Faleel 5,365 Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 Hey, I am wondering, what would be a good start for getting into some Goldsmith? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 797 Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 Hey, I am wondering, what would be a good start for getting into some Goldsmith?Under Fire or TMP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 Star Trek: The Motion PictureStar Trek V: The Final FrontierThe OmenCapricorn OneTwilight Zone - The MoviePoltergeistor evenFirst KnightThere are actually too many to mention. But these are essentials for me.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 Star Trek: The Motion PictureMulan, The 13th Warrior PattonLegend or Planet of the ApesJust a taste of different sides of the guy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 The Secret of NIMH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 The Edge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 Star TrekRudyThe MummyAlienFrontiers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,365 Posted June 26, 2011 Author Share Posted June 26, 2011 I will probably go for Trek TMP or V why? this is why: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 http://www.amazon.com/Jerry-Goldsmith-Frontiers-Re-recording-Anthology/dp/B00000152PGet this one, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,365 Posted June 26, 2011 Author Share Posted June 26, 2011 I am not really a re-recording fan, Besides I need a good long film score to listen to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,211 Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 And the reason why this isn't such a quick question: Because there are many different sides to Goldsmith. From the easily listenable one (Rudy) over the typical rough/rhythmically complex (Poltergeist) or full-blown romantic (STTMP) ones to the hardcore serial one (Planet of the Apes). They're all great though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,556 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 Hey, I am wondering, what would be a good start for getting into some Goldsmith?Basically, you pick a score inbetween the mid 70s, and the late 90s, and you hit the bullseye. It's uniformally excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,376 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 I think Star Trek The Motion Picture and Poltergeist would be your best bets, since you already like similar Williams scores.Air Force One too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 What Jay said, plus Total Recall. And Chinatown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,376 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 Ooh yea, forgot about Total Recall. Never heard Chinatown before, though.Oh! And Twilight Zone: The Movie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 Depending on your tastes I'd take advantage of FSM's sale on some older Goldsmith titles. Plus they have Poltergeist, Twilight Zone The Movie, Islands In The Stream and Under Fire. Intrada has several that are still available I consider must haves, such as Alien, the Wind And The Lion and Patton. They also still have Players available. You can't go wrong with Star Trek TMP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,376 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 Many people are listing their own personal favorites in this thread, or his most popular scores. Faleel is specifically asking about what scores for him to start getting into Goldsmith. Stuff like Alien and Patton are not good scores to start with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 Basically, I would go with ETAndElliot4Ever's advice, and buy a good compilation. Even Silva's are kind of decent (at least the one-disc I have), and it will give you a taste of the entire Goldsmith soundtracks you're going to want to pursue, and which ones to avoid at all costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,376 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 I am not really a re-recording fan, Besides I need a good long film score to listen to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 Patton is a great score to start with. Very thematic and accessible. That's why I also mentioned "depends on your tastes". There are plenty of generous sound clips for Faleel to listen to at Intrada and FSM, Naturally we're going to suggest our favorites, or some of them. I'm not going to recommend Mr. Baseball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 I would start with something like The Russia House (still a favorite) or The Ghost and the Darkness/The Wind in the Lion (something in that vein) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 Ooh yea, forgot about Total Recall. Never heard Chinatown before, though.Well, to fair it's not really introductory material. But an important Goldsmith score, for a wetted appetite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,376 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 Under FireThe Secret of NIMH!I see these two scores mentioned often, I *really* need to check them both out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 To be fair, that Frontiers album is a compilation of re-recorded main titles and other tracks to make a "greatest hits" album of Goldsmith. And it's cheap.The most affordable for anyone to become familiar with a rock or other vocal artist that they like is to start with the greatest hits album, before they invest the money in a complete discography. And someone like Goldsmith has as vast and expensive a discography that you'll likely find anywhere.This Frontiers album is not a complete singular film score in re-recorded form like El Cid or Conan the Barbarian, which offer the only way to currently enjoy the complete film scores in their entirety.I got introduced to Goldsmith through Star Trek, and have since expanded my horizons to nearly every palette he painted with. I would start with the score of whatever film you've seen and had catch your fancy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,376 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 I would start with the score of whatever film you've seen and had catch your fancy.That's good advice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 My first Goldsmith score was First Contact. Then I asked for V, and later TMP. I can't recall what album got me out of Star Trek, but it was probably The 13th Warrior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpvee 806 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 The Mummy. Very fun score with awesome Mid-Eastern elements. Also has a truly remarkable love theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melange 446 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 Star Trek The Motion Picture TMP keeps coming up here for a very good reason. It has such variety in it and stands along beautifully. For that reason it's an excellent score as an introduction. I would say scores like Poltergeist and Total Recall are probably a bit too specific to the films, to be good introductions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 This should keep you occupied for a while... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rh_G6sEsVYgMore to come... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 I've never been able to get into JG, and I've tried much of what is listed here(his Star Trek's, The Omen, Total Recall, Mulan, etc.) I guess I just have bad taste! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,376 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 I've never been able to get into JG, and I've tried much of what is listed here(his Star Trek's, The Omen, Total Recall, Mulan, etc.) I guess I just have bad taste! Hmmmm. Can you post what your favorite scores are, from any composer? Maybe we can recommend some Goldsmith based on that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 I've never been able to get into JG, and I've tried much of what is listed here(his Star Trek's, The Omen, Total Recall, Mulan, etc.) I guess I just have bad taste! Hmmmm. Can you post what your favorite scores are, from any composer? Maybe we can recommend some Goldsmith based on thatHmmmmm, Memoirs of a Geisha(I've heard this compared to Tora! Tora! Tora!, but from what I've heard, I don't think I will connect to it any more than his other works!), Alien 3, Prisoner of Azkaban, Avatar, A.I., Lost. It's not something I usually think about that much, so that list is tentative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 I think Star Trek V (expanded!) or Poltergeist or The Twilight Zone Movie or the Wind and the Lion or The Blue Max maybe some of the more accessible ones coming from John Williams to Goldsmith. Under Fire, The Russia House, Total Recall, Mulan, The Omen etc. maybe too progressive for a newbie! *The Blue Max does not get enough recognition. It's a 5 star work. And in my book 5 star works are rare, be they Goldsmith/Williams/any composer. It's very much like Star Wars in its tone...except it came 11 years before. When you listen to it....you sort of suspect that this may have been one of Johnny's favorite scores by Jerry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 Nah, just go straight from Harry Potter to Logan's Run. You'll be fine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 Nah, just go straight from Harry Potter to Logan's Run. You'll be fine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 Hmmm, I guess I'll try The Russia House. I've heard a lot of praise for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 It's good, though the album is overlong. I'm not sure I would start with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 What the Steefmeister said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 But I can't see any reason not to start with Star Trek TMP.If you start with that and don't find it brilliant then Goldsmith is just not for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 I didn't didnt find it brilliant at first but then I had a STTMP epiphany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,376 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 It's good, though the album is overlong. I'm not sure I would start with that.But you're talking to Taikomochi, who has tried a bunch of Goldsmith before - he just hasn't found any he likes yet. It's Faleel that is the total newbie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 Many people are listing their own personal favorites in this thread, or his most popular scores. Faleel is specifically asking about what scores for him to start getting into Goldsmith. Stuff like Alien and Patton are not good scores to start withThat was my idea. I put different styles of JG in my list. I would recommend something of the long list of epic, good and easy to listen action/adventure scores from the 90's, 80's, and something more unusual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 So Link, Extreme Prejudice, and Planet of the Apes are no-go's too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 Faleel could try some adventure scores if he doesn't want anything weird:MulanThe 13th WarriorThe MummyThe EdgeThe Ghost and the Darknessetc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,211 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 Under FireThe Secret of NIMH!I see these two scores mentioned often, I *really* need to check them both out!Absolutely. Though I'm still hoping for a remastered NIMH. The overall sound is fine, but it's extremely hissy.*The Blue Max does not get enough recognition. It's a 5 star work.The only thing that could beat Blue Max is a release of the 2001 LSO suite in great sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 So Link, Extreme Prejudice, and Planet of the Apes are no-go's too.I'd recommend POTA but it may be too much for a newbie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 I must be the only person on the planet who prefers so many other Goldsmith scores over TMP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Not necessarily. But TMP is the kind of score you recommend as first choice.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 CHINATOWNPLANET OF THE APESALIENPATTONCAPRICORN ONE STAR TREK: THE MOTION PICTURETHE OMENPAPILLONTHE FINAL CONFLICTFIRST BLOODPOLTERGEISTBASIC INSTINCTGo from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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