Naïve Old Fart 9,556 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 From the sound of him, he's a Nexus 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,348 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 I haven't played the vid but he's a Leon type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,556 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 That vid; It's not fancy, or anything, is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,348 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Time to come clean, I didn't feel anything when I watched the trailer. And to be honest, I don't think I'm alone in this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,556 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 You're not, Alex, but...trailers can be deceptive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 OK, I finally watched the trailer. Well, I ended up liking it way more than I was expecting too. I thought it was a very good trailer, great visuals on display here and a great cast. The world and its inhabitants look really fleshed out and realized, and there were no poor-looking special effects. I don't hold Blade Runner up on some crazy high pedestral, it wasn't an "important" movie in my development as a cinephile.. I like it just fine, its great, but nothing I watch repeatedly like some of my other favorites. So I don't really care if this sequel tarnishes its legacy or not, I just hope its good on its own terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indianagirl 298 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 I don't know if I can accept a Blade Runner movie without Vangelis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Lord knows I can! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 6 hours ago, Jay said: OK, I finally watched the trailer. Well, I ended up liking it way more than I was expecting too. I thought it was a very good trailer, great visuals on display here and a great cast. The world and its inhabitants look really fleshed out and realized, and there were no poor-looking special effects. I don't hold Blade Runner up on some crazy high pedestral, it wasn't an "important" movie in my development as a cinephile.. I like it just fine, its great, but nothing I watch repeatedly like some of my other favorites. So I don't really care if this sequel tarnishes its legacy or not, I just hope its good on its own terms. This is pretty much exactly how I feel. I am not a reverent Blade Runner fan, just someone who enjoyed it and doesn't mind seeing another take on the world, as long as it is competent and nuanced, and I think we'll be getting that. In the same spirit, as much as I love Vangelis and his score for the original, if everything else is different, the music can be different too - although I was hoping JJ would go purely electronic and I believe he isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Still think Zimmer should have gotten this. He would have absolutely gotten into it and nailed it. Yes, he's the predictable choice, but he's also the best choice. Dixon Hill and Arpy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 You mean Giacchino isn't doing this? He's our best and only composer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Don't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,556 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Selina Kyle said: You mean Giacchino isn't doing this? He's our best and only composer... He was the last, best hope for the film. He wanted to save it. He was desperate to save it! He came in peace...and Vilneuve blatantly defied that peace! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 He was the last hope in the universe for good scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,556 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 For that, I shall blow Scott and Vilneuve out of the stars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,348 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 If Giacchino, Zimmer and Johannsson are the only three options, I would go for Johannsson. Based on his work for Arrival, he doesn't sound like he's strapped in a Hollywood straitjacket yet. I thought Scott's Blade Runner had a very original atmosphere (a soaky melancholic film noir score that had a strong Vangelis signature) so naturally I don't won't to hear a conventional movie score or a typical film music composer for 2049. Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 God, can you imagine Giacchino on this? I'd sooner shit in my hat, pull it down over my ears, and listen to that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 It'd have mickey mousing and a reoccurring little ditty which YouTube fiddlists would pay homage to for video likes. Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 19 minutes ago, TheGreyPilgrim said: God, can you imagine Giacchino on this? I'd sooner shit in my hat, pull it down over my ears, and listen to that! I can imagine - it'll be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,348 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 21 minutes ago, RPurton said: I can imagine - it'll be great. How? Have you even seen the movie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 29 minutes ago, Alexcremers said: How? Have you even seen the movie? No. Johannsson is scoring it. Nothing wrong with that choice, however it was merely a response to the dogmatic dislike of Giacchino around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indianagirl 298 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 I don't agree about Zimmer being a good choice for this. I say this as someone who enjoys Zimmer. I haven't seen The Arival and am not familiar with Johannsson's work. I was really hoping they'd get Vangelis to do it. Like him or not he IS Blade Runner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,348 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 18 minutes ago, Indianagirl said: I was really hoping they'd get Vangelis to do it. Like him or not he IS Blade Runner. Well, I hear you, but it's a bit like saying only Ridley Scott should touch a Blade Runner sequel. I actually would agree with that if this was 1982 but now we're in 2017, and Scott's almost 80 years old, I think he lost his edge. The same goes for Vangelis. I don't wanna see a Blade Runner movie that is handled in the same way as Prometheus or that Egypt movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Scott alludes to a certain cynism on his part towards modern-day audiences (in his interviews of recent years). I say a good miniseries would be his best choice then (as they allow for a far higher level of sophistication). As far as of now, all i have seen on the tube bearing the 'Scott' name was exactly as superficial as his movies. I guess the writers and naysayers were stronger in his early years. What he does mirrors the lack of this opposition (weak scripts, premium on visual content). Which must not be bad but 'Prometheus' was a good indication that the strong visualist needs a good writer to keep things in check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indianagirl 298 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Actually I would prefer Ridley to personaly direct Blade Runner. I don't like 2017. Perhaps Ridley has lost his edge a little bit...Prometheus was good until it fell apart in the last thirty or so minutes of the film. I didn't care for his Moses film at all and it felt to me like the studio stepped in and forced him to leave most of the movie on the cutting room floor like Kingdom of Heaven. Although I've never heard anything to validate that. I agree with the Grey Pilgrim and Jay that if this version of Blade Runner is bad it won't break my heart because I'm not overly emotionally invested. However, as someone who does genuinely like the original...I see a lot of red flags popping up on this new one. Including Harrison Ford's wardrobe. So I guess what I'm saying is that If Ridley and Vangelis have lost their edge.....maybe Blade Runner should have been kept a nice memory of the 80's? Time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,348 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 3 hours ago, Indianagirl said: I agree with the Grey Pilgrim and Jay that if this version of Blade Runner is bad it won't break my heart because I'm not overly emotionally invested. However, as someone who does genuinely like the original...I see a lot of red flags popping up on this new one. Including Harrison Ford's wardrobe. Absolutely right about the red flags. Villeneuve's version of Blade Runner also seems to look very clean. One of the things I liked about the film of 1982 is how everything and everyone (!) seems to be decaying or deteriorating. Indianagirl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Maybe Denis is another one of these very clean, crisp, but slightly sterile film makerd. Like Nolan I have faith in the DP though. Visual beauty doesn't always lie in individual shots. It's a language. A single shot is just a single word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 I have faith in Villeneuve! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indianagirl 298 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Alexcremers said: Absolutely right about the red flags. Villeneuve's version of Blade Runner also seems to look very clean. One of the things I liked about the film of 1982 is how everything and everyone (!) seems to be decaying or deteriorating. I think you're spot on concerning the clean look. There are some impressive visuals in this trailer and there are some visuals that look bland to me. I do hope it's a worthy sequel to Blade Runner. I really do. I'm just not convinced it will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 I prefer the theatrical version of Blade Runner with the happy ending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Like the Sid Sheinberg version of Brazil! Naïve Old Fart and DarthDementous 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 I think I always knew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 4 hours ago, Stefancos said: Maybe Denis is another one of these very clean, crisp, but slightly sterile film makerd. Like Nolan I have faith in the DP though. Visual beauty doesn't always lie in individual shots. It's a language. A single shot is just a single word I'm wondering Steef, would you call Kubrick clean and crisp but slightly sterile? If not, which of his films would you point to as being unsterile in their appearance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 With Kubrick there was a lucid intellect behind the dispassionate lens. With the unholy trinity of Mann, Fincher and Nolan, you'll only find witless lugubriousness passing for depth. Renounce your false prophet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 Agreed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,556 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 On 12/05/2017 at 8:37 PM, Indianagirl said: I don't know if I can accept a Blade Runner movie without Vangelis. Yeah. That's as utterly ridiculous as as a STAR WARS film without John Willi- ...oh shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,348 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 11 hours ago, Stefancos said: I have faith in the DP though. Visual beauty doesn't always lie in individual shots. It's a language. A single shot is just a single word I wasn't talking about the photography but about the production design and how it appears to do away with Scott's old decaying retrofitted future. Of course, it could be the trailer. Scott's new Alien movies also look very clean compared to the first movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,556 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 6 hours ago, Sharky said: With Kubrick there was a lucid intellect behind the dispassionate lens. With the unholy trinity of Mann, Fincher and Nolan, you'll only find witless lugubriousness passing for depth. Renounce your false prophet! I agree to a point, Sharky. Fincher has lost his "apocalyptic" edge, and Nolan is a third-rate director making films for a second-rate audience (I'm sorry, but I don't know who Mann is). Whilst there was a "lucid intellect", Kubrick's lens was far from "dispassionate". There is passion, compassion, and great humour in his work. One simply has to know where to look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 I think Kubrick was at times dispassionate, and at others warmer, and certainly humorous in an often subtle way. Whatever his many often ineffable qualities were, those are what I look for in other directors. Of Fincher, Mann, and Nolan, Nolan is the only one that I feel carries on something of what Kubrick had. Appreciation for him will only wax as the years go by, as will his assuredness as a director. I will not deny a lack of weight on the part of Fincher and Mann, however - the only real works of theirs I find appreciable being Heat and Gone Girl. Must also cite Refn as an utter poser in this respect. The most obvious successor to Kubrick and his ilk, though, is Malick. What does this have to do with Blade Runner? I'm not sure. Villeneuve seems to me to be, like Nolan, another promising Kubrick descendent in his own way. Moreso than he seems to embody anything of Scott's early sensibilities, at least, which is what I was getting at with my initial question to Steef. Kubrick was never sterile, but his worlds were not the gritty, lived in sort of thing that Scott went for, though this in no way compromised their believability or immersiveness. Perhaps this is why the look and feel of this new film appeals to me more than the original ever did, and why Alex is made uneasy. After all, you're either a Blade Runner person, or a 2001 person, when it comes down to it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indianagirl 298 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 I don't know if I'd call Malick a successor to Kubrick....But I do understand why you'd say that. I really do. I like most of Fincher's films, a couple of Mann's films, and 90% of Nolan's films.....but I don't see how any of them are comparible to Kubrick. I just don't see it. But that's little ole me. For me Stanley Kubrick was in a class all to himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 7 hours ago, TheGreyPilgrim said: I will not deny a lack of weight on the part of Fincher and Mann, however - the only real works of theirs I find appreciable being Heat and Gone Girl. Really? I like at least three movies of each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corellian2019 386 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 Yeah. Thief and The Insider are dynamite I think Gone Girl qualifies as Fincher's most intoxicating film since Zodiac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 I hate the way Mann shoots his films. His crutch on poor digital photography makes the digital noise unbearable. The nighttime shootout in Public Enemies should be shown in film school as a what not to do. I always found Heat overrated but I picked up the new transfer to give it another shot. Love Collateral. The less said about Miami Vice the better. Indianagirl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 I don't care for any of these directors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indianagirl 298 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Koray Savas said: I hate the way Mann shoots his films. His crutch on poor digital photography makes the digital noise unbearable. The nighttime shootout in Public Enemies should be shown in film school as a what not to do. I couldn't agree more about Public Enemies. I know the shots you're talking about and they look camcorderish. Very VIDEO. I, however, will always have a soft place in my heart for Last of the Mohicans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 I forgot he did that one. Good film. 5 hours ago, Indianagirl said: I don't know if I'd call Malick a successor to Kubrick....But I do understand why you'd say that. I really do. I like most of Fincher's films, a couple of Mann's films, and 90% of Nolan's films.....but I don't see how any of them are comparible to Kubrick. I just don't see it. But that's little ole me. For me Stanley Kubrick was in a class all to himself. Malick is the spotlight here but it has Fincher and Nolan briefly discussing his work and even a mention of Kubrick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 'Thief', too. He did a rather foul one i saw on Prime recently ('Blackhat', i think) but generally - since i do not hold Kubrick on that high a pedestal - neither Fincher nor Mann are slouches in the directorial department. Nolan has been hit and miss with me, i rather wouldn't see some of his movies again than, say, 'Last of the Mohicans' or the Gyllenhaal serial killer pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 No love for Memento or The Prestige? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indianagirl 298 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 The featurette mentions that like Kubrick and Hitchcock, Malick's work has an inseprable relationship between the image and the story he's telling. But that could said of a other directors work as well. Like I said earlier...I get the comparison The Grey Pilgrim made. I really do. I just see Malick as something else. Almost like a cinematic poet. He is very much his own entity. 7 minutes ago, publicist said: i do not hold Kubrick on that high a pedestal You always have interesting comments. I'm just curious who (cinematically) do you hold on a high pedestal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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