mstrox 6,654 Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 For such a small film, it's really been built into a modern classic. I watched it in my film class in college, so ~12 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 3 hours ago, Corellian2019 said: Isn't it weird how that's the first of Fincher's films to get a 4K release? Yes, but I don’t mind since it’s the longest overdue 😛 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,421 Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 It's kind of like how The Abyss and True Lies will go right to 4K, skipping over 1080P like Panic Room did too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corellian2019 386 Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 I think only The Abyss is being prepped for 4K, but I could be wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,421 Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 I mean True Lies has to come out eventually right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corellian2019 386 Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 As soon as Cameron and Fox get their act together! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,225 Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 I still hope that 4K will finally give us HD transfers of old classics that never made the leap to Blu-ray, like Captain Blood, The Sea Hawk and Arsenic and Old Lace. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Total Recall remake Aw man I was waiting for the bit when they'd fall down the hill and their faces turned all funny but it didn't happen. What a rip off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Always have the original! Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 If you want, you can tie me up! Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,355 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, Cherry Pie That'll Kill Ya said: Total Recall remake Aw man I was waiting for the bit when they'd fall down the hill and their faces turned all funny but it didn't happen. What a rip off. It totally lacked Verhoeven this remake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 And Rob Bottin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Stefancos said: And Rob Bottin! Paul Verhoeven always sounds like he's saying "Robo team" when he says his name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,384 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Would much rather have Arnie and the 18/R-pushing ultraviolence of the Verhoeven original. See also (without Arnie, obviously) Robocop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Of those remakes of 90s sci-fi action movies I keep hearing that the Dredd movie with Karl Urban is surprisingly good. I'll check it out....some day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,384 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 It's not really a remake. It is, however, far closer in spirit to the 2000AD comic strip than the Stallone movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,355 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 In the case of Dredd, the new one is much better than the old one. I hope that one day Garland gets to make some kind of sequel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,225 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 The Third Man Much better actually than I seemed to remember it from some 20 years ago. Not that I thought it was bad, it just wasn't really up to "classic" status in memory, which turned out to be wrong. It's in fact excellent. Good script and cast, Welles steals the scenes he's in, and it looks amazing. The film excels at authentically depicting Vienna and it's people (better than many local films, in fact), something that few foreign films fully succeed at (it reminds me of how convincing I found the various different language segments of Tarantino's Inglourious Basterds). The final chase is a bit unexciting from today's point of view, but it still gives us some excellent shots, and it's all wrapped up very well. The one aspect that actually doesn't convince me is the score. The famous zither theme is perfect in placing the film firmly in post WW2 Vienna, but it's not enough to carry the film. There's much more to the script, and at times the music even seems to mock the story's darker points. It might also be why the final chase isn't very engaging. It's absolutely the right score for parts of the film, but it doesn't do the full film justice. Also, having grown up and lived in Vienna for 39 years, it's of course fascinating to see so much of post war Vienna, and mostly presented quite coherently (there are a few sudden jumps from one corner of the city to another, but not many). Some locations are entirely familiar, while others have changed so much that they are hard to place. Side note: The area including the manhole that leads to the final chase (where today you can take guided tours to the film locations) is the same where 24 years later Scorpio would stage a lengthy chase across the construction site of Vienna's first subway). SteveMc and Disco Stu 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 One of my favorite films, that one. The Criterion release is a prized part of my collection. Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 The old landlady is my favorite character Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Marian Schedenig said: The final chase is a bit unexciting from today's point of view Utterly excellent film. I actually found the chase quite exciting, but I guess that's because I'm readily excited! Superb cinematography. I agree that the music never impressed me too much, but I don't think the film needed a golden age string fest for the suspenseful moments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 I like the use of the music, fits with the ironic, cynical tone of the setting and film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 6 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said: Also, having grown up and lived in Vienna for 39 years, it's of course fascinating to see so much of post war Vienna, and mostly presented quite coherently (there are a few sudden jumps from one corner of the city to another, but not many). I had the same experience when watching Billy Wilder's 'A Foreign Affair', shot in a bombed Berlin of 1948. That they were able (dared?) to make a great comedy out of this is gives me hope for WWIII. Marian Schedenig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 I'm actually hoping for WWIII so I'll get a quick death to end my tinnitus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 20 hours ago, Alexcremers said: It totally lacked Verhoeven this remake. Is that Lawrence Fishburn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,225 Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 12 hours ago, Disco Stu said: I like the use of the music, fits with the ironic, cynical tone of the setting and film. Hm. There's plenty of cynicism in the film, by the characters. That's why it fits the setting well. But I don't think the film itself presents its darker points in a cynical way, and that's where I think the score falls short. 7 hours ago, publicist said: I had the same experience when watching Billy Wilder's 'A Foreign Affair', shot in a bombed Berlin of 1948. That they were able (dared?) to make a great comedy out of this is gives me hope for WWIII. I haven't seen that yet, but last week I watched One, Two, Three, another film I hadn't seen in 20 years or so. Quite hilarious; about two thirds in it seems like it's nearly over, but that's only just before the film (and Cagney especially) switch to high energy mode and sustain that for an impressively long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said: Hm. There's plenty of cynicism in the film, by the characters. That's why it fits the setting well. But I don't think the film itself presents its darker points in a cynical way, and that's where I think the score falls short. I guess I can see your point while not agreeing. The film certainly has no moral gray area when it comes to Lime's crimes (heh, "Lime's crimes"). And definitely part of the pleasure of the film is watching Holly Martins' character almost completely drop his jaded, cynical facade. But he doesn't quite, not really IMO. In fact, the events of the film probably only serve to make him more jaded and kind of pathetic. I dunno, the music just worked for me. Either way, it's a goddamn classic film with the richness of a great novel! Enjoy this novelty version of the theme from Herb Alpert & The Tijuana Brass!! Marian Schedenig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 5 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said: I haven't seen that yet, but last week I watched One, Two, Three, another film I hadn't seen in 20 years or so. Quite hilarious; about two thirds in it seems like it's nearly over, but that's only just before the film (and Cagney especially) switch to high energy mode and sustain that for an impressively long time. And shot in Munich, complete with a replica of the Brandenburg Gate. Cagney interacting with his german flunky is for the ages: C.R. MacNamara: Just between us, Schlemmer, what did you do during the war?Schlemmer: I was in der Untergrund: the underground.C.R. MacNamara: Resistance fighter?Schlemmer: No, motorman. In the underground, you know, the subway.C.R. MacNamara: Of course you were anti-Nazi and you never liked Adolf.Schlemmer: Adolf who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,225 Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 If there's one thing that bothered me about it is that it frequently sets up a joke, then visually presents the punchline (e.g. the polka dot dress), but a minute later very deliberately points it out in the dialogue. The one instance where it doesn't do that is in a late scene when a squadron of men looking for a woman with "Russki go home" written on her breasts can be seen standing around in the background, each staring down the blouse of a different woman at Cagney's company, and it's all the funnier for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Wilder was often afraid that the audience wouldn't get stuff. Charles Brackett, his collaborator up to 'Sunset Boulevard' often reigned him in, later co-authors not so much. You should really watch 'A Foreign Affair'. There are several scenes, i. e. in the file cabinet, that are about as perfectly written as a a movie scene can be. And of course the sardonic wisecracks are also present ('Give a hungry man a loaf of bread, that's democracy, if you leave the wrapper on, that's imperialism.'). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Is Foreign Affair more palatable than His Girl Friday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Completely different animals. It's much more in line with (Wilder's own) 'Stalag 13' or 'The Third Man' (post WW2 locations), and of course Marlene Dietrich is the movie's femme fatale: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 No I know it's apples and oranges, but with His Girl Friday I expected something very different to what it was, and it wasn't the most enjoyable thing to get through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 I didn't mind it. All that fast talking was fun to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 I vouch for every Wilder film between 'Five Graves to Cairo' and 'Sabrina' (except for 'The Emperor Waltz' which was wretched...it was done as splashy Technicolor therapy measure after Wilder came back from the death mills in Dachau). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 I love the oldies so I'll definitely be having a look at A Foreign Affair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 I quite like Ace in the Hole. No wonder it didn't review well at the time though, the film didn't have a high opinion of journalists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,225 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 7 hours ago, publicist said: You should really watch 'A Foreign Affair'. I'm not sure I was even aware of it until now (the title seems familiar, but I didn't associate it with Wilder). I want to see every Wilder film at least once, so it's definitely going on the list. Also still searching for an affordable Blu-ray copy of Witness for the Prosecution. Another one I haven't seen in 20 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 I've been thinking about re-watching Anatomy of a Murder recently. I haven't seen it in years but I remember absolutely loving it. Post WWII Jimmy Stewart is basically my favorite era for any actor ever. Plus Duke Ellington's score gives the film a pretty unique tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 That is a fine film! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,603 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 @publicist, I think that's STALAG 17. 1 hour ago, Disco Stu said: I quite like Ace in the Hole. No wonder it didn't review well at the time though, the film didn't have a high opinion of journalists. ACE IN THE HOLE, is pure acid, and it's bloody brilliant. 47 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: I've been thinking about re-watching Anatomy of a Murder recently. I haven't seen it in years but I remember absolutely loving it. Post WWII Jimmy Stewart is basically my favorite era for any actor ever. Plus Duke Ellington's score gives the film a pretty unique tone. "Panties". publicist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Wet...panties? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,603 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Apparently, it is the first film to include the word "panties". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 I want to sniff your panties... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Disco Stu said: I quite like Ace in the Hole. No wonder it didn't review well at the time though, the film didn't have a high opinion of journalists. It didn't have high opinion of people. Wilder reckoned later that he alienated audiences by a) a lack of 'heroes' and b) held too big a mirror before them, with all the gloaters feasting on the emergency. 1 minute ago, Richard said: Apparently, it is the first film to include the word "panties". And "sperm". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,603 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,542 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Total Recall (I hope I don't have to specify this, but 1990) I'm not yet quite sure what I just witnessed but it was awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,603 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 1 minute ago, publicist said: ... held too big a mirror before them, with all the gloaters feasting on the emergency. Nothing's changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Bell Book and Candle Nice movie. And didn't Kim Novak have such a sexy stare on her? The cat was the star. publicist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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