Jacob 0 Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 I'm just not all that interested in a score for a dark fantasy sex comedy, or whatever it is. I haven't seen it.Look, I've yet to really listen to or even hear close to half of the scores Williams has written over the last 10 years:War of the WorldsMunichThe TerminalCatch Me If You CanMinority ReportA.I.Angela's AshesThe Lost WorldLike I already wrote, Eastwick is far down on my list of new scores to familiarize myself with anytime soon.I'm not even all that familiar with many of his all time greats. Though I've been catching up on the Indiana Jones trilogy over the last few weeks. (Yes. I'm referring to them as a trilogy. Bite me.)I've got work to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 Certainly a score I have very little intention of hearing anytime soon.Too bad. It's better than the first two Harry Potter scores.no its not."The Ballroom Scene" and the "Dance of the Witches" alone are vastly superior to anything in either of the two HP scores. Furthermore, WOE was an original score for Williams, versus SS and COS which are nice, but often uninteresting, retreads of The Lost World, Hook, the SW prequels, and WOE. "Harry's Wondrous World" is a beautiful piece, but any score that waits until the end credits to deliver the best it has to offer can't be all that amazing.Sorcerer's Stone is superior to Witches, and Hook. SS isn't a retread of Hook in any form. It is the best score of the 21st century. Witches is a fine score but not a masterpiece.I guess Superman isn't amazing because its best piece the Love Theme is at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpigeon 3 Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 I vote for Dole!Ted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dole 17 Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 Certainly a score I have very little intention of hearing anytime soon.Too bad. It's better than the first two Harry Potter scores.no its not."The Ballroom Scene" and the "Dance of the Witches" alone are vastly superior to anything in either of the two HP scores. Furthermore, WOE was an original score for Williams, versus SS and COS which are nice, but often uninteresting, retreads of The Lost World, Hook, the SW prequels, and WOE. "Harry's Wondrous World" is a beautiful piece, but any score that waits until the end credits to deliver the best it has to offer can't be all that amazing.Sorcerer's Stone is superior to Witches, and Hook. SS isn't a retread of Hook in any form. It is the best score of the 21st century. Witches is a fine score but not a masterpiece.I guess Superman isn't amazing because its best piece the Love Theme is at the end.I'm not saying Witches is a masterpiece. I'm just saying it's better than SS and COS. And SS isn't anywhere close to being the best score of the 21st century. It's not even the best Williams score of the 21st century. It wasn't even the best Williams score of 2001. As far as Superman goes, I think a case could be made by the brave that there are one or two cues in the score before the end credits that are pretty mind-blowingly amazing, beginning with the "Main Title." What cues in SS even come close to the brilliance of "Harry's Wondrous World?" None. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpigeon 3 Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 Certainly a score I have very little intention of hearing anytime soon.Too bad. It's better than the first two Harry Potter scores.no its not."The Ballroom Scene" and the "Dance of the Witches" alone are vastly superior to anything in either of the two HP scores. Furthermore, WOE was an original score for Williams, versus SS and COS which are nice, but often uninteresting, retreads of The Lost World, Hook, the SW prequels, and WOE. "Harry's Wondrous World" is a beautiful piece, but any score that waits until the end credits to deliver the best it has to offer can't be all that amazing.Sorcerer's Stone is superior to Witches, and Hook. SS isn't a retread of Hook in any form. It is the best score of the 21st century. Witches is a fine score but not a masterpiece.I guess Superman isn't amazing because its best piece the Love Theme is at the end.I'm not saying Witches is a masterpiece. I'm just saying it's better than SS and COS. And SS isn't anywhere close to being the best score of the 21st century. It's not even the best Williams score of the 21st century. It wasn't even the best Williams score of 2001.Indeed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 Overall, Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's (Philosopher's) Stone is easily Williams's weakest opening salvo to any movie franchise, but the composer nonetheless rises to the occasion with a distinctive and memorable title theme that ably captures the tone of at least the first few installments of the series: the mischief, the mystery, the (fanciful) malevolence. I definitely recognize "Hedwig's Theme" as a landmark achievement in Williams's career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 Sarcasm again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,798 Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 I dont think he said anything wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 Sarcasm again?Nope, although I'm probably overdue. Frankly, I have pretty mixed feelings about Williams's 2001 scores, but, I have to say (again) that between the two scores, he wrote a set of themes ("Hedwig's Theme" and the themes in A.I. for Monica and the Blue Fairy) that are head and shoulders above anything else he has written this century. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 I guess Superman isn't amazing because its best piece the Love Theme is at the end.Yeah, I wish they'd used the love theme instead of that annoying tune for the Lois and Supes flight scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 You forget his brilliant NFL material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 Which is vastly superior to anything written for film in the 21st century.Ray Barnsbury - who does like it, though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 His "rodeo" NBCNews theme is his best non film score theme recently.I want it released Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 Oh yes, I just came across that on shuffle today. Great piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,435 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 Wow this thread has really derailed from it's original intent!To bring it back on track, Lucas Kendall's liner notes from the expanded ROTLA call the medallion theme, well, the medallion theme, but in the podcast they refer to it as the B section of the Ark Theme. Thoughts?Kendall's notes also refer to a "discovery theme" in both In The Idol's Temple and The Map Room: Dawn (which BTW is a silly title because the scene occurs at 9am not at dawn), but this theme isn't mentioned in the podcast. Thoughts?There's also a recurring theme in both In The Idol's Temple and the unreleased breaking through the wall track.. kinda like an adventure theme or something? That also wasn't discussed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpigeon 3 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 The "discovery theme" is certainly interesting. I never really thought about it before, but it is the same motif. Now how great would it be if he reprised these themes from the next Indy film?Ted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 I'm just not all that interested in a score for a dark fantasy sex comedy, or whatever it is. I haven't seen it.Look, I've yet to really listen to or even hear close to half of the scores Williams has written over the last 10 years:War of the WorldsMunichThe TerminalCatch Me If You CanMinority ReportA.I.Angela's AshesThe Lost WorldLike I already wrote, Eastwick is far down on my list of new scores to familiarize myself with anytime soon.I'm not even all that familiar with many of his all time greats. Though I've been catching up on the Indiana Jones trilogy over the last few weeks. (Yes. I'm referring to them as a trilogy. Bite me.)I've got work to do. :cool:You really do need to take time and listen to those scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 Wow this thread has really derailed from it's original intent!To bring it back on track, Lucas Kendall's liner notes from the expanded ROTLA call the medallion theme, well, the medallion theme, but in the podcast they refer to it as the B section of the Ark Theme. Thoughts?Kendall's notes also refer to a "discovery theme" in both In The Idol's Temple and The Map Room: Dawn (which BTW is a silly title because the scene occurs at 9am not at dawn), but this theme isn't mentioned in the podcast. Thoughts?There's also a recurring theme in both In The Idol's Temple and the unreleased breaking through the wall track.. kinda like an adventure theme or something? That also wasn't discussed...thats the beauty of this place, making sure that threads mutate into something different over pages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 Can anyone tell me where that discoesque Ark Theme piece is from? It sounds like Meco, but I've never known if he's did anything for RAIDERS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,798 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 There's also a recurring theme in both In The Idol's Temple and the unreleased breaking through the wall track.. kinda like an adventure theme or something? That also wasn't discussed...Yep i noticed that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 154 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 Jup that's one of my favorite Indiana Jones themes. It's kind of the whip motif I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob 0 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 I'm just not all that interested in a score for a dark fantasy sex comedy, or whatever it is. I haven't seen it.Look, I've yet to really listen to or even hear close to half of the scores Williams has written over the last 10 years:War of the WorldsMunichThe TerminalCatch Me If You CanMinority ReportA.I.Angela's AshesThe Lost WorldLike I already wrote, Eastwick is far down on my list of new scores to familiarize myself with anytime soon.I'm not even all that familiar with many of his all time greats. Though I've been catching up on the Indiana Jones trilogy over the last few weeks. (Yes. I'm referring to them as a trilogy. Bite me.)I've got work to do. You really do need to take time and listen to those scores.No kidding. But Crystal Skull comes first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalfreakNYC 59 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Can anyone tell me where that discoesque Ark Theme piece is from? It sounds like Meco, but I've never known if he's did anything for RAIDERS.Yup, he did. The Raiders March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 War of the WorldsTake your time getting this one.The TerminalThis one's great!Catch Me If You CanThis one's fantastic!Minority ReportA.I.These are great!The Lost WorldGreat!Like I already wrote, Eastwick is far down on my list of new scores to familiarize myself with anytime soon.I don't think it's fantastic, but it's very unique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestro 147 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Does anyone know why this podcast is not up on the FSM podcast page? I was able to listen to it via the link on the front page of jwfan, but it's still not listed on FSM's site. What's the deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Conspiracy, probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Does anyone know why this podcast is not up on the FSM podcast page? I was able to listen to it via the link on the front page of jwfan, but it's still not listed on FSM's site. What's the deal?Are you using this URL: <http://www.fsmpodcast.libsyn.com/> ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestro 147 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 ^ That's the one on jwfan's main page. But when I log into FSM itself, it's not listed on their Podcast page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 ^ That's the one on jwfan's main page. But when I log into FSM itself, it's not listed on their Podcast page.My guess is that it's an oversight on their part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Or is it?.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Perhaps FSM ninjas broke into the Paramount archives and stole the Temple of Doom master tapes for use in their podcast.Paramount is now exacting its revenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 And they couldn't grab any Star Treks while they were in there? Shoddy ninja work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob 0 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Who says they couldn't? The FACT is they DID NOT!!! They went in specifically for a Williams score. Nothing more, nothing less. Proving once and for all that he really is the greatest composer ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted April 24, 2008 Author Share Posted April 24, 2008 6 pages. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 I don't know whether to laugh or cry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 6 pages without it being about the Z word. I'll go for laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob 0 Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 Marc should add the Z word to the filter. Have it replaced with Goldsmith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted April 24, 2008 Author Share Posted April 24, 2008 Do you really want an entire board filled with "Goldsmith sucks"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob 0 Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 I reckon it would be about half and half. Everyone praising Zimmer would now be praising Goldsmith and vice versa.Just a recommendation for when things get a little slow around here, that's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 I know.lets put "John williams " in the word filter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 Marc should add the Z word to the filter. Have it replaced with Goldsmith.Hm. I should then have every mention of Goldsmith replaced with the Z word.Just for a laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob 0 Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 And Williams with Giacchino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delorean90 42 Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 This must happen. If nothing else, it would be a great April Fools joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 I'd just sit back and watch the fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 This must happen. If nothing else, it would be a great Star Wars Day joke.It's been done.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 ZimmerZimmerithZimmsmithZildsmithGoldsmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob 0 Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 Jerry ZimmerHans GoldsmithJohn GiacchinoMichael Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 I sense an idea for April 1, 2009 already in the works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 Yes, it's all coming together.......muwahhahahahahahahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,798 Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 Hey guys just wait till next year, its no use overhypping about the april's fool.It will came when it does.Live with it.I couldnt help it Really how many posts about this matter?I rather talk about indy IV. or unreleased Indy scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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