David Arnold is writing a song for Shirley Bassey (No Good About Goodbye)

[Neimoidian 14]

According to this page http://www.dameshirleybassey.com/ and Arnold's website, he has been currently working with Bassey on a new album, to be released in autumn. I am looking forward to this.

[Luke Skywalker 1,798]

lets hope he like the esperience and she returns to the bond franchise

That would also mean that the song will be composed by arnold and perfectly integrated on the score which would be also great.

[Ollie 1,059]

Unfortunately, from a marketing standpoint, a Shirley Bassey sung Bond song would not be the choice of the studio.

[Wycket 36]

You never know. They could hype that the woman who sang Goldfinger is coming back, which might attract some older fans who have left the franchise. Retro is the thing, ya know?

[Hitch 57]

Unfortunately, from a marketing standpoint, a Shirley Bassey sung Bond song would not be the choice of the studio.

Ye of little faith.

[Neimoidian 14]

Unfortunately, from a marketing standpoint, a Shirley Bassey sung Bond song would not be the choice of the studio.

Unfortunately.

[Mr. Breathmask 555]

I don't care who sings it, as long as Arnold gets to write the theme so the song and score form a musical unity (see: You Know My Name, The World Is Not Enough and Surrender).

- Marc, who just realized he needs to listen to TND again - because it's awesome.

[Kendal_Ozzel 36]

Shirley Bassey’s No Good About Goodbye sparks Solace comparisons

I love this. Whether it was actually written for QoS or not (although it certainly seems to have been), I'm sticking it in the place of "Another Way to Die" right now.

[Luke Skywalker 1,798]

it certainly sees to be a rejected song for qos. shame

i think im going to put it as the actual song in my ipod...

[Neimoidian 14]

I don't think it's rejected. I believe Arnold and Don Black simply used the opportunity to write QoS-inspired song for Bassey and - possibly - to show the producers what they would have got, if they hadn't hired Jack White.

[ChrisAfonso 188]

This really sounds good and would have been an athmospheric intro to the film. Yeah, the melody isn't the catchiest one, but the mood of the whole thing is right, and the thematic hook provides a connection with the score proper.

Stylistically it's quite safe, unlike YKMN, perhaps that's why the producers rejected it... pity though.

[crocodile 8,027]

It wouldn't fit the tone of the film anyway. The song itself is nice, but, to be honest, it does sound like a fan fetish, more of a tribute than its own thing.

Karol

[Neimoidian 14]

It wouldn't fit the tone of the film anyway. The song itself is nice, but, to be honest, it does sound like a fan fetish, more of a tribute than its own thing.

Karol

Indeed.

[Luke Skywalker 1,798]

does the actual film song fit...or something else would be preferable?

[Wycket 36]

"Another Way to Die" is horrible and nearly anything would be better. While "No Good About Goodbye" isn't nearly as good as Arnold's rejected "Surrender", I think its a decent song that's elevated by Bassey's inclusion.

[ChrisAfonso 188]

That's the point, the actual film song sounds clumsy to me... Trying to have that groovy Bond feeling with brass etc., but failing to know how to really employ these things. The only thing that really catches my attention in this song is the bridge with the buildup in the latter half of the song.

[Henry B 50]

It wouldn't fit the tone of the film anyway. The song itself is nice, but, to be honest, it does sound like a fan fetish, more of a tribute than its own thing.

Karol

Indeed.

Yeah, it's Arnold doing Arnold. Very stale sounding. I like "Another Way To Die."

[Neimoidian 14]

It wouldn't fit the tone of the film anyway. The song itself is nice, but, to be honest, it does sound like a fan fetish, more of a tribute than its own thing.

Karol

Indeed.

Yeah, it's Arnold doing Arnold. Very stale sounding. I like "Another Way To Die."

To my ears it's more like Arnold emulating Barry. I prefer his more "personal" and - as far as Bond franchise is concerned - his more contemporary voice - You Know My Name would be a good example of a very solid Bond song which doesn't pretend to be second Goldfinger of DAF.

EDIT:

If I got it correctly, looks like David Arnold confirmed that while NGAG had been his idea for the main title song, he actually hadn't written anything (apart from the opening melody) before Jack White got the job. So, in other words, the song has never been rejected per se.

[Charlie Brigden 7]

It wouldn't fit the tone of the film anyway. The song itself is nice, but, to be honest, it does sound like a fan fetish, more of a tribute than its own thing.

Karol

Indeed.

Yeah, it's Arnold doing Arnold. Very stale sounding. I like "Another Way To Die."

Me too. I think people have it in their heads that all 007 songs need to sound like Barry, like Star Wars fans thinking the films have to be "dark" to be good.

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

like Star Wars fans thinking the films have to be "dark" to be good.

They're insecure because they like kids' movies.

[fommes 154]

Wow, nice surprise - and I like the song a lot so I will be integrating it into the score itself as well.

The official song "Another way to die" is just that I'm afraid, another way to die.

[Ollie 1,059]

While Arnold and Bassey's song is much better than the crap that White came up with, it doesn't fit with the style of the film.

Of course I still find the score and film for QOS to be a massive letdown after Casino Royale.

[Luke Skywalker 1,798]

I think that if NGNG had been the real song, people would have not complained THAT much and many would love the return of barryesque songs. (people love Casino royale's and the world is not enogh barryesque loves themes right?) if jack white song had surfaced now as a rejected song, everyone would be saying 'CRAP!'

[Henry B 50]

Does the moniker "Barryesque" make the song good? Barry influence or not, it's utterly devoid of character or relevance to the film. Maybe "Another Way to Die" would be more appreciated if Arnold had incorporated it into the score (okay, he did, but not very much). That instrumental bridge is full of adaptable music.

[Luke Skywalker 1,798]

Does the moniker "Barryesque" make the song good? Barry influence or not, it's utterly devoid of character or relevance to the film. Maybe "Another Way to Die" would be more appreciated if Arnold had incorporated it into the score (okay, he did, but not very much). That instrumental bridge is full of adaptable music.

like most not-composed-by-the-composer-of-the-filmscore songs

[Henry B 50]

So? It works. Good Will Hunting, for example, more or less belongs to two composers: Danny Elfman and Elliot Smith. Elfman wrote the orchestral score, yes, but Smith's music is just as important a presence in the film. I believe Elfman orchestrated one of his songs. It took two people, and that's fine with me.

[Luke Skywalker 1,798]

i meant just the bond scores, where the non-composer songs have no relation with the score.

[Kendal_Ozzel 36]

I don't hate "Another Way to Die", but I just don't like it much. I wish it had a more interesting melody in the chorus. And I cringe every time I hear that obnoxious WHOA-OOOO-OOOOO-OOOOOO-OOOOO-OOOOAAAAA scream; they're both talented singers, so I'm sure they're hitting the right notes... it just sounds off somehow.

[Bryant Burnette 654]

I don't hate "Another Way to Die", but I just don't like it much. I wish it had a more interesting melody in the chorus. And I cringe every time I hear that obnoxious WHOA-OOOO-OOOOO-OOOOOO-OOOOO-OOOOAAAAA scream; they're both talented singers, so I'm sure they're hitting the right notes... it just sounds off somehow.

It's pretty embarrassing. I like certain sections of the song, but that damn sure ain't one of 'em.

Haven't heard the Bassey/Arnold song yet, but it sounds cool to me.

[BurgaFlippinMan 7]

on a side note, Bassey's new album also features a song written by John Barry

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Who?

[MattyO 62]

I downloaded No Good About Goodbye and programmed it between Time To Get Out and The Palio and it makes so much sense! The song fits Arnold's score like a glove. Fantastic!

[Neimoidian 14]

Who?

Probably some contemporary pop artist.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

I like the song better the AWTD.

[Neimoidian 14]

I like the song better the AWTD.

Me too. I can only wish that the refrain melody had been incorporated into the score.

[BurgaFlippinMan 7]

by the way, is the bond theme used in QoS' end credits tracked from Casino Royale?

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

No, though the arrangement is similar

[Bryant Burnette 654]

Finally heard "No Good About Goodbye." About halfway through, I realized that I would probably always, from that point forward, think of it as the "real" theme song for Quantum of Solace.

That said, I don't think it would actually have fit the movie. The soundtrack album, yes, definitely (and I'll be doing what many others are probably doing, adding it into my own personal playlist for the soundtrack in place of "Another Way to Die"); but the movie, no. "Another Way to die" ain't much of a song, but it's at least got the right energy to flow from that frantic opening scene into the film proper. "No Good But Goodbye," despite being a vastly better song, would seem out of place, at least to my ears.

Over the end credits, though...? Woulda been perfect.

Now, granted, Arnold has denied that it was a rejected Bond song, and I see no reason to disbelieve him. That doesn't change the fact that, whenever it was composed, performed, and released, it IS a Bond song, if in spirit only. The fact that Arnold wrote it, and Bassey sung it, well, that's good enough for me. Maybe at some point in the future it'll be good enough for the producers again.

[Koray Savas 2,251]

Sorry if that has been discussed before, but I don't recall and I figured this is as good a place as any. Did you know Shirley was rejected for Quantum Of Solace? I mean, seriously? I found this out a month ago or so.

This song kicks all kinds of ass.

[romantico 0]

WOW! Thank you for psoting that video. Never heard it before but that song was awesome. What a shame they rejected it. It would have been the best thing about the movie. I hope for SKYFALL they get either Adelle or Micheal Buble (or even Seth Macfarlane) to sing the vocals. Then again, I think they should ask Shirley again.

Anyone know if they plan on re-releasing the soundtracks? Mine need to be upgraded badly. I think all my Bond soundtracks date back to the late 90's

[Jay 37,415]

Moved posts to the thread for the song

[Sharkissimo 1,973]

Sorry if that has been discussed before, but I don't recall and I figured this is as good a place as any. Did you know Shirley was rejected for Quantum Of Solace? I mean, seriously? I found this out a month ago or so.

Another dreary, dull, pretend-Barry dirge from DA. As bad as Another Way To Die was, at least it's got some life and energy to it.

BTW - Arnold wrote the song after QOS, taking the 6 note motif he came up with for the film. It wasn't rejected.

[Brónach 1,302]

For some reason, I find that six note motif to be very satisfying.

[Sharkissimo 1,973]

I like it too. It just the melody and arrangement around it is dissapointing. It doesnt go anwhere.

Shirley did a good job though.

[Score_Fan 36]

I like it. I even enjoyed the actual title song, and score with it.

Although I'm excited for Newman on Skyfall, I'm still a tad bummed Arnold couldn't finish a "trilogy" for craig's bond.

[Jay 37,415]

I'm still a tad bummed Arnold couldn't finish a "trilogy" for craig's bond.

Totally agreed

[Faleel 5,375]

I bet Newmans score will be to Bond, what Rosenmans score was to Star Trek.

[Jay 37,415]

You do realize most James Bond scores were scored by John Barry and not David Arnold, right?

[Sharkissimo 1,973]

I bet Newmans score will be to Bond, what Rosenmans score was to Star Trek.

A breath of fresh air after James Horner/David Arnold?

[Faleel 5,375]

Depends on who you are.

(I like Rosenmans Trek score)