid!
     
    But honestly, it only makes sense.
    It took me forever to start recognising the themes from Conan the Barbarian.
    Why? I have NOT THE FAINTEST CLUE!
    Now that they finally connected with me, I cannot believe how oblivious I used to be.
     
    And that's just one example out of oh-so-many.
     
    I'm sure John Williams goes through some form of similar process for all of his scores too.
    But he barely ever talks about his reasoning behind why he wrote what he wrote.
    I wished he'd elaborate on this more; just like these newer composers seem to be doing.
     
    Clearly Williams puts MASSIVE amounts of thought and creativity and effort into his work.
    And he's more consistent and often better at this than any other composer I have ever heard of.
    There is so much us and everyone else could learn from that man.
    But it appears that music itself is his primary means of communication.
    Which, in and of itself, explains a lot.
     
    This article mentions something that could be considered quite the massive shocker to certainly the die hard Star Wars mythology experts:
    https://io9.gizmodo.com/the-mandalorian-is-here-and-star-wars-will-never-be-the-1839793444/amp
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    Pieter_Boelen reacted to Tydirium in The Mandalorian - Star Wars live action series on Disney+   
    Just finished watching the first episode. (The Disney+ app was live early.) Too tired to write my thoughts on the show itself right now aside from the fact that I loved it; can't wait for more. Feels very much at home in the SW universe. As for the score, though: I found myself struggling to get into it at first, mostly due to the more modern soundscape, but wound up enjoying it as the show went on. (That said, there's a theme that shows up a couple times in the episode that sounds almost like a Kylo Ren theme rip-off, so there's that...) The highlight for me was easily the main theme, which can be heard in a great presentation over the end credits, as well as a very memorable rendition when two of the main characters are riding creatures across a desert/canyon-y sort of landscape. Really great brass writing, and the tune itself is sort of Williams-esque in a way. Annnd this theme has been stuck in my head since the episode ended; not a bad sign at all! A soundtrack album release can't come soon enough, for me, even if only to get my hands on the credits track. Very excited to see what Goransson has in store for the rest of the season, though. Curious to hear what you guys think.
     
    EDIT: Also worth noting that the ethnic winds heard in that above clip do wind up being an aspect of the main theme IIRC, which is pretty cool.
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    Pieter_Boelen reacted to Nick Parker in Ludwig Göransson's THE MANDALORIAN   
    Genuine question: how would people prefer he talk about it? As someone who groans anytime Zimmer talks about
     
     
    THE PROCESS
     
    I'm not reading similar vibes from Goransson.
     
     
    This series was scored by the Borg.
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    Pieter_Boelen reacted to Gruesome Son of a Bitch in Ludwig Göransson's THE MANDALORIAN   
    That a technical term?
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    Pieter_Boelen reacted to Nick Parker in Ludwig Göransson's THE MANDALORIAN   
    I was very impressed with the spotting in Creed II--in fact it's one of the best-spotted films I've seen come out in a long time--so I'm hoping to see similar instincts at play with this one. Maybe there's potential for some classic unscored Western gunman drama and visuals!
     
    A lot of comments here about his dandiness with the process, but he's a dude who has shown he can deliver a score that both enhances the film and hints of an interesting vocabulary on its  own merits. 
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    Pieter_Boelen reacted to mrbellamy in Ludwig Göransson's THE MANDALORIAN   
    Lol
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    Pieter_Boelen got a reaction from Edmilson in Ludwig Göransson's THE MANDALORIAN   
    Oooh, I like that! Thank you very much for that one.
    Hopefully that's true; does make a lot of sense and also gives it a good reason to reappear more often in the sequel.
     
    Only remembering the main theme seems like quite a normal thing to me.
    And it far, FAR beats remembering not even the main theme. 
     
    I wonder how many notes people would have remembered from Raiders of the Lost Ark the very first time after seeing it.
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    Pieter_Boelen reacted to Edmilson in Ludwig Göransson's THE MANDALORIAN   
    Ludwig's work on BP reminded me a bit of Howard Shore on LOTR, in terms of all the musical research he had done, on this case with African music, in order to write his score.
     
     
    I interpreted that theme on being some sort of "New Dawn for Wakanda" theme. It represents hope for a different future for the country, post-Killmonger, on which they would be more open and helpful to the world, hence its performance on "Spaceship Bugatti", on which T'Challa shows his ship to a young black boy.
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    Pieter_Boelen reacted to Disco Stu in Ludwig Göransson's THE MANDALORIAN   
    I love the Black Panther score.  The rare Marvel score that not only has its own distinct personality and sound, but also goes for big emotions that make it feel more like a musical narrative.  Its plaudits are well-earned.
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    Pieter_Boelen reacted to Edmilson in Ludwig Göransson's THE MANDALORIAN   
    I really liked Black Panther, it worked really well on the movie and it was the best of the 5 scores nominated for the Oscar last year, which made its victory very deserving.
     
    Ludwig is a talented guy, I'm sure it'll be a good score for the show. I don't expect something fully symphonic, maybe something more harsh and gritty... Like a Morricone western score mixed with traditional orchestra like in the JW/Star Wars tradition, if that makes any sense, lol.
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    Pieter_Boelen reacted to Manakin Skywalker in The Mandalorian - Star Wars live action series on Disney+   
    And then three days after release they were suddenly worse than Hitler himself.
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    Pieter_Boelen reacted to Disco Stu in Ludwig Göransson's THE MANDALORIAN   
    Black Panther definitely does *not* sound like either Zimmer or Holkenborg.
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    Pieter_Boelen reacted to Arpy in The Mandalorian - Star Wars live action series on Disney+   
    I'm tired of these desert settings. I want alien planets like Felucia and Kamino, not more Tatooine!
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    Pieter_Boelen reacted to Chen G. in Fantastic Beasts And Where To Find Them 5-film series   
    I really like that some of the later films switch between funny and serious. The reason the Horcrux reveal in The Half-Blood Prince works is because it was preceeded by the hillarious funeral of Aragog. The juxtaposition makes that moment feel all the more weighty by comparison.
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    Pieter_Boelen reacted to Gruesome Son of a Bitch in Fantastic Beasts And Where To Find Them 5-film series   
    It's obviously the worst one.
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    Pieter_Boelen reacted to Bilbo in Fantastic Beasts And Where To Find Them 5-film series   
    Azkaban was the poorest performer of the original 8 which is interesting. 
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    Pieter_Boelen reacted to Chen G. in Fantastic Beasts And Where To Find Them 5-film series   
    It does happen. But to pretend like Cuaron's film is some perfect storm where that sort of thing doesn't happen: that's just untrue.
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    Pieter_Boelen reacted to Arpy in Fantastic Beasts And Where To Find Them 5-film series   
    The shake-up to the series with Cuaron was certainly a departure from the first two, but god damn was it successful. What do you mean by 'feels directed'? I'd take Cuaron over Yates any time if it meant we were given films with an artistic vision, executed with style and enthusiasm. 
     
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    Pieter_Boelen reacted to Thekthithm in Roland Emmerich regrets making Independence Day: Resurgence   
    What I meant was that two-parter episode "Lost City" was just a relatively obscure sci-fi TV affair from 2003, but as an alien invasion story, it outclassed a lavish Hollywood production from 2016 that was the sequel to the biggest alien invasion film ever made.
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    Pieter_Boelen reacted to TheUlyssesian in Fantastic Beasts And Where To Find Them 5-film series   
    There is also the assumption that if a movie is brightly colored, it is for younger audiences. I find that BS, but that is a prevelant feeling. Some of the serious Oscar type grave movies at the end of the year are desaturated to the point of being almost black and white.
     
     
    I think some softcore sex scenes might spice things up.
     
     
    That preposterous paternity plot, and kids being switched at birth and the dwarf care-taker and Leta LeStrange and that African American wizard chasing through something and love triangle between Newt's brother, Leta and Newt and Nicholas Flammel being there for no reason at all.
     
    I was like what the fuck is even going on? How about we focus on the characters you established in film 1 - Newt, Tina, Queenie, Jacob and Grindlewald. They were present but flung to the sidelines with all this garbage stuff taking center stage.
     
    It's if imagine after the first Harry potter film, the movies shifted to Neville's paternity, and Padma Patil's brother and Vincent Crabbe's love triangle.
     
    She truly lost it I feel. To the extent you wonder - what the heck was she trying to even write. It is incomprehensible.
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    Pieter_Boelen reacted to Gruesome Son of a Bitch in Roland Emmerich regrets making Independence Day: Resurgence   
    The sequel didn't make any impression. It played to empty theaters. People can trash ID4 all they want, but it was one of the definitive 90s movies and also one of the biggest of all time. Big, loud, fun and insanely quotable. 
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    Pieter_Boelen reacted to Alexcremers in Roland Emmerich regrets making Independence Day: Resurgence   
    Let's have a discussion about it!
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