Trent B 337 Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 How odd, my post seems to have disappeared from this thread. Here are my favorite Goldsmith titles and could easily get into liking his scores.Star Trek: The Motion PictureStar Trek V: The Final FrontierStar Trek: First ContactStar Trek: InsurrectionStar Trek: NemesisAir Force OneThe EdgeThe MummyMulanTimelineFor the Star Trek scores, definitely get their complete versions. The OST's are OKAY but a lot of the best highlights have been left off of them, particularly for Star Trek V and Nemesis.Air Force One, The Mummy and Mulan definitely get their complete versions as well.Timeline you could either go with just the Varèse release or get the complete version, your choice on that.The Edge and Star Trek V for sure get La-La Land's release. I was iffy about The Edge but I have ended up liking it quite a bit and it's a pleasure to listen to. One of the very few Goldsmith scores that doesn't have his signature synths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 399 Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 Start with "Link". It's all downhill from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 Alien.What you like about it, you will find in plenty other scores.What you don't like about it, you will end up liking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,527 Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 Christus Apollo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 Gremlins, anyone?Probably his most accessible score.This one track is good enough to buy the whole Under Fire album: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 456 Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 The Wind and the LionOne of the more vintage Goldsmith. Boys from Brazil has a fierce, rhythmic march that I love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,734 Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Recommendations for a Goldsmith newbie:Star Trek the Motion Picture: The theme is a winner and a classic, the mysterious Vejur synth and orchestra and blaster beam sections are perhaps less easy to digest. The Klingon theme is great as well. Not to mention Ilia's theme.Air Force One: If you can stomach the extreme patriotism of the main theme you are in for a great relenless Goldsmith action with a neat theme for the Russians and a nice little family theme for the President.Rudy: Melodic, gentle but at times epic sports score with subtle Irish-American lilt to it. Heartwarming.Omen: Terrifying and dramatic. Dark and a bit weird but a classic horror score. The choral sections are the highlight.Wind and the Lion: Goldsmith's adventure/David Lean film type of score. Robust heroic main theme and a bittersweet love theme. Great Hollywood ethnic writing.Basic Instinct: One of the sexiest and suave scores in history. Awesome main theme with a deadly vibe underneath (well not deadly to the listener)First Knight: Heroic, fanfarish, pounding action and sweet romantic interludes.The Edge: Superb main theme that complements the vistas and wild mountains in the movie. The suspence music is top notch, the action brutal, peppered by percussion.The Mummy: Adventure with slight ethnic tint. This score has a bit of everything.Papillon: One of Goldsmith's best but if you do not fancy accordion and some French stylings then it is not for you. Varied and soulful music.Capricorn One: Powerful main theme, rather icy suspence music and a lovely Kay's theme.Blue Max: Adventure and drama. Goldsmith makes the planes soar with his wonderful leaping main theme that captures flying to a T.Chinatown: If you like film noir then this is a classic. Bittersweet trumpet theme, nostalgic strings, wistful piano. Sparse, suspenceful and at times quite unorthodox in its orchestration.Well this is only a handful of the more accessible scores but they cover a variety of styles and techniques. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Good selection Olórin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,663 Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Whenever such topics come up, I usually recommend people to go for compilations first and see what they like there for further investigation.Also, it's important to separate between what are must-haves or landmark scores on his resume and what you would like.And the latter point is also essential. In order to give any kind of meaningful recommendation, I would know what kind of taste you have.Here's what I said in a similar thread over at FSM awhile back:"I think that in looking at his career, there is only about a handful that is historically important and/or "must-haves" in his canon. People will probably pick slightly different scores, but IMO it boils down to these: PLANET OF THE APES PATTON THE OMEN ALIEN STAR TREK: THE MOTION PICTURE BASIC INSTINCT That's it. These are either pivotal in film music history (POTA, PATTON, ALIEN, BASIC INSTINCT) or for Goldsmith's own career (OMEN, STAR TREK). Then, of course, I might just mention a few PERSONAL favourites that aren't necessarily must-haves for everyone, but bloody good listening experiences, if you ask me: THE LAST RUN THE MUMMY UNDER FIRE MEDICINE MAN THE WIND AND THE LION There are obviously more nice Goldsmith out there, but a guy could live perfectly well on just these 11." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 "I think that in looking at his career, there is only about a handful that is historically important and/or "must-haves" in his canon. People will probably pick slightly different scores, but IMO it boils down to these: PLANET OF THE APES PATTON THE OMEN ALIEN STAR TREK: THE MOTION PICTURE BASIC INSTINCT That's it. These are either pivotal in film music history (POTA, PATTON, ALIEN, BASIC INSTINCT) or for Goldsmith's own career (OMEN, STAR TREK).Conduct an empirical study and those lists go up in flames. Here in Germany few know PATTON, many more know PAPILLON. Finally, people tell you they remember FLIM FLAM MAN best and never knew that POTA featured any music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 That's why the whole world hates the Germans! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,663 Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 "I think that in looking at his career, there is only about a handful that is historically important and/or "must-haves" in his canon. People will probably pick slightly different scores, but IMO it boils down to these: PLANET OF THE APES PATTON THE OMEN ALIEN STAR TREK: THE MOTION PICTURE BASIC INSTINCT That's it. These are either pivotal in film music history (POTA, PATTON, ALIEN, BASIC INSTINCT) or for Goldsmith's own career (OMEN, STAR TREK).Conduct an empirical study and those lists go up in flames. Here in Germany few know PATTON, many more know PAPILLON. Finally, people tell you they remember FLIM FLAM MAN best and never knew that POTA featured any music.Well, I wasn't thinking so much in terms of global popularity, as in how referenced they are (both within the industry and in film literature) how they influenced the artform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 That's why the whole world hates the Germans!A badge we proudly wear when we'll crush you next WC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 BRING IT ON, FRITZY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Well, I wasn't thinking so much in terms of global popularity, as in how referenced they are (both within the industry and in film literature) how they influenced the artform.Then things like SAND PEBBLES, CHINATOWN, WIND AND THE LION or POLTERGEIST pop up with the same frightening regularity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,663 Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Well, I wasn't thinking so much in terms of global popularity, as in how referenced they are (both within the industry and in film literature) how they influenced the artform.Then things like SAND PEBBLES, CHINATOWN, WIND AND THE LION or POLTERGEIST pop up with the same frightening regularity.Except maybe CHINATOWN, I've rarely bumped into those in that context. SAND, WIND and POLTERGEIST are more genre fare (first two are also relatively obscure), which doesn't have the same "presence", in my experience (although well appreciated by fans, of course). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sandor 799 Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Christus Apollo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Hey Roald. Do you want your Tsunami CD back? You like For Always now, maybe you will like Christus Apollo too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 799 Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Hey Roald. Do you want your Tsunami CD back? You like For Always now, maybe you will like Christus Apollo too!Even if you would pay me I wouldn't take it back..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,663 Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Christ, some unsettling images there. I want my eyes back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Hmmm...is the one on the right a lady? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,069 Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Let's be a little careful with some of the images we post, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 There is nothing wrong with my picture! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,727 Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Hmmm...is the one on the right a lady?Who cares, it's Arcturan, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 I think you need advise from someone who's not a Star Trek geek and likes Goldsmith's more melodic, elaborately orchestrated scores from the late 70's up to about 1987. These are the ones that are comparable to Williams thematic type scoresStar Trek The Motion PicturePoltergeistPatton (Intrada)Sand PebblesThe Great Train RobberyThe Final ConflictNight CrossingSecret of NIMHLegendSupergirlKing Solomon's MinesExplorersTwilight Zone the MovieThe Blue MaxInnerspaceBaby, Secret of the Lost LegendGremlins (bootleg)Logan's Run (about half of it,I think it contains one of Goldsmith's best love themes)If you listen to the weird stuff first (Link, Planet of the Apes) or scores that don't belong on any such list (Star Trek Nemesis, 13th Warrior), you may be turned off and stop right away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,727 Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 So Link, Extreme Prejudice, and Planet of the Apes are no-go's too.No they're not!!!! They do, however, fit into the "unusual" side of J.G., along with "Runaway", "Alien Nation", and "Rent-a-Cop". So Link, Extreme Prejudice, and Planet of the Apes are no-go's too.I'd recommend POTA but it may be too much for a newbie.Mark, "POTA" was the first J.G score that I bought, when I was wee nipper. It blew me away then, and it continues to do so. Talk about starting at the top!This thread just goes to show not only the depth of love for J.G., but also the diversity of choice that there is within his music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,069 Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 I think you need advise from someone who's not a Star Trek geek and likes Goldsmith's more melodic, elaborately orchestrated scores from the late 70's up to about 1987. These are the ones that are comparable to Williams thematic type scoresIf you listen to the weird stuff first (Link, Planet of the Apes) or scores that don't belong on any such list (Star Trek Nemesis, 13th Warrior), you may be turned off and stop right awayNo offense to KM, I also think you need to ignore posts like these as well that only go for the traditional stuff.The 13th Warrior is an excellent score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,067 Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 The 13th Warrior was probably one of my first Goldsmith's CD's. I think it's better than The Mummy from the same year (which is also not bad).Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,069 Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 They are nice companion scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,253 Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 I vastly prefer The Mummy, but over the years I've come to admire portions of 13th Warrior as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 There is nothing wrong with the score for Star Trek Nemesis. Grant the OST isn't that great of a listening experience since it leaves off a lot of awesome material. The complete score for Star Trek Nemesis is a lot better and definitely worth having. If anyone says it doesn't "belong" on any list is well....stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 I dunno,Ive listened to complete Nemesis and the only parts I like are derived from earlier ST scores Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 I dunno,Ive listened to complete Nemesis and the only parts I like are derived from earlier ST scoresSome scores just aren't for you, dear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,451 Posted September 10, 2012 Author Share Posted September 10, 2012 I have to say, this would be my starter list for future newbies:STTMPST:VThe Sand PebblesSupergirlMulanPatton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 I would add The Omen scores and The Wind and the Lion to that list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,451 Posted September 10, 2012 Author Share Posted September 10, 2012 No! make your own! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck 155 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Dude, get Lionheart!!!If the last 5 minutes of King Richard doesn't blow you away, then nothing will!!!Oh, and get The Ghost and The Darkness too. My favorite!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,734 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Dude, get Lionheart!!!If the last 5 minutes of King Richard doesn't blow you away, then nothing will!!!Yes! Highly recommended! That's just one of the most triumphant and rousing march finales I have ever heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck 155 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 I would also recommend Fireworks, it's a concert piece. Also one of my favorites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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