The clueless public

[Richard Penna 3,694]

I've always found it funny when someone asks me what kind of music I listen to - it always falls into two categories: those who never noticed it but think it's kind of neat, and those who think you're from Mars.

I bring this up because of some comments I got on a video I posted on youtube a while back at http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rBwlBJ0-pQ4#GU5U2spHI_4, basically an isolated score of the Doctor Who chase scene. Notice that one guy had never noticed the music before but thought it was 'good', whereas the other person wonders where the words are - misses the point completely IOW.

Just why do you think it is that so many people don't realise movies have music in them?

[Sixers 0]

Notice that one guy had never noticed the music before but thought it was 'good', whereas the other person wonders where the words are - misses the point completely IOW.

Same person.

[Richard Penna 3,694]

You're right, didn't notice that. I guess the polar opposite comments made my mind not see it.

My question still stands however.

[BLUMENKOHL 1,068]

I think...and I merely think he meant...why don't you put the video WITH the words...and the music I think. Or do it both ways, like music seperate and one with words only? Still uneducated but in a different way. Regardless he doesn't mean the words to the music.

I don't know of people who don't know films have music.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

I think I might be dating one.....

[Greg1138 3]

Dunno - but watching that vid led me to THIS - which made me chortle a little....

I guess part of the answer will be about how much you are unconsciously affected by such music......is it there to be noticed? Does that stop it affecting you? It's a big subject to be sure.....

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

One might say that if you do not consciencely notice the music in a film, that it is doing it's job correctly.

[Quintus 5,399]

I've been doing quite a lot of 'dating' again lately since recently becoming single and the whole "what sort of music are you into?" (a question I'd long forgotten how to handle) is becoming a right royal pain in the arse tbh. Why did I have to be 'blessed' with this fine musical palette O 'Lord?

Anyway I usually answer with "anything catchy really" which is about as bland an answer as one would expect. If I see the girl more than twice and the same awkward (why?) question rears its ugly head (which it sooooo does) I sort of try to break them in easily by saying "I like orchestral (NOT classical, since that would kinda create the wrong impression) stuff too". You gotta understand, young out-going women don't find dudes who like film music to be strangely attractive. Luckily for me I'm pretty clued up with the more conventional musical tastes too, which gets me by up to a point.

Only the full-time girlfriends get to find out about my specialist interest. Which they are always fine about, even appreciative of actually. Most women love film music too. They just don't realise how much until they meet someone like us guys!

True story

[Ray Barnsbury 8]

It's true, sometimes you have to ease into it with new people. Flying your freak flag right from the start might not let them get to know you outside of that context.

[Red 75]

Just why do you think it is that so many people don't realise movies have music in them?

They're too busy watching instead of listening? If you aren't familiar with the music in a certain film (or soundtracks in general) at all you'd probably be more prone to hearing it subconsciously.

[Ollie 1,059]

1. Most people don't notice music in films unless it's something that really stands out.

2. Most people notice the songs and expect soundtracks to be filled with them because they don't expect anyone to like "orchestral music" with the exception of classical.

Many years ago I was browsing thru the soundtracks sections when I overheard some people talking amongst each other, wondering who was performing on the ID4 soundtrack. I just chuckled to myself.

3. Girls, no matter what they look like, like guys who like film music, no matter what they look like. It does help your case if you like other music as well. However it might be in your best interest to get to know someone before you spring something on them they may find strange or geeky.

Sometimes it might help to tell a girl or person that looks at you strangely that film scores are like listening to classical music, in most cases. That's usually followed by an "Oh, ok." You would be suprised at how many women have some sort of orchestral score in their CD collection. More than likely it's a romantic/ love story film score but they do have them. And you would be suprised at the number of women who actually like it once they give it a listen.

Now don't go playing Goldsmith's Planet of The Apes... But if you go to a concert for film music I'm sure you will see plenty of women there, enjoying the music. And men as well.

[Quintus 5,399]

You would be suprised at how many women have some sort of orchestral score in their CD collection.

It's Titanic. Fact.

Now don't go playing Goldsmith's Planet of The Apes...

It's not Titanic. Therefore your warning is valid as that would be sexual suicide.

[Ollie 1,059]

Titanic is one of them. But there are others, my wife had a few other scores when I met her, and it can be a great ice breaker when it comes to telling a girl the majority of your CDs are film scores.

[John Crichton 4]

bring this up because of some comments I got on a video I posted on youtube a while back at http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rBwlBJ0-pQ4#GU5U2spHI_4, basically an isolated score of the Doctor Who chase scene. Notice that one guy had never noticed the music before but thought it was 'good', whereas the other person wonders where the words are - misses the point completely IOW.

Nice job on that video rich, did you just take that cue off the CD and lay it over? I love that cue, especially the little fanfare when the TARDIS shows up.

[Luke Skywalker 1,795]

Titanic is one of them. But there are others, my wife had a few other scores when I met her, and it can be a great ice breaker when it comes to telling a girl the majority of your CDs are film scores.

Sounds more or less like a kind of 'getting out of the closet'

[Quintus 5,399]

The comparison is, though extreme, not a million miles away from the way it is. For me at least.

These aren't chubby munster women I'm talking about (women like that are grateful for whatever they get) of course.

I'm also a male chauvinist pig.

[Maglorfin 196]

Titanic is one of them.

The other is very probably Dawson's Creek and the third Sex and the City, which are of course just song compilations with the series' main title - if that - but most of them'll fight you anytime that these are real, serious soundtracks.

[AzOutcast 122]

I've been dating my girlfriend for a little over a year and when I first met her, she didn't own any film scores or was really aware of it. Guess how many scores she owns now? . . . well, still none. BUT I have introduced her to the likes of Williams and she can certainly appreciate him. I've spent most of my time introducing her to my favorite bands (it's a bit easier) and I figure I'll get her into film scores as we go along.

So far she has taken a liking to Hook, Pan's Labyrinth and Battlestar Galactica.

Not a bad start.

[Quintus 5,399]

^It'll end in tears.

[Luke Skywalker 1,795]

Joy tears

[indy4 155]

It can also be vital to point out that just because you like a certain score, doesn't mean you enjoy the film. That's a common misconception.

[Luke Skywalker 1,795]

It can also be vital to point out that just because you like a certain score, doesn't mean you enjoy the film. That's a common misconception.

Yep.

I have still to listen to 'valley of the dolls' because of that...

And many Roque Baños scores come from very crappy movies and or types of films i really dont have any interest in.

[Melange 446]

and the whole "what sort of music are you into?"

Easy answer. Like Indy, say - "Nocturnal Activities".

[Quintus 5,399]

To which she would reply "is that by Evanescence?"

[Melange 446]

To which she would reply "is that by Evanescence?"

To which you'd reply - "If I have offended you......I am sorry".

[Quintus 5,399]

To which she replies "You're insulting them (her parents) and you're embarrassing me."

[Trent B 337]

Many years ago I was browsing thru the soundtracks sections when I overheard some people talking amongst each other, wondering who was performing on the ID4 soundtrack. I just chuckled to myself.

That reminds me of one of my friends back in high school said to me in class one day, "I just heard the Independence Day soundtrack the other day, it sucks because there are no songs on it!" I just replied with, "Well duh it's an orchestra only score, numb nuts." Since he knew I was into film score soundtracks.

3. Girls, no matter what they look like, like guys who like film music, no matter what they look like. It does help your case if you like other music as well. However it might be in your best interest to get to know someone before you spring something on them they may find strange or geeky.

Sometimes it might help to tell a girl or person that looks at you strangely that film scores are like listening to classical music, in most cases. That's usually followed by an "Oh, ok." You would be suprised at how many women have some sort of orchestral score in their CD collection. More than likely it's a romantic/ love story film score but they do have them. And you would be suprised at the number of women who actually like it once they give it a listen.

Indeed! That is very true right there and you're right most girls will end up having a couple of film score soundtracks in their collection.

When I've talked to some girls and I tell them what type of music I like and what I am mostly into they're all, "oh that's cool I like that stuff too".

[Ollie 1,059]

The comparison is, though extreme, not a million miles away from the way it is. For me at least.

These aren't chubby munster women I'm talking about (women like that are grateful for whatever they get) of course.

I'm also a male chauvinist pig.

I'm talking babes / attractive women.

[Hitch 57]

Mark's dream come true Christ, she has the same chin as me

[Melange 446]

To which she replies "You're insulting them (her parents) and you're embarrassing me."

To which she'd reply - "I have heard the terrible stories of the evil Zimmer cult...I thought the stories were told to frighten girlfriends. Later, I learned that the Zimmer cult was once real and released unspeakable compositions. I am ashamed of what happened here so many years ago. I can assure you, this will never happen again.....with any potential partner".

[Ollie 1,059]

Mark's dream come true Christ, she has the same chin as me

Ewww.......

I'm not the skinniest guy in the world but I have my limits.

[Hitch 57]

To which she replies "You're insulting them (her parents) and you're embarrassing me."

To which she'd reply - "I have heard the terrible stories of the evil Zimmer cult...I thought the stories were told to frighten girlfriends. Later, I learned that the Zimmer cult was once real and released unspeakable compositions. I am ashamed of what happened here so many years ago. I can assure you, this will never happen again.....with any potential partner".

To which I replied - "Get a life, people"

[Trent B 337]

Oh my god... .Hitch I think you just blinded me.

[Hitch 57]

You won't be able to see the crotch shot I've posted over on the trading boards.

[Trent B 337]

I don't think I want to...

[Hitch 57]

The moderators will have a hard thing locating it with all the pubic hair flying around the Octopussy thread.

[Jacob 0]

Titanic is one of them. But there are others, my wife had a few other scores when I met her, and it can be a great ice breaker when it comes to telling a girl the majority of your CDs are film scores.

Dragonheart supposedly appeals to the ladies.

It appeals to a mainstream crowd that includes an interestingly large portion of women, historically, and it does what it can to salvage the film.

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

Whenever the "What kind of music are you into?" question arises, I just say "Well, my tastes welcome the gorgeous orchestral flavors of Williams, the experimental rhythms and harmonies of Goldsmith, the lush strings and melodies of Horner, and the dark and brooding psychological powerhouses of Herrmann".

Quite the ice-breaker, if I might say so.

[Hitch 57]

Now you'll have to find the right woman

[King Mark 3,631]

I'd say something like:

I like types of music that are really specialised and might be considered unusual to some people,like film music. So don't ask me who's on top of the charts now.

[A24 4,338]

When I go out and meet new people I never feel the need to talk about film and music. There are other things in life, you know?

[Mr. Breathmask 555]

I usually try to dodge the question (most of the times doing very poorly at it).

My girlfriend has a few soundtracks, though (the LotR OSTs, A Beautiful Mind, the second Matrix album and the ever-present PotC 1). She really liked the music for Mulan, so I gave her the complete score. She was most pleased.

Now I must teach her to stop labeling it "Disney" and appreciate the greatness that is Jerry Goldsmith.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

bring her to the MB sometime.

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

She really liked the music for Mulan, so I gave her the complete score. She was most pleased.

She has marvelous taste.

[Quintus 5,399]

To which she replies "You're insulting them (her parents) and you're embarrassing me."

To which she'd reply - "I have heard the terrible stories of the evil Zimmer cult...I thought the stories were told to frighten girlfriends. Later, I learned that the Zimmer cult was once real and released unspeakable compositions. I am ashamed of what happened here so many years ago. I can assure you, this will never happen again.....with any potential partner".

To which I replied - "Get a life, people"

Bah, there's always one spoilsport.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

She really liked the music for Mulan, so I gave her the complete score. She was most pleased.

She has marvelous taste.

My girlfriend loves the Titanic song!

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

She really liked the music for Mulan, so I gave her the complete score. She was most pleased.

She has marvelous taste.

My girlfriend loves the Titanic song!

It's a fair starting point.

[A24 4,338]

I would turn around and walk away.

[Elmo Lewis 6]

My last relationship was with a pianist who used to play with Itzhak Perlman, and who'd met Steven Spielberg on several occassions.

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

And yet you are no longer together...