Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 8 hours ago, BloodBoal said: And that shot too: I never realised the shots are so similar. The dialogue, of course, is straight from the book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted August 18, 2016 Author Share Posted August 18, 2016 Jackson flat out says he took that shot from the Bakshi version in the EE audio commentary. Same with the first Nazghul scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Indeed. PJ acknowledged the Bakshi version at several points. I'm guessing Marian never listened to the commentaries or watched any of the docu's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 I might have fonder/more nostalgic memories of going through the EE special features than I do of actually watching the movies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 1 hour ago, Stefancos said: Indeed. PJ acknowledged the Bakshi version at several points. I'm guessing Marian never listened to the commentaries or watched any of the docu's. I watched all the docus and loved them. I started listening to one of the commentary tracks and found it boring, so I didn't check out the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Some of the commentaries about the more technical aspects of the films (for example, the commentary of the post-production team) are not THAT engaging, but the PJ/Walsh/Boyens one and the actors one are really fun and informative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 I haven't played an audio commentary in years, but I used to love those by Branagh and Fincher. They always gave the impression that they were actually watching the film "live" with you and talking freely about it based on a cheat sheet with the most important notes. As far as I recall, the LOTR commentary gave me the impression that too much of it was created in post production, which made it feel less immediate. There's also the problem that I used to watch the films so often that watching them again with commentaries seemed exhausting - and now I'm careful not to play them to death, so I only watch them every few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 I probably watched all four commentaries for each of the three movies at least 2-3 times each. The LOTR DVDs were just what I put on the TV by default when I were a teenager. Now I did used to fall asleep to the commentaries at that time, but not because I thought they were boring. More like the audio/visual equivalent of a glass of warm milk or whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 You Only Live Twice. Predictable, but enjoyable. Poor Aki, I really liked her. And how on earth did Moneypenny get on that boat at the end? Quite a career switch for a secretary... The score had good moments, though Barry uses trumpets waaaay too often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Moneypenny was there because M was there...naturally. the score is fantastic, and you may be confusing trumpets with trombones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Watching Wizard People, Dear Reader again tonight. Easily the 2nd best Harry Potter movie after Azkaban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 No, I definitely mant trumpets, Stefancos. High-pitched, wailing trumpets. Also starting to wonder whether there will be any film in which Spectre is not the villain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdwardHall 30 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 "A Streetcar Named Desire," with a haunting, beautiful score by Alex North, who is such an underrated composer IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 1 hour ago, bollemanneke said: No, I definitely mant trumpets, Stefancos. High-pitched, wailing trumpets. Also starting to wonder whether there will be any film in which Spectre is not the villain. Thanks to Kevin McGlory every one after Diamonds Are Forever. Though I think You Only Live Twice might even be the last one where the name SPECTRE is even mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 9 hours ago, Stefancos said: What? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wizard_People,_Dear_Reader It's very funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Gave it a minute, didn't find it funny at all and his voice annoying, turned it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 It's a comedy classic! My wife and I laugh uncontrollably watching this. I will say it gets best when they actually get to Hogwarts. The names are so good. Dudley being called "Ragtime Roastbeefy" is a favorite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Total Recall (1990). My first Schwarzenegger film. Very interesting story, but his voice just makes me crack up all the time. It would also have been nice had it ended with him waking up. Also my first Goldsmith score. Some interesting tidbits, but I won't be listening to the OST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Nah, the ending is perfect, because its ambiguous, and the view can believe his own interpretation! bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 30 minutes ago, bollemanneke said: It would also have been nice had it ended with him waking up. Wrong! 30 minutes ago, bollemanneke said: Also my first Goldsmith score. Some interesting tidbits, but I won't be listening to the OST. You've never heard a Goldsmith score before???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Goldsmith's been dead for 12 years and Bollen is ~20 years old. Why does this surprise you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Bollemanneke, not Bollen... So in his teenage years he didsnt watch a single movie from the 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's or 2000's that featured a Goldsmith score? I find that very hard to believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 1 hour ago, Jay said: Goldsmith's been dead for 12 years and Bollen is ~20 years old. Why does this surprise you? What? Handel was born hundreds of years before I was born. As was Beethoven. That's the worst excuse ever and what's depressing about it is I've heard it before. Are you one of those people who thinks it's cute and funny when moronic fuckin children get all confused when they're handed a Walkman in YouTube videos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 1 hour ago, Jay said: Goldsmith's been dead for 12 years and Bollen is ~20 years old. Why does this surprise you? Star Wars is 2 years older than I am, and yet that's exactly what got me into film music in the first place... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 2 hours ago, Stefancos said: Bollemanneke, not Bollen... So in his teenage years he didsnt watch a single movie from the 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's or 2000's that featured a Goldsmith score? I find that very hard to believe. Bollen grew up on Harry Potter and Pirates of the Caribbean films. Goldsmith didn't score a lot of blockbuster films like Williams did. Its entirely plausible he hasn't seen a film scored by Goldsmith. Probably not many current teenagers have! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,482 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 I Just started Cloverfield... and stoped it after 6 minutes. No. Next movie was supposed to be 10, Cloverfield Lane, can I skip it too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 On 18/08/2016 at 9:10 PM, bollemanneke said: The score had good moments, though Barry uses trumpets waaaay too often. That's because he was an ex-trumpeter! Not a great one though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 4 hours ago, Stefancos said: Bollemanneke, not Bollen... So in his teenage years he didsnt watch a single movie from the 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's or 2000's that featured a Goldsmith score? I find that very hard to believe. Indeed. Even I grew up seeing films like Gremlins, Medicine Man, Congo, The Edge, Air Force One, The Mummy, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 4 hours ago, Bespin said: Next movie was supposed to be 10, Cloverfield Lane, can I skip it too? 10 Cloverfield Lane is a totally different movie but you might stop watching that one as well. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 We watched Upstream Color tonight. If nothing else, it provided one of the most strange viewing experiences I've had in a long time. Not that far into it, I was very close to turning it off. I really can't remember the last time I turned off a movie, or wanted to turn off a movie, or walked out of a movie. But it was irking me for some reason I can't at all place. Since I wasn't watching it alone, and both "fuck it" keys weren't turned, it stayed on. I think, think, that it was worth finishing. It might be very good. It's definitely the sort of film that I'm glad can get made and reach some level of notability. Something about the very end made me tear up. Weird, weird experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Allow me to elaborate. First, Stefancos, do you like talking to yourself? Can I be the one who brings up your post count this time? The only Goldsmith music I know except for Total Recall is his Basic Instinct main theme, which was absolutely fantastic, and his Star Trek main theme which is good. This is going to sound rdiculous, but I have only been watching films for six years. I watch films using audio description (a commentary for blind/visually impaired people that explains what happens on screen). The UK and, to a lesser extent, the US, have been describing dozens and dozens of films for a very long time. However, I'm living in a country where people commonly think blind people don't care about films, and more importantly, are too dmub to understand and speak English, go to university etc. I only discovered AD by chance six years ago a new world opened up to me. Before that, I only watched films I had read the novels of (HP, LOTR etc). Now I can just look at the TV guide and download series/films with AD that look interesting to me, free of charge. Since then, I've been trying to fill the huge holes in my culture. Maybe the Belgian TV guides hate Goldsmith, or maybe I don't like any films he's scored. I dunno, but I haven't got a personal grudge against him. I mainly go for (romantic) drama/fantasy, maybe that's got something to do with it. Most action film plots don't appeal to me, but Total Recall did. Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 8 hours ago, TheWhiteRider said: We watched Upstream Color tonight. If nothing else, it provided one of the most strange viewing experiences I've had in a long time. Not that far into it, I was very close to turning it off. I really can't remember the last time I turned off a movie, or wanted to turn off a movie, or walked out of a movie. But it was irking me for some reason I can't at all place. Since I wasn't watching it alone, and both "fuck it" keys weren't turned, it stayed on. I think, think, that it was worth finishing. It might be very good. It's definitely the sort of film that I'm glad can get made and reach some level of notability. Something about the very end made me tear up. Weird, weird experience. I remember seeing the trailer for this and being very interested but never ended up seeking it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Watched The Hobbit trilogy in two days. I've never actually watched all three extended cuts from start to finish. I would only half-watch them with commentary track on while doing something else. How do they hold up? Both well and... not so well. While those films receive a lot of criticism and fail to generate much excitement, we have to also state that they are not all that bad after all. Certainly not prequel bad. You can actually see a lot of love and work went into making them. The acting is mostly great, there are some really good sequences and they are mostly undone by Jackson's over-indulgence and excessive running time. I would imagine a tight fan edit could turn them into a really solid adventure film. The second film is by far the best one. And the extended material actually makes it even better. Howard Shore's score is also the strongest in this second installment, ignoring some strange editing choices. It is the only entry in this series (speaking of both music and film) that actually feels like its own thing and where we get to see something a bit new. The third film is relatively solid in its first half but I completely lost interest once the battle started. The ending is ok but slightly too brief (oh, the irony). The first film is pleasant but bit aimless overall. However, it has the Gollum sequence which feels very much like an independent short film within that big story. What's funny, some of the special effects look absolutely horrendously bad while others are pretty good. The trilogy is very inconsistent like that. Some good fantasy sequences, some good character moments. But unconvincing as a whole. Still relatively watchable, though, even if only for the Middle-earth flavour and detail. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 15 hours ago, Bespin said: I Just started Cloverfield... and stoped it after 6 minutes. No. Next movie was supposed to be 10, Cloverfield Lane, can I skip it too? 10 Cloverfield Lane is not a found footage movie like Cloverfield. You might like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 I don't care how crappy the Hobbit films are, anything with Sylvester McCoy in it, is OK by me. Has anyone seen "The Five-ish Doctors"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 I have! Barrowman is straight???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Well... I love the way that the three Doctors end up as Sontarans. All the PJ stuff is brilliant. That man simply must direct a DW story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 McCoy was a rubbish Doctor though - even I know that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Definitely. Not as good looking as Crusher, less annoying than Bashir or Phlox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 1 hour ago, Lonnegan said: McCoy was a rubbish Doctor though - even I know that! Fuck you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 McCoy was a good Doctor, who was hampered by inappropriate companions (Mel), a lot of bad stories, and typical late-80s sensibilities. McCoy, himself, was good. I recommend "Rememberence Of The Daleks", and "The Curse Of Fenric", as examples of his "manipulative" Doctor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 20 hours ago, Bespin said: I Just started Cloverfield... and stoped it after 6 minutes. Great film. Near perfect for what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 It may have been 8 years ago that i saw it but i liked it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 2 hours ago, Richard said: Well... I love the way that the three Doctors end up as Sontarans. All the PJ stuff is brilliant. That man simply must direct a DW story. Has this actually been confirmed (or refuted) in any way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Oh, but that's good! When was this first posted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Some 8 months ago I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Right Here: http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/6934-the-doctor-who-thread/&do=findComment&comment=1193766 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon McBride 113 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 I watched the Lord of the Rings trilogy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 The Hobbit trilogy would have been so much better if they hadn't insisted on re-making LOTR. I watched them with commentary a short time ago. PJ keeps justifying longer running times and added plot lines even though I think he doesn't have any excuse for that. It simply isn't a story that requires three long films. As for the scores, I don't know what happened after AUJ but I largely totally lost interest after that, apart form the odd track. It sometimes felt like Silence of the Lambs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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