crocodile 8,020 Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 Which reminds me. I have to finish Dark City. I've seen 20 minutes and it can still go either way (in terms of quality). The version I've got is Director's Cut. Is it drastically different from the original?Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,211 Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 I haven't seen the DC yet, but apparently, one major difference is that you weren't spoiled right at the beginning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 You're probably right Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,348 Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 I always liked THE CROW. Some of it was a tad annoying, but the mix of genre actors and the stylized look made it feel a lot more like a comic book than most comic book movies I've seen, in a good way.I've just seen it for the first time and to me it felt like an amazingly dated B-movie made by a student. There was nothing about it that I liked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 Clearly you're not a supporter of David Patrick Kelly's ouvre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,348 Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 I haven't seen Knowing but for now Dark City is his best effort. But I think it really is quite impressive, Blade Runner and Metropolis wannabe though it is. Saw I Love You, Man (2009). Forgettable, but I enjoyed it. Needed much more J.K. Simmons. And Needed to give Rashida Jones more to do. I might have posted about this a couple of days ago...but at last I saw Coraline (2009). Regular projection. I didn't quite love it...I'm a huge Neil Gaiman fan, and the story felt like it was missing a bit of meat (though what's there is prime). But the film is rather intoxicating. First film I'm looking forward to seeing in 3D. Stop-motion is ideal for the 3D treatment, and this one is so rich in detail, I can imagine it might be the first wholly immersive 3D experiece. Great design, and generally a good job of expanding the book (even though the main character is somewhat undercut). Really liked Bruno Coulais' Elfman-esque score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,211 Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 The only score I know by Coulais is Les rivières pourpres, and that's excellent. I should hear more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 I haven't seen Knowing but for now Dark City is his best effort. But I think it really is quite impressive, Blade Runner and Metropolis wannabe though it is.From what I understand it's the precursor to The Matrix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QMM 4 Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 The Matrix used sets from Dark City (and they're still up at the Fox Studios Sydney lot) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,348 Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 The number 23: One of the most silly movies I've seen in a long time. Did Jim Carrey really think he was making another Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind with this garbage? After movies like Batman And Robin and The Number 23, how can Joel Schumacher still have a job?Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 The only decent Schumacher flick I've seen is Phone Booth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 No he's made other good ones, but hes so god damned unreliable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 No...he's generally pretty reliable. He's never met a script he couldn't make worse. That includes Phone Booth, Tigerland and (the overrated) Falling Down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 His best comedy was Batman & Robin. He vos just breaking da ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,348 Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 No...he's generally pretty reliable. He's never met a script he couldn't make worse. That includes Phone Booth, Tigerland and (the overrated) Falling Down.Phone Booth was perfect material for Sidney Lumet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 I did not think that A Time to Kill was bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Man On Fire on BluWarming up for Pelham 123 this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Captain Blood and The Adventures of Robin Hood were both on TCM today, on a tribute to their director marathon. I didn't get to see them both in their entirety, but I did see the majority of both. I had no idea how good they are. I've got to keep my eyes open for them on DVD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Yes, I saw them too (well, Captain Blood anyways, I have The Adventures of Robin Hood practically memorized already). I enjoyed the film quite a bit, though it took me half the film to adjust to Errol Flynn's hairstyle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 So how about those green tights? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Man On Fire on BluWarming up for Pelham 123 this weekend. ...warming up for how terrible it's going to be? It looks absolutely horrendous. Saw The Brothers Bloom (2009). Pacing, pacing, pacing. That's where this film lost me. The first three quarters were absolutely tremendous. I thought I'd found a new favorite. It was bubbling with enthusiasm and creativity. But then there was a really crushing gear change, and it didn't get me back until the last couple of minutes of the film. The first three quarters still make me kinda love it, though. Maybe in time I'll get the rest of it. Good performances by all. I didn't feel like it was too Wes Anderson, save for the Cat Stevens track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 I enjoy my Tony Scott!As for The Brothers Bloom, I'm just glad someone here besides me saw it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Captain Blood and The Adventures of Robin Hood were both on TCM today, on a tribute to their director marathon. I didn't get to see them both in their entirety, but I did see the majority of both. I had no idea how good they are. I've got to keep my eyes open for them on DVD.they are much better than many films today, and in the case of the Adventures of Robin Hood, better than anything thats come out in 2009.Captain Blood's battle scenes are top notch.Captain Blood and The Adventures of Robin Hood were both on TCM today, on a tribute to their director marathon. I didn't get to see them both in their entirety, but I did see the majority of both. I had no idea how good they are. I've got to keep my eyes open for them on DVD.they are much better than many films today, and in the case of the Adventures of Robin Hood, better than anything thats come out in 2009.Captain Blood's battle scenes are top notch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Pish posh, the music by Korngold is way too fancy, melodic, relies too much on leitmotif principles, and just plain gets in the way of me just wanting to watch the damn movie without aural distractions. We need Remote Control to re-score it with unobtrusive and standardized stock music to suck any obtrusive identity away that this score might have thought it had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 While I understand you are being facetious, Drax, I have to say that I think Korngold had the tendency, along with many other "Golden Age" composers, to over-score films, the two aforementioned films being no exception. The music was not bad, but it could be a bit over-bearing at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 While I understand you are being facetious, Drax, I have to say that I think Korngold had the tendency, along with many other "Golden Age" composers, to over-score films, the two aforementioned films being no exception. The music was not bad, but it could be a bit over-bearing at times.I agree, melodrama and operatic style cinema should never be accentuated by late-Romantic idioms... ever!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Definatly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 While I understand you are being facetious, Drax, I have to say that I think Korngold had the tendency, along with many other "Golden Age" composers, to over-score films, the two aforementioned films being no exception. The music was not bad, but it could be a bit over-bearing at times.I agree, melodrama and operatic style cinema should never be accentuated by late-Romantic idioms... ever!!I was just saying that I would have preferred a more conservative approach to the music. No need to get aggressive.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 I fell asleep towards the end of Duel last night. Pretty good flick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 You should be glad, I personally get depressed every time I see the ending. I agree, though, a great foreshadowing of wonderful things to come from Steven Spielberg. Though I am happy with being a teenager, sometimes I wish I was born a lot earlier so I could follow the career of directors like Steven Spielberg.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Pish posh, the music by Korngold is way too fancy, melodic, relies too much on leitmotif principles, and just plain gets in the way of me just wanting to watch the damn movie without aural distractions. We need Remote Control to re-score it with unobtrusive and standardized stock music to suck any obtrusive identity away that this score might have thought it had.Well you're gonna get that since Ridley Scott is directing Robin Hood (2009). I'm interested to see what Marc Streitenfeld comes up with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 ...Wait, another Robin Hood film!? To Google.com, I go!EDIT: Russel Crowe as Robin Hood? So unsurprising, yet so disappointing.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Pish posh, the music by Korngold is way too fancy, melodic, relies too much on leitmotif principles, and just plain gets in the way of me just wanting to watch the damn movie without aural distractions. We need Remote Control to re-score it with unobtrusive and standardized stock music to suck any obtrusive identity away that this score might have thought it had.Well you're gonna get that since Ridley Scott is directing Robin Hood (2009). I'm interested to see what Marc Streitenfeld comes up with.Hopefully another film score with no identifiable personality of its own. Just the way I like it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,348 Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Lord Of War: Sorry Morlock, but I didn't really like it. The words were often intelligently written but I just couldn't care for it all. It was a voiceover overload (to glue everything together, I'm sure), there was the cliché screwed up brother but with a moral voice, the film's obvious message (typical for Andrew Niccol) which sometimes popped its head up at the wrong time, the waisted characters of the wife and Ian Holm, the overall lack of drama. I just checked Rotten Tomatoes to see if I was losing it, but fortunately most critics had problems with it. Yes, it was watchable but ultimately unremarkable.Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Lord Of War: Sorry Morlock, but I didn't really like it. The words were often intelligently written but I just couldn't care for it all. It was a voiceover overload (to glue everything together, I'm sure), there was the cliché screwed up brother but with a moral voice, the film's obvious message (typical for Andrew Niccol) which sometimes popped its head up at the wrong time, the waisted characters of the wife and Ian Holm, the overall lack of drama. I just checked Rotten Tomatoes to see if I was losing it, but fortunately most critics had problems with it. Yes, it was watchable but ultimately unremarkable.AlexIt was drowning in it's own aren't-we-ironic-little-bastards mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Sounds like every other flimsy come-and-go Nicholas Cage bore-a-thon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Pish posh, the music by Korngold is way too fancy, melodic, relies too much on leitmotif principles, and just plain gets in the way of me just wanting to watch the damn movie without aural distractions. We need Remote Control to re-score it with unobtrusive and standardized stock music to suck any obtrusive identity away that this score might have thought it had.Well you're gonna get that since Ridley Scott is directing Robin Hood (2009). I'm interested to see what Marc Streitenfeld comes up with.He hasn't come up with anything interesting so far, at least for Scott's movie. His music was serviceable, but forgettable. Why Scott doesn't work with Hans anymore is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,348 Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Hans is too expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 The clones have access to his stock music anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Are you completely sure it's the music? Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Captain Blood and The Adventures of Robin Hood were both on TCM today, on a tribute to their director marathon. I didn't get to see them both in their entirety, but I did see the majority of both. I had no idea how good they are. I've got to keep my eyes open for them on DVD.they are much better than many films today, and in the case of the Adventures of Robin Hood, better than anything thats come out in 2009.Captain Blood's battle scenes are top notch.I'm interested in buying the score to either. I see some re-arrangements and/or condensed versions of Captain Blood at SAE for inexpensive, which I might buy. Is there a complete score available?Also, when choosing to buy the score to The Adventures of Robin Hood, which is the better plan? Buy this 43 minute CD album (http://www.screenarchives.com/title_detail.cfm?ID=9291), or buy the two-disc DVD set with the isolated score, and rip it myself? I might buy the DVD anyways, because I missed the beginning of the film, and Prince John gives such a delicious performance as villain that it deserves to be watched again, but I want to know if the CD album contains anything the iso score doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 The Varese is a re-recording. I was going to recommend the complete recording done by William Stromberg & John Morgan on the Marco Polo label but it sadly seems to have already gone out of print. Perhaps Naxos will re-issue it on their cheaper label.http://www.moviemusic.com/soundtrack/adven...sofrobinhood-mp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 I saw a 2004 issue on the Membran label for $24.99 but it claims the condition is acceptable. It's the same cover art as the 1997 Tsunami seen at SoundtrackCollector, but even with a run time of 78:06, I'm wary of "acceptable." Acceptable is ok for $15 but not $27 after shipping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Pish posh, the music by Korngold is way too fancy, melodic, relies too much on leitmotif principles, and just plain gets in the way of me just wanting to watch the damn movie without aural distractions. We need Remote Control to re-score it with unobtrusive and standardized stock music to suck any obtrusive identity away that this score might have thought it had.Well you're gonna get that since Ridley Scott is directing Robin Hood (2009). I'm interested to see what Marc Streitenfeld comes up with.He hasn't come up with anything interesting so far, at least for Scott's movie. His music was serviceable, but forgettable. Why Scott doesn't work with Hans anymore is beyond me.You kidding? He's a 3 for 3 in my opinion. His score for A Good Year wasn't anything special really, but it had some nice moments, especially considering that it was only 20 minutes long. Others may not be able to tell, but he already has a sound of his own. Very subtle music, with some great underlying themes.Well I guess yeah, he is somewhat forgettable. But I feel Robin Hood will be his big break. Since he really can't use his subtle synth style for it like he did for American Gangster and Body Of Lies, I'm wondering if he is going to compose something more grand and large.I too don't understand why Ridley Scott doesn't use Zimmer anymore. I know Zimmer couldn't compose Kingdom Of Heaven because of scheduling. I think that was a good thing, since it allowed Harry Gregson-Williams to compose his best score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Sounds like every other flimsy come-and-go Nicholas Cage bore-a-thon.It's not good, but it's definitely way better than most of his recent films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Pish posh, the music by Korngold is way too fancy, melodic, relies too much on leitmotif principles, and just plain gets in the way of me just wanting to watch the damn movie without aural distractions. We need Remote Control to re-score it with unobtrusive and standardized stock music to suck any obtrusive identity away that this score might have thought it had.Well you're gonna get that since Ridley Scott is directing Robin Hood (2009). I'm interested to see what Marc Streitenfeld comes up with.He hasn't come up with anything interesting so far, at least for Scott's movie. His music was serviceable, but forgettable. Why Scott doesn't work with Hans anymore is beyond me.You kidding? He's a 3 for 3 in my opinion. His score for A Good Year wasn't anything special really, but it had some nice moments, especially considering that it was only 20 minutes long. Others may not be able to tell, but he already has a sound of his own. Very subtle music, with some great underlying themes.Well I guess yeah, he is somewhat forgettable. But I feel Robin Hood will be his big break. Since he really can't use his subtle synth style for it like he did for American Gangster and Body Of Lies, I'm wondering if he is going to compose something more grand and large.Hopefully, however, he should have proved his value already. After having Goldsmith, Vangelis, Zimmer and even Gregson-Williams by his side, choosing Streitenfeld to be his composer is an odd choice on the part of Scott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,348 Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Sounds like every other flimsy come-and-go Nicholas Cage bore-a-thon.It's not good, but it's definitely way better than most of his recent films.Yep, it beats Ghost Rider without even trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Lord Of War: Sorry Morlock, but I didn't really like it. The words were often intelligently written but I just couldn't care for it all. It was a voiceover overload (to glue everything together, I'm sure), there was the cliché screwed up brother but with a moral voice, the film's obvious message (typical for Andrew Niccol) which sometimes popped its head up at the wrong time, the waisted characters of the wife and Ian Holm, the overall lack of drama. I just checked Rotten Tomatoes to see if I was losing it, but fortunately most critics had problems with it. Yes, it was watchable but ultimately unremarkable.Alex Oh well, to each his own. I absolutely loved it. I know a lot of people didn't like it. David Denby is one of the few critics who really liked it (I think Stephanie Zacharek and Ebert were the only others), and his review just about perfectly captured my opinions regarding the film. Just saw Midnight (1939) at the cinematheque. Directed by Mitchell Leison, written by Charles Bracket and Billy Wilder, starring Claudette Colbert, John Barrymore, and a remarkably young Don Ameche. Brilliant romantic comedy. I laughed long, hard and often. One of the richest comedy screenplays I think I've ever seen filmed. Almost no real clunkers. I loved, loved, loved this film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Crimson Tide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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