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On 28/04/2023 at 4:21 AM, Groovygoth666 said:
But after this is there many 90's scores of Williams left without an expansion? (Outside of his Oliver Stone collaborations?)
Hook
JFK
Nixon
Sleepers
Seven Years in Tibet
Stepmom
Angela's Ashes
The Phantom Menace
Those 8 remain incomplete. Out of those, 6 can be expanded by LLL.
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1 hour ago, QuartalHarmony said:
I take it no-one’s got any theories about how we could be getting 2+ hours of music from this score without any OST tracks? A crazy number of alternates is the only thing I can think of.
My prediction is, the 2CD release will be structured and have a similar lenght like Empire of the Sun. Two discs packed full of alternates seems a bit much.
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8 hours ago, Yavar Moradi said:
P.S. Don’t forget to add purple for totally unreleased, to your color key at the bottom…
I'll get to it eventually. By the way, I excluded Gremlins 2 from your list. If we started adding scores with bad sounding or badly produced C&C releases, there would have to be a dozen more on the list. (I wouldn't even count Gremlins 2 as one of them.)
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3 minutes ago, bollemanneke said:
A couple definitely means two or more to me.
Yes. I say it's "at least two" which Doug's wording can be translated into.
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I'm late this year, but not too late!
Releases that happened in 2017:
- Thriller re-recording by Tadlow
- Poltergeist II: The Other Side improved re-release by Intrada
- Papillon expansion by Quartet
- One Little Indian improved re-release by Intrada
- The Haunting expansion by Varese Sarabande
- Damnation Alley expansion by Intrada
- The Russia House expansion by Quartet
Releases that happened in 2018:
- Rambo III improved re-release by Intrada
- Thriller 2 re-recording by Tadlow
- Baby: Secret of the Lost Legend improved re-release by Intrada
- 100 Rifles improved re-release/Rio Conchos re-release by La-La Land
- Small Soldiers expansion by Varese Sarabande
- The Mummy expansion by Intrada
- The Lonely Guy expansion and premiere CD release by Intrada
- The Reincarnation of Peter Proud premiere release by Intrada
Releases that happened in 2019:
- Warning Shot improved re-release/Archer premiere release by La-La Land
- Raggedy Man re-release by Varese Sarabande
- Barnaby Jones premiere release by La-La Land
- Planet of the Apes/Escape from the Planet of the Apes improved re-releases by La-La Land
- Air Force One expansion by Varese Sarabande
- The Great Train Robbery improved re-release by Quartet
Releases that happened in 2020:
- The Swarm improved re-release by La-La Land
- Morituri improved re-release by Intrada
- U.S. Marshals expansion by Varese Sarabande
- Take Her, She's Mine premiere release by Intrada
- Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea expansion by La-La Land
- Total Recall re-release by Quartet
- The Don Is Dead premiere release by Intrada
- The Last Castle expansion by Intrada
- Von Ryan's Express/The Blue Max re-releases by La-La Land
- The Detective re-release/The Flim-Flam Man expansion by La-La Land
- Inchon improved re-release by Intrada
Releases that happened in 2021:
- Looney Tunes: Back in Action expansion by Varese Sarabande
- Face of a Fugitive premiere release by Intrada
- Along Came a Spider expansion by Varese Sarabande
- Lionheart expansion by Varese Sarabande
- The Stripper expansion/S*P*Y*S expansion by La-La Land
- Rio Conchos re-recording improved re-release by Intrada
- Shamus premiere release by Intrada
- Caboblanco expansion by La-La Land
- The Public Eye premiere release by Intrada
- Extreme Prejudice expansion by Intrada
- The Russia House re-release by Quartet
- Love Field expansion by Varese Sarabande
- Basic Instinct re-release by Quartet
- Ace Eli and Roger of the Skies improved re-release/Tora! Tora! Tora! re-release by La-La Land
- Legend expansion by Music Box
- Masada expansion by Intrada
Releases that happened in 2022:
- Star Trek: The Motion Picture shortened re-release by La-La Land
- Black Patch/The Man re-recording by Intrada
- The Sand Pebbles improved re-release by Intrada
- Seconds expansion by Quartet
- Matinee expansion by Intrada
- Anna and the King expansion/A Tree Grows in Brooklyn expansion/Room 222 expansion/Prudence and the Chief premiere release/Only in America premiere release/Nick Quarry improved re-release/A Girl Named Sooner improved re-release by La-La Land
- Rudy expansion by Varese Sarabande
- Jerry Goldsmith at the General Electric Theater Volume 1 & 2 premiere release (digital)
- Hollow Man expansion by Intrada
- L.A. Confidential expansion by Varese Sarabande
- The 'Burbs expansion by La-La Land
This year's releases:
- City Hall expansion by Varese Sarabande
- Jerry Goldsmith at the General Electric Theater Volume 3, 4, & 5 premiere release (digital)
- MacArthur premiere release by Intrada
Potential Releases:
- Timeline - only OST exists, surefire seller
- Soarin' Over California - only ride cue commercially released, loading and unloading (what they call "fill and spill") cues remain unreleased though there's a YT upload of the former
- Disney's The Kid - never recorded but Goldsmith wrote two dozen cues which exist at the Academy's Margaret Herrick Library, and a new recording could be produced
- The 13th Warrior - only OST exists, must be licensed out by Disney, surefire seller
- Mulan - only OST and FYC exists, must be licensed out by Disney, surefire seller
- Fierce Creatures - only OST exists (several film cues remain unreleased)
- 2 Days in the Valley - only posthumous OST exists, moderate seller
- Angie - only OST exists, moderate seller
- Babe (the Gallant Pig) - never recorded but Goldsmith wrote 17 cues (covering over 80% of the film) which exist at the Academy's Margaret Herrick Library, and a new recording could be produced
- Malice - only OST exists, moderate seller
- Six Degrees of Separation - only OST exists, bad seller
- The Vanishing - expansion almost complete, moderate seller
- Medicine Man - only OST exists, must be licensed out by Disney, surefire seller
- Mr. Baseball - only OST exists, bad seller
- Mom and Dad Save the World - only OST exists, moderate seller
- Not Without My Daughter - expansion almost complete, however: lost elements, bad seller
- Brotherhood of the Gun (aka Hollister) - theme only (several versions); score composed by Joel Goldsmith
- H.E.L.P. - theme only (format music including Main Title); scores composed by Joel Goldsmith
- Leviathan - only OST exists (potential expansion by Quartet), surefire seller
- Link - only OST exists, commercially (expanded boot has poor sound)
- Innerspace - expansion almost complete, surefire seller
- Supergirl - expansion almost complete, must be licensed out by Silva, surefire seller
- Under Fire - only OST exists (Twilight Time Blu-ray iso track is music & effects)
- The Secret of NIMH - expansion only added a single cue (almost 10 minutes still missing)
- Raggedy Man - only OST exists
- The Final Conflict - expansion almost complete, surefire seller
- Twilight's Last Gleaming - only OST exists, good seller
- Damien: Omen II - expansion already complete, surefire seller
- The Cassandra Crossing - expansion already complete, good seller
- High Velocity - only OST exists, good seller
- Damnation Alley - Intrada had to re-record synth elements; score is OOP and especially deserves a re-release if original synth elements are ever uncovered
- Ransom (aka The Terrorists) - only (terrible) OST exists
- Only in America (aka The Best of Times) - only four brief cues (two minutes) released by LLL in 2022 taken from the pilot film's mixed audio track; complete score would probably require a new recording
- Indict and Convict - score for TV movie starring William Shatner and Eli Wallach
- The Waltons: "The Foundling", "The Typewriter", "The Star", "The Ceremony", "The Literary Man", "The Love Story" - Goldsmith wrote the series theme and scored these six episodes; tapes are lost and might require a new recording
- Pursuit - score for TV movie starring Ben Gazzara and Martin Sheen
- The Other - Varese only released a single track 23 minute suite on album covering about half the score (Twilight Time Blu-ray isolated score track preserves film micro-edits)
- The Mephisto Waltz - only OST exists (several cues are missing and mix is entirely different from the film)
- The Last Run - only (re-recorded) OST exists; film recording is apparently lost
- Crawlspace - score for TV movie starring Arthur Kennedy
- Do Not Fold, Spindle, or Mutilate - score for TV movie starring Myrna Loy
- Lights Out: "When Widows Weep" - TV pilot score
- Hollywood Television Theater - theme only
- The Ballad of Cable Hogue - only OST exists, ~7 minutes of score unreleased (plus lots of source music)
- Bracken's World: "A Score Without Strings" - episodic TV score
- The Chairman - only OST (+ one additional short cue fragment) exists (Twilight Time Blu-ray isolated score track is music & effects)
- "The People Next Door" (CBS Playhouse) - score for TV movie starring Lloyd Bridges and Robert Duvall
- In Like Flint - Intrada released the OST, Varese released less than half the film recording (Twilight Time Blu-ray isolated score track preserves film micro-edits)
- Our Man Flint - Intrada released the OST, Varese released less than half the film recording (Twilight Time Blu-ray isolated score track preserves film micro-edits)
- The Legend of Jesse James: "Things Don't Just Happen" - episodic TV score
- The Satan Bug - premiere release has only half the score free of intrusive sound effects
- In Harm's Way - expansion only added a single score cue and two source cues (over half the score still unreleased!)
- Ben Casey: "Eulogy in Four Flats" - episodic TV score
- Shock Treatment - expansion almost complete
- Gunsmoke: "Doc Judge", "The Blacksmith", "The Wake", "Love Thy Neighbor", "Old Faces", "Whispering Tree" - six episodic scores for this western TV series
- Destry: "Destry Had a Little Lamb", "Law and Order Day", "Stormy Is a Lady" - three episodic scores for this western TV series
- Breaking Point: "A Little Anger Is a Good Thing", "So Many Pretty Girls, So Little Time" - at least two episodic scores for this western TV series
- The General With the Cockeyed Id - commercially unreleased; bootleg exists with terrible sound
- Take Her, She's Mine - 2020 premiere release still missing a number of cues
- Chrysler Theater: "A Killing at Sundial" - series pilot score
- Lilies of the Field - only OST exists
- Kraft Mystery Theater: "Shadow of a Man" - episodic TV score
- Freud - Varese shouldn't own perpetuity rights, but their expansion wasn't quite complete and omitted two alternates present on the LP release (including the music tracked into Alien!)
- Wagon Train: "The Ah Chong Story", "The Wagon Train Mutiny" - two episodic TV scores
- 87th Precinct: "Step Forward" - episodic TV score
- General Electric Theater - at least 9 scores for this series; Leigh Phillips has so far newly recorded 4 of them but the original recordings are completely unreleased
- Thriller - Leigh Phillips did re-recorded suites (cond. Nic Raine) representing a dozen of Goldsmith's scores for this series; four scores of his remain completely unreleased (the original recordings were only available on DVD isolated music & effects tracks)
- Tomorrow's Newspaper: "All Day to Live" - unsold pilot score
- Rawhide: "Incident in the Middle of Nowhere" - episodic TV score
- The Twilight Zone - some scores are incomplete and two of his scores are unreleased (apart from isolated score track w/ dialogue bleed): "The Four of Us Are Dying" and "Nightmare as a Child"
- The Expendables - unsold pilot score
- Have Gun — Will Travel: "The Fatalist", "A Head of Hair" - two episodic TV scores
- Studs Lonigan - a handful of short score cues are missing, plus an original Goldsmith source cue based on his main theme
- Playhouse 90 - two scores partially released; many others totally unreleased
- Perry Mason: "The Case of the Blushing Pearls", "The Case of Paul Drake's Dilemma" - first score released complete; second score entirely unreleased
- The Lineup: "Wake Up to Terror", "The Strange Return of Army Armitage", "Lonesome as Midnight" - first score partially released; other two scores (and new Main Title!) unreleased
- Peck's Bad Girl - theme and multiple episode scores
- Pursuit - short-lived 1959 anthology series for which Goldsmith wrote at least one score
- Black Saddle - theme only; multiple commercial covers have been released but never original
- Man on the Beach: "Saturday Night in Santa Monica" - unsold pilot score; only partially released as "Jazz Theme #1" on Twilight Zone album
- World in White - unsold pilot score
- The Sergeant and the Lady - unsold pilot score
- Studio One - at least nine scores (five minute fragment of one of them was released as "Jazz Theme #2" on Twilight Zone album, but I am SO not counting that as a release for this series)
- Frontier Gentleman - theme and three episodic scores; his final work for radio
- The Wanderer - unsold pilot score
- Crime Classics - unsold pilot score
- Climax! - who knows how many original scores? (I've confirmed at least three)
- CBS Radio Workshop - at least six extant episodes including the masterpiece "1489 Words"
- CBS Suspense - at least four extant radio episodes
- CBS Romance - at least seven extant radio episodes
- Hallmark Hall of Fame - at least three extant radio episodes
- Columbia Workshop - one extant episode (his first original radio score, in November 1951)
Black = only OST exists
Red = expanded, but not complete
Orange = complete, but in exigent need of a reissue or a remaster
Blue = any of those categories, owned in perpetuity by Varese Sarabande
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8 hours ago, Incanus said:
I would love a release or releases of the whole John Williams/Oliver Stone "trilogy", Born on the Fourth of July, JFK and Nixon.
Any Stone/Williams release seems to be postponed forever...
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I did another mood album trying to create a world of sound that grasps the vastness and emptiness of space - an attempt which is naturally doomed to fail, because we ain't able to grasp on such things. I've been reading a lot of scientific papers and articles, lately, which you may notice looking at the track titles.
In the end, this album might just be the sonic expression of a sense of romance and threat that I have in mind, when I'm reading astronomy. If there is any inspiration from contemporary film music, it got to be Hans Zimmer's Dune and Jerry Goldsmith's Alien. At least, I feel likes elements from these two shine through at times.
Enjoy, while watching the skies at night!
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Just now, Naïve Old Fart said:
As far as 1987 Jerry goes, give me EXTREME PREJUDICE, any day.
But without sonic spikes and levelled volume, please.
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On 22/01/2023 at 12:43 AM, Disco Stu said:
Lodger is the most underrated, it's a fucking masterpiece.
1. Hunky Dory
2. Lodger
3. Aladdin Sane
4. Heroes
5. Station to Station
6. Ziggy
7. Blackstar
8. Diamond Dogs
9. Low
10. Scary Monsters
I agree on Lodger.
My personal favourites would look as follows:
- Outside
- Diamond Dogs
- Blackstar
- Scary Monster (and Super Creeps)
- The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars
- "Heroes"
- Space Oddity
- Lodger
- Young Americans
- Low
2-5 can change on a daily basis. 6-10 as well. To me the most underrated albums are Lodger, Heathen and Black Tie, White Noise.
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Have I ever said that the score left me underwhelmed somehow. It must be the performance and the instrumentation - the score itself as on paper is great, but I cannot really enjoy it. This score is in dire need of a re-recording à la Conan The Barbarian. I'm gonna repeat that until we get one.
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If they re-do The Lost World they should reconsider the volume of some tracks. Rescuing Sarah and Ripples always had the brass section mixed in too low which made them sound to quiet in general, especially if you compare them with The Hunt.
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@Jay But doesn't the edit in Amistad make it the only OST by John Williams that has the same part of recorded music appearing three times on the album?
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6 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said:
Of course it is... and so is HUNKY DORY, YOUNG AMERICANS, STATIONTOSTATION, and "HEROES".
The only albums of his that could possibly qualify as better than Ziggy are Diamond Dogs, Low, Scary Monsters and Blackstar.
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3 hours ago, Luke Skywalker said:
They released goldeneye too, i have it.* It seems they stopped there.
Seems like they skipped Licence to Kill.
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James Bond
I have recently been bingewatching the older James Bond films of which I've many seen for the very first time, starting with Dr. No and (at least for now) ending with Licence to Kill. A few Thoughts:
First of all, I love Sean Connery as Bond, there's no one to beat his elegance and his sex appeal. He's just the classic James Bond. At the same time, he's given us the most cringeworthy sexist moments of the whole franchise. I really like the more grounded interpretation of George Lazenby in On Her Majesty's Secret Service and Timothy Dalton in The Living Daylights - also two of the best films. It is interesting that Dalton's interpretation switches from rather heartfelt to rather grimming between his two performances. The later resembles the Bond that is later portrayed by Daniel Craig in Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace. My least favourite Bond actor is Roger Moore, but that might be due to the fact that the James Bond films he's been in are the most frivolous and partly shoddy films of the entire franchise.
The stunts and special effects get much better and look more realistic from For Your Eyes Only onwards. And by the way, I have a soft spot for that film, the Bond girl is quite unique, the final sequence is exquisitely filmed and the Bill Conti score is great.
The best directed film is From Russia with Love which has moments that remind you of Hitchcock (the train sequence). The films that qualify for worst direction are spread all over the Roger Moore era. However, overall, I don't think that the quality between the films is as huge as many people like to imply. I don't consider Goldfinger a masterpiece and I don't consider Moonraker or Octopussy total trash.
The funny thing about Moonraker is that it is largely a gaudy copy of The Spy Who Loved Me, the main difference being the finale taking place in space and not underwater.
I was kinda shocked about the level of graphic violence in Licence to Kill. They obviously tried to copy the harder-than-nails 80s action genre. It kinda disturbed me since I did not really expect that. Still, after all I've heard about the film I was positively surprised.
My favourite film is From Russia with Love. My least favourite film is Live or Let Die. From the rambling plot to the racist and insensitive portrayal of black people it is a very unfortunate entrance to the Moore era.
My favourite Bond girl is Diana Rigg in On Her Majesty's Secret Service. She's intelligent and sexy and her role is essential to the course of the plot. Bond girls don't need to be depicted as manly heroines, but they should be more than just decoration.
If I had to rank the films up until that point, it would probably look like this:
- From Russia with Love
- Goldfinger
- On Her Majesty's Secret Service
- You Only Live Twice
- The Living Daylights
- Diamonds Are Forever
- Thunderball
- Licence to Kill
- For Your Eyes Only
- The Man with the Golden Gun
- Dr. No
- The Spy Who Loved Me
- A View to a Kill
- Octopussy
- Moonraker
- Live or Let Die
And if I had to rank my favourite Bond actors, I would be like this:
- Sean Connery
- Daniel Craig
- Timothy Dalton
- George Lazenby
- Pierce Brosnan
- Roger Moore
- Bespin, Jay and JNHFan2000
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So a re-release this time mastered by MM and truly complete would be welcomed, I guess.
Dr. No, From Russia with Love, Goldfinger and later John Barry scores are not expanded at all?
EDIT: Ok, I was looking into it, they really re-released everything up to Living Daylights (the last John Barry score), but the scores are completely randomly expanded or not expanded.
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Can someone explain to me what's the release situation of the John Barry scores? Do they all have some kind of expansions or do the complete recordings rot in a vault? A James Bond John Barry collection seems like a neat idea...
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The second album is more on the industrial, noise rock, experimental territory with elements of hiphop, although it also contains some dark ambient pieces. I have been working on it for over two years. It took me a huge amount of time to finalize it, especially the mixing and mastering (in order to make it sound at least halfway professional) was a big challenge.
In the end it is a melting pot of so many genres that no one might actually want to listen to it, because it features something for everyone to dislike. The concept behind it is two years of pandemic and piles of other bullshit that have happened worldwide and the distress caused by all that expressed in musical form.
Enjoy (or don't)!
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22 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said:
Who would want to listen to music with an unsettling atmosphere while strolling at night?
I'm not entirely against making a walk at night with yur headphones on and playing some music that fits the mood of the night. Not at all. However, I once had to turn off Altered States, that one was too much.
12 hours ago, karelm said:First of all, dude, your profile picture is of a galaxy I've photographed!
It's the fraction of a picture a friend of mine has taken, the unedited photo looks very similar to your one.
12 hours ago, karelm said:Second, I like your sound design. It is more atmospheric/ambient than scary. I could use more tempo variety. Variety is good. Really nice sound design though.
Nice to know! I've got some feedback that the music evokes pictures of the desert or a spaceship, in contrast to the story of a murderer that are implied by the track titles.
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I think, I haven't shared these two albums that I released in October and November yet:
The first one is a very conventional and short mood album to create an unsettling atmosphere - you can listen to it, when you are on a stroll at night. The track titles is purely based on some test listeners associations.
What Is The Last Film You Watched? (2022 films)
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The score was the only downside of one of the greatest anti war films of recent years. I don't want to hear horn blasts, when young soldiers are killed by a flame thrower. What the fuck did they think that was good for?