gkgyver 1,645 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 I wouldn't expect the Raiders CD to change much though.Don't expect the liner notes, though ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjguitar 0 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 Expanded scores or it's a total waste of my timeYou're wrong, friend. All three of them are well out of print and cost a ton of money on the secondary market. The only one I've seen at reasonable prices in the past TWO YEARS is Last Crusade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timo Martikainen 127 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 When Paramount released DVD-versions of the movies they also remastered soundtracks (THX Certified). I presume they also mastered the score-only tracks from the old master tapes. It would not be so hard to use this remastered material for the new CD releases.DCC released in 1995 an expanded version of the Raiders of the Lost Ark and it sold out quite fast. If this was commercially profitable it should be profitable to re-release them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 Raiders was easier to release because it was recorded with the London Symphony Orchestra (no reuse fees).You have an interesting point about the soundtrack remastering. I did a DVD rip of Temple of Doom a while ago, and frankly, it sounded very tinny and distant, not up to the standard of the OST (and yes, I'm talking about the full 5.1 mix, not the rear channels). This is based on listening to the end credits. However, who knows? This may be an attribute of the DVD formatting and whatnot, not the masters themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delorean90 42 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 If I recall correctly, my attempts to rip end credits from DVDs, even with all channels, have generally come up with slightly subpar sound quality. It's quite possible it does have to do with the DVD formatting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 Hmm, I've always thought my DVD rip of ToD (all unreleased, not just the end credits) sounded fine, considering. As good as a rear channel rip is going to sound, at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 Yes, but I'm talking about the full mix. I expected more from a surround sound mix of music! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 True. Makes you wonder about those ToD master rumors again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artyjeffrey 20 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 I'm sure they'll re-release the scores as they are now...with "re-mastered" sound and screensaversK.M....and stickers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,346 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 The more successful a movie, the more successful its soundtrack and merchandise in general. Indiana Jones is a pretty successful movie franchise. Hmmm, 2 plus 2....Not really. As this thread has noted, the first Potter album sold 200.000 copies (and this for a rare case when a movie becomes an enormous craze) while the soundtracks of the still very successful sequels sold considerably less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,319 Posted December 2, 2007 Author Share Posted December 2, 2007 Shouldn't we flood the SpielbergFilms forum with posts for Steven to send to Lucasfilm? The guy has tight connections; he even gets things amended on the official website and gets let known stuff that is coming soon, like new videos, weeks/days in advance.If a lot of posters on his forum are demanding these expanded CD's, it could be the catalyst Lucasfilm needs to give them the official greenlight! We shouldn't waste this chance; once Indy IV is gone, it might be too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,544 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 Do you also compare Indiana Jones the movie to Titanic the movie? Idiots! Sometimes I wonder how you think. Most of the time I don't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,695 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 If I recall correctly, my attempts to rip end credits from DVDs, even with all channels, have generally come up with slightly subpar sound quality. It's quite possible it does have to do with the DVD formatting.Yes, I think there's something in formatting that lowers the overall, quality with some movies. To cite an example; before I found the real complete score to The Village, I tried ripping the main titles from the DVD, and there was a noticeable lack in sharpness and dynamics - almost more noise, that wasn't present in a DVD rip I had.And the alternate BotF from the fellowship EE credits is horrendous quality - sounds like it's compressed at about 128k some of the time. I really hope it's on the rarities disc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timo Martikainen 127 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 As this thread has noted, the first Potter album sold 200.000 copies (and this for a rare case when a movie becomes an enormous craze) while the soundtracks of the still very successful sequels sold considerably less.Like I said earlier in this same thread, John Williams got a Gold Record Award from the Philosopher's Stone and it sold at least over 500 000 copies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashinyobject 0 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 Hasn't Steven posted on this forum before?Wow, I haven't posted here in a year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 Yes, he has.And he's a very reliable source.Any postive news is good news, as far as I'm concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 Km is correct, if it's just a re-release of the original CDs then its a waste of time as far as I'm concerned.Now is the time to do it correctly and issue them in expanded/complete form. If not then that means Lucasfilm can continue to drag the process out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjguitar 0 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 Km is correct, if it's just a re-release of the original CDs then its a waste of time as far as I'm concerned.Now is the time to do it correctly and issue them in expanded/complete form. If not then that means Lucasfilm can continue to drag the process out.Have you no empahy for all those who missed out on the orgiinal releases, those whose only exposure to the music of Indiana Jones is through the actual films and the universally panned Silva Screen compilation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 I bought one of their songs from iTunes, before I owned all three Indy soundtracks. It's TERRIBLE!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 Km is correct, if it's just a re-release of the original CDs then its a waste of time as far as I'm concerned.Now is the time to do it correctly and issue them in expanded/complete form. If not then that means Lucasfilm can continue to drag the process out.Have you no empahy for all those who missed out on the orgiinal releases, those whose only exposure to the music of Indiana Jones is through the actual films and the universally panned Silva Screen compilation?Not really ,the music is out there and easily accesible.Just trade ot download it,like everyone else.unless you one of those super legal typesk.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 Km is correct, if it's just a re-release of the original CDs then its a waste of time as far as I'm concerned.Now is the time to do it correctly and issue them in expanded/complete form. If not then that means Lucasfilm can continue to drag the process out.Have you no empahy for all those who missed out on the orgiinal releases, those whose only exposure to the music of Indiana Jones is through the actual films and the universally panned Silva Screen compilation?If you want to know the truth, so what if you missed it? It had it's original release and now it's gone, just like most products in the real world. Things come and go but then something much better and improved comes along to take it's place.No one is saying they can't be released, it's just a waste to continue to re-release the same old thing and not expand upon them. Here's the chance for you to not only get the three scores but get them in a complete/expanded and remastered form.If you want the original CDs so bad go to the trading board and ask someone to send you the files to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 Pieter Boelen is offering the complete ToD (DVD rip + album trakcs) right nowhttp://jwfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=14256just PM him,as easy as that.No need to pray for a re-issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjguitar 0 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 No one is saying they can't be released, it's just a waste to continue to re-release the same old thing and not expand upon them. Here's the chance for you to not only get the three scores but get them in a complete/expanded and remastered form.I'm not against such releases, but I'd still buy it if it was rehash...as most people who missed out on the other releases would.Unless you're content with Mp3s, which is fine, but sometimes if I really like a score, I like to have a physical copy. It's really a collector mentality and its kind of dumb...but it is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 It's that collector mentality that has Lucasfilm releasing stuff like that SW 30th anniversary box set with stickers and AotC OST with 4 different covers.Your proving them right that have no real incentive to give us more music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjguitar 0 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 It's that collector mentality that has Lucasfilm releasing stuff like that SW 30th anniversary box set with stickers and AotC OST with 4 different covers.Your proving them right that have no real incentive to give us more musicI disagree because the 30th anniversary box is nothing more than rehash of the 97 sets which are still available for decent prices, however, the Indy titles are much more expensive and not available to anyone who wantst hem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 ok thena re-issue would please the few JW collectors that don't have the original c.d.'s yet or don't want MP3'sWhich is not the majority here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 Pieter Boelen is offering the complete ToD (DVD rip + album trakcs) right nowIt's not complete though. Extended with minor sound effects and better than the OST as far as I'm concerned. But definitly not complete. I would buy a proper extended/complete version in a heartbeat. And I would probably even buy a re-issue of the Raiders of the Lost Ark and Temple of Doom OSTs. I only have Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 I'm not sure about that. Speaking for myself, I've got MP3s of ToD, but I really want the CD on my shelf. I like the original on my shelf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 I think plenty of people bought the re-issue of Witches of Eastwick earlier this year.I don't even want to contemplate Lucasfilm doing a straight re-issue.Positive vibes only! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 You think you are some kind of Jedi? Waving your arm like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rienzi0711 0 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 I'm sure they'll re-release the scores as they are now...with "re-mastered" sound and screensaversK.M....and stickers.They can leave liner notes out as long as the box set comes with a full size replica of Indy's fedora or the Ark or something. fsb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 Way off topic, but can the newer Witches of Eastwick still be found in stores? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 Probably, although maybe not. I got mine from Tower Records, but that went out of business. It'll definitely be on Amazon.Here it is: http://www.amazon.com/Witches-Eastwick-Jac...8200&sr=8-4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 T....t....Tower Records! *burst into tears*I have Dance of the Witches, is the rest of the score in the same vein? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 Pretty much. Witches is the first stirrings of what would become the "Hook/Home Alone/Potter" sound. I still haven't really gotten into it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 T....t....Tower Records! *burst into tears*You didn't know that? This happened months and months ago.Pretty much. Witches is the first stirrings of what would become the "Hook/Home Alone/Potter" sound. I still haven't really gotten into it though.The very beginning of the track sounds kinda like Elfman to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 T....t....Tower Records! *burst into tears*I have Dance of the Witches, is the rest of the score in the same vein?Dances of witches is a more wild cue .There's some nice magical passages(Opening Credits,The Tennis Game),but also darker cues.and the Ballroom Cue which is a must have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 Just ordered WoE.T....t....Tower Records! *burst into tears*You didn't know that? This happened months and months ago.Oh know, I knew that, there was one right by my house. I just got sad when I saw the name...I had flashbacks...of all the glorious memories... Actually, near my house, they replaced it with and even better CD store with MUCH cheaper prices, more selection, and more used items. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 Where do you get all this money from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 Those matters....don't concern you.But actually, the only items that are semi-expensive are the Simpsons Special Edition and NBNW, which were both twenty dollars. As I mentioned above, I know a CD store with great used selection, sometimes the CDs are as low as 2 dollars. The majority of the CDs you see on that list that are "Recieved" are used and cheap, allowing me to spend more money on online or new items. And almost EVERY time I buy an online item, it's under the Used/New section of Amazon.Keep in mind that I only got into soundtracks in 1999. It was about one year ago that I started buying them so often. My collection is vastly unsuperior to most of yours, due to the fact that I started collecting so late. You have probably spent more money on soundtracks than I have, just more spread out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 I miss the joy of buying score after score after score...spending money like there was no tomorrow. It was a great feeling, especially when I had a steady income, which I no longer have. These days, I have nothing left to buy aside from the occasional new score that comes out, plus no money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 Why do you not have a steady income? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 Why do you not have a steady income?No job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 Oh, that would explain it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Brausam 215 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 Way off topic, but can the newer Witches of Eastwick still be found in stores?Barnes and Noble stores still carry it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 indy4, when I first read your recently ordered list, I thought you had Horton Hears A Who the movie coming out. I got a little overly estatic for a John Powell release already. I mean, I knew it couldn't be, but I had a nano second of hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 LOL, that's funny! I didn't even know there was a HHAW movie coming out, I think I'll want to see that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 Eh, actually it doesn't look too good. Voices of Jim Carrey and Steve Carell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 Carell was hilarious in the Office, Carrey is okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 I love it that Lucasfilm is taking into serious consideration that these things couldn't sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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