Greg1138 3 Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 Hollywood Reporter is - erm - reporting that Mr Kate Winslet is on the verge of signing........Your thoughts, please?Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,544 Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 Already? Give us some time with Craig first, he's doing a great job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissPadmé 17 Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 Already? Give us some time with Craig first, he's doing a great job!they just hire Mr. Mendes as a director i suppose since that's it what he does for a living - they won't replace Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,544 Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 Haha, okay that makes more sense. I've never actually heard of Mendes. Thanks for the clarification! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 He might cast his wife in it so she can appear in the nuddy again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurgaFlippinMan 7 Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 I predict its going to be the best looking Bond film ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg1138 3 Posted January 6, 2010 Author Share Posted January 6, 2010 Personally I have difficulty imagining Mendes handling action blockbuster type setpieces...but at the same time I don't believe he is capable of making a bad film. If this turns out to be the way things go, well, should make for an interesting experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,013 Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 Bond movies aren't "director's movies" so it doesn't really matter who's doing it.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 Then give Roger Christian a go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 It'd be a shame that Thomas Newman wouldn't be able to score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maglorfin 196 Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 Two interesting questions: do you guys think that David Arnold - seen as how he's been with the franchise for 13 years now - is now an "eternal" 007 composer which will never be replaced by producers and will only stop writing if he personally ever decides to?And the second one: which composer do you think would write the best Bond soundtrack at the moment? Not who would you personally prefer to write it, but who would do it most perfectly? (I'm thinking Michael Giacchino.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 Two interesting questions: do you guys think that David Arnold - seen as how he's been with the franchise for 13 years now - is now an "eternal" 007 composer which will never be replaced by producers and will only stop writing if he personally ever decides to?And the second one: which composer do you think would write the best Bond soundtrack at the moment? Not who would you personally prefer to write it, but who would do it most perfectly? (I'm thinking Michael Giacchino.)1: Yeah, I think so. I don't mind so much, he's a fine composer.2: Goldenthal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 I'd say Arnold has the job as long as he wants or as along as the films are successful and the studio execs/producers decide they don't want to go in a different direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Personally I have difficulty imagining Mendes handling action blockbuster type setpieces...but at the same time I don't believe he is capable of making a bad film. If this turns out to be the way things go, well, should make for an interesting experience.Bond movies aren't "director's movies" so it doesn't really matter who's doing it.KarolI agree with these two postings...up to a point. "An interesting experience", it may be, but Wilson, Broccoli, et. al. aren't interested in making "interesting" films, they care about putting as many bums on seats as possible. I understand where they are comming from, but sometimes they get it wrong (case for the prosecution- "Quantum Of Solace").I will defend the fact that the Bond films are (mostly) well made films, using the finest talent that money can buy. Personally, I think that "GoldenEye" was the first Bond film to actually be "directed", with real thought given to how each scene will lead into the next, the use of sound, the subtleties of each performance, etc, and much credit must be given to Terry Rawlings for a fine cutting job (compare his cutting of "GoldenEye" to the hatchet job of the early Bahamas stuff in "Thunderball"!). Mendes might make a good Bond film, but it would be the most "internal" Bond film ever. Now that would be "interesting". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 A Thomas Newman Bond score could be the most amazing thing ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Yes. But he's not British! Well, neither was Eric Serra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Marvin Hamlish, Bill Conti and Michael Kamen were not English, so what is your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Marvin Hamlish, Bill Conti and Michael Kamen were not English, so what is your point?Perhaps that their scores sucked. IMO they did (athough Hamlisch had a great song). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Marvin Hamlish, Bill Conti and Michael Kamen were not English, so what is your point?Perhaps that their scores sucked. IMO they did (athough Hamlisch had a great song).Krzysztof....Please do not....DO NOT insult Kamen's testosterone packed score for License to Kill! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Marvin Hamlish, Bill Conti and Michael Kamen were not English, so what is your point?Perhaps that their scores sucked. IMO they did (athough Hamlisch had a great song).Krzysztof....Please do not....DO NOT insult Kamen's testosterone packed score for License to Kill!If that's gonna save me, I must say I like Licence Revoked cue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Marvin Hamlish, Bill Conti and Michael Kamen were not English, so what is your point?I swear Brits were only allowed to direct Bond films. I thought it was for composers too. I did just check IMDb quickly though and I guess I just came up with that "rule" somehow. Several of them were from New Zealand and Marc Forster is German. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Bond movies aren't "director's movies" so it doesn't really matter who's doing it.KarolBut it is a baffling choice since Mendes is a theater man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 No more weird then Michael Apted for The World Is Not Enough.Marvin Hamlish, Bill Conti and Michael Kamen were not English, so what is your point?I swear Brits were only allowed to direct Bond films. I thought it was for composers too. I did just check IMDb quickly though and I guess I just came up with that "rule" somehow. Several of them were from New Zealand and Marc Forster is German.It is true that before QoS all the Bond directors were from Brittain or the British Commonwealth. However this has not been true for composers for well....decades...So, you were mis-informed, or non-informed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,544 Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 I think Powell would write an absolute ripper of a Bond score. It may even further highlight the similarities the new Bond movies have with the Bourne trilogy though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Come out of retirement, John Barry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,690 Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 British or not, the most action-filled score Newman's ever done is Wall-E (or parts of Finding Nemo I guess). I don't think he'd handle a Bond somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 There's a first time for everything. Thomas Newman really hasn't been given a chance to score an action film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,690 Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 I think if he'd wanted to do one, he would have by now. All he seems to do nowadays is smaller/independent movies needing 20 mins of music.He should stick to what he's good at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 I have been able to obtain an exclusive preview of the up-comming Sam Mendes/Bond 23 script:Scene 11.Int., M.I.6 control room.Bond, and his associate Tanner, are talking about Bond's impending mission. M. enters the room, and walks up to Bond.M: "Bond, have you got a minute?"Bond (over-cheerfully): "For you, M., I've got five!".I can hardly wait! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 I don't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,690 Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Watch the start of American Beauty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 Hey guys looks like the next Bond film is going to be made after all.http://movies.msn.com/movies/article.aspx?news=609823>1=28101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Bond 23 back on?http://www.aintitcool.com/node/47650 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,013 Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 With Mendes, Craig and Arnold, apparently.Speaking of which, I was kind of hoping for Thomas Newman to score this... Arnold is fine, but at this point he's done so many of them I don't really care to hear another one.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 He might cast his wife in it so she can appear in the nuddy again.I've seen too much of that. Why do you think those tube socks sag so much? They're out in every one of her films.And the second one: which composer do you think would write the best Bond soundtrack at the moment? Not who would you personally prefer to write it, but who would do it most perfectly? (I'm thinking Michael Giacchino.)2: Goldenthal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,690 Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 With Mendes, Craig and Arnold, apparently.Speaking of which, I was kind of hoping for Thomas Newman to score this... Arnold is fine, but at this point he's done so many of them I don't really care to hear another one.KarolThomas Newman is not suited for a Bond movie. Action music isn't his forte. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Thomas Newman is not suited for a Bond movie. Action music isn't his forte.I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,013 Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 And how do you know that?Because he's never done an action picture and because he was never asked to deliver a strictly orchestral score doesn't mean he can't do it.What looks like a wrong choice often turns out to be an inspired one as well. And that's why I want to hear it.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 When Mendes was hired I expected Newman to score. I want him to do it, because I know he'd do wonders with the theme. The Bond scores could finally sound different. And Newman has never done a full-blown action score, so it's impossible to say he can't do it. If you want proof that he can write big, grand orchestral scores, listen to The Good German. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 I thought QOS was almost unlistenable. I wouldn't mind if they gave another composer a try for a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 I honestly think the other Newman brother, David - would be a wiser choice. Just because Thomas Newman did a noir pastiche, doesn't mean his approach isn't high;y circumscribed. The Bond scores could finally sound different.Before Mr. David Arnold arrived on scene, they always did. Masses of variety there, even with just the Barry score themselves. They all had a unique identity, mostly in the orchestration and harmony.I think Goldenthal's a good suggested, but depends on how interprets the film. Not a fan of his scores when their at their most ambient, and over-produced.What about a Joel McNeely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 They still sound different. For example QoS sounds nothing like Arnold's Brosnan's Bonds nor even Casino Royale which already had its own, stron musical identity. On the other hand, Arnold is not John Barry.I think Arnold is doing fine, but being big fan of his prabably makes me biased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,690 Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 And how do you know that?Because he's never done an action picture and because he was never asked to deliver a strictly orchestral score doesn't mean he can't do it.What looks like a wrong choice often turns out to be an inspired one as well. And that's why I want to hear it.KarolI've been told several times that the reason some composers choose do just do comedies/direct to video stuff is that they want to stay away from the mainstream hollywood stuff - they feel more comfortable doing smaller projects.Thomas Newman does a few styles of music incredibly well, but I haven't heard any evidence so far that a film that needs protracted action sequences is something he *does*.I may be wrong, but hey, all composers have their niches. I wouldn't want JW scoring a quiet reflective film, and I don't think Newman is suited to a Bond film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 I may be wrong, but hey, all composers have their niches. I wouldn't want JW scoring a quiet reflective film, and I don't think Newman is suited to a Bond film.These days JW seem better at doing scores for quiet (sort of) reflective movies (MoaG vs WotW or KotCS) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,690 Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 That depends on how successful one considers those 3 scores to be.I'm not a fan of the quieter moments from any. Well, WotW has some interesting parts within cues, but they don't last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 That depends on how successful one considers those 3 scores to be.I'm not a fan of the quieter moments from any. Well, WotW has some interesting parts within cues, but they don't last.I am not sure if you noticed that I put MoaG in opossition to WotW and KotCS (MoaG being the "reflective" movie). In other words, I prefer his recent drama scores to his recent action/epic/adventure/s-f ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 JW does more quiet scores than action scores. He actually rarely does action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 They still sound different. For example QoS sounds nothing like Arnold's Brosnan's Bonds nor even Casino Royale.I don't really hear that differences. The same orchestral hits, string ostinati, pulsing electronics, wailing trumpet clichés etc.... Though if Arnold had decided to the abandon the electronics altogether and start with a clean slate, I might see where you're coming from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 I find it amusing that people who bash Arnold for always sounding the same seem to forget that Barry is hardly the most versatile composer out there. Certainly a lot of his Bond scores have a "sameness" to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 I find it amusing that people who bash Arnold for always sounding the same seem to forget that Barry is hardly the most versatile composer out there. Certainly a lot of his Bond scores have a "sameness" to them.His later non-Bond scores in the 90s, perhaps. But not his early stuff. THUNDERBALL was easily distinguishable from GOLDFINGER, which was entirely different to OHMSS, as that was to MOONRAKER, and so on. He gave a unique voice to each score, mostly in the orchestration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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