bollemanneke 3,352 Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 Yeah but what didn't he like, was what I meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 I mean I don't really feel like revisiting them but my memory is that the orchestrations were typically gorgeous for Desplat, but I found both scores distinctly unmemorable. He just didn't bring interesting ideas, melodically. I definitely remember the Part 2 soundtrack straight up putting me to sleep once. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 Exactly that happened with me and Goblet of Fire. I'm still not sold on any of the non-Williams Potter scores. Only exception is Fantastic Beasts, which is actually pretty fantastic compared to any of those others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 I've revisited Doyle's Goblet of Fire recently and found it to be quite nice. The Hooper scores and the Desplat scores still don't do a lot for me, but they each have a handful of nice moments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Once and bollemanneke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Great score! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Probably my favorite Doyle score. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Probably my third favorite Potter score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,352 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Well, JW's action music isn't always structured either. On another note, what do people make of La-La Land Records Facebook post on Saturday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 I'll post it here for those who haven't seen it: Innocent picture or sly hint? Who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 2 hours ago, BloodBoal said: Each non-Williams score has enough good stuff to hold my interest long enough. The one I struggle the most with is probably Doyle's, actually, because of its over-the-top bombasticity (bombasticness? bombastication?). Every single moment seems to be scored like it's the climax of the film (the Cutthroat Island syndrome!), which can be a bit exhausting to listen to after a while. And the action sequences lack a proper structure (too many "BIG BOMBASTIC MOMENT" pause "BIG BOMBASTIC MOMENT!" pause "BIG BOMBASTIC MOMENT!" pause, etc. to my liking), but there's definitely some neat material in there, there's no denying. That definitely applies to "The Golden Egg" and not in a good way. And that is coming from someone who really, REALLY likes Cutthroat Island! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 9 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: I'll post it here for those who haven't seen it: Innocent picture or sly hint? Who knows. OMG!11 Lalaland to release all eight Potter scores! 100% confirmed! Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bollemanneke 3,352 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 I'm really curious how they'd release these scores. I thought it would be a Black Friday thing, what with all the Fantastic Beasts craze etc. Even then, would we get 1-3 in a box set, or would they keep us dangling for eight years? Or are we grasping at straws? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 I would guess if WB grants a license to any of the specialty labels, the specialty label would release them one at a time on their own, no giant box sets or composer-combo sets. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 8 minutes ago, bollemanneke said: what with all the Fantastic Beasts craze etc Craze? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Yeah, Fantastic Beasts severely under-performed at the box office. Relative to the Harry Potter films at least. Hardly a craze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,352 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Oh, I just assumed it was a craze because of the endless interviews/books/audiobooks/other needless stuff that this franchise is spawning. It was definitely a better film that some of Yates's HP films, I think, thought the hype is annoying me. I don't want to know where Tina is lving in 2017, for instance. @Bloodboal Why 7 CDs? 6 would be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Yup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 42 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: I'll post it here for those who haven't seen it: Innocent picture or sly hint? Who knows. Posted April 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,291 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Shit! 2 hours ago, BloodBoal said: Each non-Williams score has enough good stuff to hold my interest long enough. The one I struggle the most with is probably Doyle's, actually, because of its over-the-top bombasticity (bombasticness? bombastication?). Every single moment seems to be scored like it's the climax of the film (the Cutthroat Island syndrome!), which can be a bit exhausting to listen to after a while. And the action sequences lack a proper structure (too many "BIG BOMBASTIC MOMENT" pause "BIG BOMBASTIC MOMENT!" pause "BIG BOMBASTIC MOMENT!" pause, etc. to my liking), but there's definitely some neat material in there, there's no denying. Bombast? This is the problem I have with the whole film. The constant "Wow magic is awesome!" stuff works for the first film, but in Goblet of Fire it gets pretty tiresome. Everything's in capital letters from the grand spectacle to the incidental scenes. The cool thing about the books was that most of the magic was pretty domestic and had a nice everyday logic to it so when the big otherworldly stuff came up, it was really impressive. But Mike Newell had an "anything goes" approach that got rather bizarre and silly at times....too much of it has some sort of over-the-top flourish to it, whether it's the Beauxbatons/Durmstrang entrances, or Dumbledore starting off the champion selection with that odd slow hand wave through the crowd, or Harry doing a mile-high backflip out of the lake. Even compared to the Columbus films, there's a difference between how Moody transforms Malfoy into the ferret with a flashy tornado effect and Doyle's busy strings/woodwinds and the simpler effects of McGonagall transforming from a cat into a human. Cuaron hit the best balance for me where enough of the magic is treated with a sort of winking nonchalance that it balances out the wildly indulgent stuff. That's essentially how Yates has been tackling the films too, though they're generally not quite as charming or inventive. bollemanneke and DarthDementous 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,352 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 You can perfectly fit the first score on two CDs. I did it myself. Just add Christmas at Hogwarts from the OST, remove the outtakes/inserts/extra take in Diagon Alley and Owl's Flight and that's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 You are incorrect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jay 37,373 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 You can fit the score + suite on 2 CDs, but when you start factoring in the alternates and trailer music, you're up to 3. And since Matessino does every Williams release now seemingly, he would never leave anything out. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,352 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Um... I swear I have 2 disks that are more than complete enough for me. My edit looks like this: Disc 1: 01 The Boy Who Lived.mp3 02 The Vanishing Glass.mp3 03 The Letters From No One.mp3 04 No Post On Sundays.mp3 05 The Keeper Of The Keys.mp3 06 You're A Wizard, Harry.mp3 07 Diagon Alley.mp3 08 Ollivander.mp3 09 Hagrid Reflects.mp3 10 The Journey From Platform Nine-And-Three-Quarters.mp3 11 Chocolate Frogs.mp3 12 The Arrival At Hogwarts.mp3 13 The Great Hall.mp3 14 The Sorting Hat.mp3 15 The Banquet.mp3 16 Harry's New Home.mp3 17 Mail's Here!.mp3 18 Harry's First Flight.mp3 19 On The Run.mp3 20 It's Guarding Something.mp3 21 Quidditch Introduction.mp3 22 Wingardium Leviosa.mp3 23 Quirrell Bursts In.mp3 24 The Troll.mp3 25 The Broomstick.mp3 26 Quidditch.mp3 27 Who's Nicolas Flamel.mp3 28 Happy Christmas!.mp3 29 The Mirror Of Erised.mp3 30 Dumbledore's Advice.mp3 31 Nicolas Flamel.mp3 32 Norbert The Norwegian Ridgeback.mp3 DisC 2: 01 Detention.mp3 02 The Forbidden Forest.mp3 03 You Can't Be Touched.mp3 04 Through The Trapdoor.mp3 05 Fluffy's Harp.mp3 06 Devil's Snare.mp3 07 Flying Keys.mp3 08 Wizard Chess.mp3 09 The Man With Two Faces.mp3 10 Love, Harry.mp3 11 Another Year Gone.mp3 12 Hagrid's Present.mp3 13 The Leaky Cauldron.mp3 14 Cast A Christmas Spell.mp3 15 Christmas Music Box.mp3 16 Hagrid's Flute.mp3 17 The Boy Who Lived (Alternate Intro).mp3 18 Christmas At Hogwarts (Album).mp3 19 Dumbledore's Advice (Alternate Ending).mp3 20 Hedwig's Flight.mp3 21 Hogwarts Forever!.mp3 22 Voldemort.mp3 23 Nimbus 2000.mp3 24 Fluffy And His Harp.mp3 25 Quidditch.mp3 26 Family Portrait.mp3 27 Diagon Alley.mp3 28 Harry's Wondrous World.mp3 29 Coke Ad.mp3 30 Hedwig's Theme.mp3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Key words "for me" and "my edit". Your personal preference. Not a proper complete score release that a specialty label would release. Why are you arguing about this? Once and Bilbo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,352 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 I was just surprised that people were expecting HP1to be 3 discs and HP2 and 3 two discs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Because of lack of knowledge? A complete Philosophers Stone can only be 3 CD's. Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 And would sell like hot cakes. Why would a compete release leave stuff off? You have the OST for that. Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,352 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 I just thougt that there wasn't enough material to fill 3 discs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 With the Childrens Suite Included there is more than enough. Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 On 4/04/2017 at 3:51 AM, bollemanneke said: I just thougt that there wasn't enough material to fill 3 discs. On 4/04/2017 at 3:53 AM, Stefancos said: With the Childrens Suite Included there is more than enough. As certain edited editions out there are easily presented in a three-disc format, it seems like it would be easy for the official release to do the same. Although, I wonder if a complete release for just JW's three would mean that there would be six discs with the complete scores, and then a seventh for alternates and the Children's Suite? Or if any of the labels decide to release each score separately... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Anyone know, would obtaining a license for Philosophers Stone automatically mean they can also release the Children's Suite? Or would that require a separate license? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 It was written concurrently and recorded during the sessions. But legally it might be considered a separate work. Requiring a separate license. Since it is a concert work, not a film score. I was just wondering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,352 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 But parts of the suite ended up on the OST. Wouldn't that count for something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 It would be part of the same license, no special circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 That's good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,835 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 What is the likelihood of a complete score for any of the HP films actually being released (officially)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,552 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 At the moment, and unless a specialist label like LLL gets its hands on them, I'd say...less than zero. We can, however, always hope... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,352 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 I just feel it'll be one of LLL's Black Friday releases. That or Titanic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 52 minutes ago, Alex said: What is the likelihood of a complete score for any of the HP films actually being released (officially)? It's entirely dependant on whether the Executive at Warner Brothers in charge of their music licensing division agrees to license it out to a specialty label or not. If he is, we'll be all set - Matessino will be hired to do the job, and the release will be great. If the exec is just not interested, we'll never see one until a new person takes over the division, if then. I also have no idea if JK Rowling would have to approve of such releases as well; It's not unheard of. LLL's Dances With Wolves and Wyatt Earp sat in limbo for months (years?) after being finished until freaking Kevin Costner signed off on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 I know it's a different studio, but the Jurassic Park/Lost World collection gives me hope. First instance of Williams scores for a still-active mega movie franchise being licensed to a specialty label. An invisible barrier was crossed. crumbs and Pieter Boelen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 8 minutes ago, Jay said: It's entirely dependant on whether the Executive at Warner Brothers in charge of their music licensing division agrees to license it out to a specialty label or not. If he is, we'll be all set - Matessino will be hired to do the job, and the release will be great. If the exec is just not interested, we'll never see one until a new person takes over the division, if then. I also have no idea if JK Rowling would have to approve of such releases as well; It's not unheard of. LLL's Dances With Wolves and Wyatt Earp sat in limbo for months (years?) after being finished until freaking Kevin Costner signed off on them. I think I read that Rowling has the final say on all merch released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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