Man Of Steel (2013 Superman reboot directed by Zack Snyder)

[Hlao-roo 389]

I don't think Ottman was even mentioned in this thread.

By not mentioning him, people were implicitly slamming him.

[Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488]

Williams' music sounds bad in Superman Returns. Other composers just can not pull it off. Ken Thorne and Courage didn't win me over, either. I mean, IV does have some alright cues.

Only one man can score Superman.

[Red 75]

Only one man can score Superman.

While that's certainly false, you'd be hard-pressed to find someone who could do better than JW. It's certainly possible, especially considering this different take on the character (how different remains to be seen), but it probably ain't Zimmer.

[Datameister 2,043]

Alexandre Desplat would bring the perfect delicacy and nuance to Supes' character!

[Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488]

Sounds like absolute shit.

[BLUMENKOHL 1,068]

Yeah but you snuggle with inanimate Star Wars products for photos...so.....

[Quintus 5,399]

To be fair, he's no Trent.

[crocodile 8,013]

Williams' music sounds bad in Superman Returns. Other composers just can not pull it off. Ken Thorne and Courage didn't win me over, either. I mean, IV does have some alright cues.

Only one man can score Superman.

At this point it's safe to say: no one can. At least not the way you'd like.

Karol

[Quintus 5,399]

I thought Williams' music in SR sounded fine.

[Faleel 5,348]

My Superman Score Ranking:

1: Superman: The Movie

2: Superman IV

3: Superman Returns

4: Superman II & III

[Ollie 1,059]

Alexander Courage and Ken Thorne did an outstanding job with Williams' music.

Frankly it doesn't matter with the new film. Unless a composer, who has the chops (and the power to do what he/she wants) to pull it off gets assigned, it's going to be the typical, modern, contemporary wall paper that grace most action movies these days.

[BLUMENKOHL 1,068]

I don't think even Williams can score Superman today to any of your expectations. Times change, brains change, even Johnny.

And if daddy himself can't, who can?

[Faleel 5,348]

Its gonna be me! its my destiny!!.....not!

[Ollie 1,059]

I wouldn't want Williams to revisit Superman. Sadly the one person I would love to see score Superman is no longer with us. I'm sure she would have done something good.

[BLUMENKOHL 1,068]

I wouldn't want Williams to revisit Superman. Sadly the one person I would love to see score Superman is no longer with us. I'm sure she would have done something good.

Aye.

[Charlie Brigden 7]

Sadly the one person I would love to see score Superman is no longer with us. I'm sure she would have done something good.

Agreed. It'd be nice if her existing work for the man of steel could be released.

[Ollie 1,059]

Hopefully LaLaLand might have something in the works.

[Faleel 5,348]

I wouldn't want Williams to revisit Superman. Sadly the one person I would love to see score Superman is no longer with us. I'm sure she would have done something good.

did i miss something?

[Jay 37,364]

Shirley Walker

[nightscape94 965]

I say this with weight around my heart, but you can't drag Williams' Superman music into this. The project should have it's own life, and the director/crew should not have to feel an obligation to include it. They have the right to do their own thing. Superman existed before 1978.

Most of us think of Superman flying with Williams' music floating around in our heads. It's the association we grew up with, and how we identify the character. It's that way for me, nothing can change that. It's not the director's fault that the theme is so ingrained in pop culture. Turn the page.

Tim

[Charlie Brigden 7]

I'd happily let Hansy rape JW's musical corpse to his heart's content if it meant we got a director who doesn't suck as much as Zack Snyder.

[Quintus 5,399]

Get Abram's to direct it and Howard Shore to score it.

[Charlie Brigden 7]

Get Abram's to direct it and Howard Shore to score it.

Considering a main part of Abrams' previous Superman script was that Krypton had not been destroyed, I'm not sure that's a good idea.

[Quintus 5,399]

A reboot must be absolute.

[Red 75]

Apparently Zimmer is not actually scoring this:

http://www.slashfilm.com/hans-zimmer-scoring-zack-snyders-superman-2/

[Jay 37,364]

Yes, we've been talking about that since the last page.

[lonzoe 18]

Apparently Zimmer is not actually scoring this:

http://www.slashfilm.com/hans-zimmer-scoring-zack-snyders-superman-2/

Good news now Snyder needs to GTHO.

[A24 4,333]

Apparently Zimmer is not actually scoring this:

http://www.slashfilm.com/hans-zimmer-scoring-zack-snyders-superman-2/

I knew this wasn't going to happen!

Apparently Ben Affleck was also considered for directing the new Superman.

Ben Affleck explains Why He Passed On Directing Superman

"With 'Superman,' I think they’re going to do a great version. Chris Nolan is brilliant and they’ve got a great director for it. I’ve love to do something like 'Blade Runner,' but a lesson I’ve learned is to not look at movies based on budget, how much they’ll spend on effects, or where they will shoot. Story is what’s important. Also, there are a lot of guys ahead of me on the list to do epic effects movies."

Alex

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Zimmer knows it's gonna be a pretty thankless task. If he uses Williams theme he's gonna get shit for it, if he disregards it he's also gonna take shit for it.

Whoever is getting the job, it's won't be anyone we will like though....

[Koray Savas 2,251]

JW's theme won't be used no matter what. I thought this was known the second WB started talking about a Superman reboot.

[A24 4,333]

Trust me, Steef, there's a whole world out there who doesn't give a fuck about the music or John Williams. Anyway, Zimmer is not going to do it and I'm glad my instincts were right.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Yes and whatever composer is going to score this is gonna have to take flack for not using the theme, even though it is in no way, shape or form his descision.

[Charlie Brigden 7]

Ben Affleck is a pretty terrible actor.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

No, he's just Ben Affleck.

[A24 4,333]

Since Hollywoodland (where he plays George Reeves who played Superman on TV), I'm convinced Ben Affleck is a pretty good actor. Anyway, I hear he's a respected director these days.

[Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488]

I think Affleck is underrated. Or, overly criticized. I mean, he's a decent actor given the right material. I liked him in that Hollywoodland movie.

[Quintus 5,399]

He used to have an annoying face. Lately I don't think that.

[Koray Savas 2,251]

He's definitely better than he used to be.

[Charlie Brigden 7]

He used to have an annoying face. Lately I don't think that.

Maybe because it's behind a camera?

[Naïve Old Fart 9,528]

Affleck is rather good in "Changing Lanes", but then, so is everyone.

[crocodile 8,013]

I don't care who's directing/writing/scoring this movie. Give me a good one though!

Karol

[A24 4,333]

I still don't think the present world is waiting for a hero like Supes. I wonder if Nolan and Snyder are realizing this. It's all very iffy. In fact, you can almost call it bold and daring.

Alex

[Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488]

No one really gets it. Donner and co. seemed to with Superman: The Movie. Since then, there was a goofier take in Superman II, Superman III, which absolutely sucked balls and was largely focused on the Richard Pryor character (who the hell's idea was this??), Superman IV, the low-budget really damn poorly-made and childish take on Superman, with some kind of attempt to teach kids about the dangers of the nuclear arms race (???). In the 2000s, Superman became a boring melodrama with all the fun effectively sucked right out of it.

[crocodile 8,013]

I think they just need to get back to the comic book. Even the current incarnations on the paper seem more interesting than what we're getting on screen. I'm not saying there's a masterpiece there, but there are interesting ideas. I hope they did their research.

For example there was a story where Superman had to battle a today's violent superheroes (it was called What's So Funny About Truth, Justice and The American Way?) and find his way in the modern world (something that SR promised in its synopsis). The Birthright origin is interesting. Or the Grant Morrison All-Star Superman. Though that last one was adapted for an

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Karol - who wanted to love Superman Returns, but what he ended up loving is the making of doc.

[A24 4,333]

Whawowa! I've just heard that Snyder completely trashed Goyer's script and that Nolan is no longer producing it. Now that's my dog! (If it's true, of course. Now I gotta find something that backs it up)

Alex

[Koray Savas 2,251]

You just love deepthroating Snyder, don't you?

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Please don't be so rude!

[Charlie Brigden 7]

Whawowa! I've just heard that Snyder completely trashed Goyer's script and that Nolan is no longer producing it. Now that's my dog! (If it's true, of course. Now I gotta find something that backs it up)

Alex

Yeah, Nolan is off the picture. This has been confirmed. Not sure about the script.

[A24 4,333]

Apparently it's been reported by hitfixs. It would make so much sense to me if Nolan and Goyer are out. If this is true, then there won't be any new Superman movie coming soon ... which is fine by me.

[Richard Penna 3,690]

Save everyone lots of trouble (and this board from certain nuclear meltdown): don't make the damn thing at all.