Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 5 hours ago, Quintus said: Blimey, it happens to be at the drop of a hat. I can be listening to music in the car and suddenly feel something wash over me, it's a really amazing feeling actually. There's all sorts of ways in which I appreciate music. Quintus - almost completing the Drax 10-piece jigsaw with each new little insight drop he provides. Me as well. And it does often happen when I'm listening while driving. I think it's because, with my current life situation, the car is the only place I can play music really loudly and actually surrender myself to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 9 hours ago, KK said: Sometimes music draws on something raw and more vulnerable than what life is used to eliciting. It doesn't happen to me often, but with some select pieces, it has happened. I only ever listen to music because of its emotional effects, small or great. I've no interest in it in any other way. Thats why I struggle with some people here who seem to analyze it to death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Is it because you don't like people analyzing your emotions? Why is that, Stiff? Is it because of your troubled childhood? Talk to us, we are between friends here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 There's a reason why gingers are said to have no soul! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,206 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 16 hours ago, Godzilla said: If music makes people cry, I'd hate to think what real life does to them. If people who have a strong enough interest in music to collect tons of it and constantly listen to it can't be moved to tears by it, I don't understand what they see in life. 6 hours ago, Stefancos said: I only ever listen to music because of its emotional effects, small or great. I've no interest in it in any other way. Thats why I struggle with some people here who seem to analyze it to death. I see no reason to restrict it to one or the other. Romão 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Well you are a very deep man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,550 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 6 hours ago, Stefancos said: There's a reason why gingers are said to have no soul! I always thought big money got no soul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 I'd never had enough minutes to know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Raiders of the Lost Arc. Not bad at all, though it's indeed really funny how Indy doesn't contribute anything to the plot. John Williams' themes were of course great, but the rest of the score didn't make any impression on me, except for a few notes here and there. Even Marion's theme didn't move me at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Yes and no. The Ark would have been found eventually. The German dig team was in the same basic area of Tanis as the Well of Souls. Indeed, you can't see this bit of trivia, but when Indy and Marion escape from the Well, a German soldier is asleep next to the brick wall. Yes, somehow the Well is deep underground on a small hill, because escaping out of it sideways means pushing out a wall. The Germans should have looked there first. Someone should have found the Ark centuries prior. Indy's interference helped the German team get their hands on it sooner. Fortunately he was just nearby to bring it to America when its fatal power was unleashed, or it would have sat on that abandoned island for months, assuming that they didn't take it to Berlin to be opened. Ah, but that would have meant the destruction of the Third Reich in one awesome cataclysm, which would not have fit in the plausible history story the movie tries to tell. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 14 hours ago, Quintus said: Blimey, it happens to be at the drop of a hat. I can be listening to music in the car and suddenly feel something wash over me, it's a really amazing feeling actually. There's all sorts of ways in which I appreciate music. Indeed. The best music is the kind that elicits some kind of cathartic emotional experience. But to be clear, I was referring to the physical act of crying itself. And while that specifically, hasn't happened often. There are specific pieces that have an acute ability of bringing me to tears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 3 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said: If people who have a strong enough interest in music to collect tons of it and constantly listen to it can't be moved to tears by it, I don't understand what they see in life. I still don't get what could be so upsetting about it that it would provoke someone into a sobbing, hysterical mess. Unless some people are particularly volatile emotionally? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 It's not necessarily the music itself Drax, but rather what we project onto the music. Sometimes the right kind of music can connect you to a just the right kind of emotional memory or state that leaves you in tears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Quintus 5,399 Posted April 5, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted April 5, 2017 Becoming teary eyed on occasion isn't necessarily a response just to the harmonic qualities in the music, either. For me it can happen for all sorts of different reasons. It can occur because I suddenly feel a profound appreciation for the performance timbre of the musical sound which exists exclusively in the occasion of the recording itself, the sense of compositional achievement in that moment being a striking realisation of some kind of cosmic connection to the pure aesthetics of it. This all sounds like hyperbole to an emotionally underdeveloped person like Drax (his parents will remember the diagnosis), but these innate things are difficult to speak about in eloquent, sensible terms. It sounds like a cop-out to type it here, but now and again music can be a powerful delirium beyond simple words. One could listen to the same piece of favourable music more then a dozen times and feel only the most basic arbitrary response to it, but on another occasion the same piece might inexplicably illicit great surges of unexpected goosebumps along the arms and unplanned man tears. Sometimes I think it's a strange combination of timing and surroundings, but it's much more complex than that. It's a very special thing. When it happens it's a really wonderful feeling to experience, and about as life affirming as anything can be. Not Mr. Big, Koray Savas and KK 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Hey I get goosebumps, but I think sobbing is a bit extreme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 I only cry at the end of Star Trek II. However, I recently balled at the end of Doctor Who: "Doomsday" because I'm like a fucking woman sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 It's impossible to not cry at the end of Doomsday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 35 minutes ago, Selina Kyle said: I only cry at the end of Star Trek II. However, I recently balled at the end of Doctor Who: "Doomsday" because I'm like a fucking woman sometimes. I think you mean bawled. Balled means something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Bawled! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Stttt.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 19 hours ago, Godzilla said: I still don't get what could be so upsetting about it that it would provoke someone into a sobbing, hysterical mess. Unless some people are particularly volatile emotionally? May have something to do with age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 A sobbing hysterical mess in response to music would likely be more attributable to something like bipolar disorder, severe depression or schizophrenia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Unless it's E.T. Then it's perfectly normal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Oh the emotional ecstasy experienced while listening to ET is like being reborn from the womb as a fully grown multimillionaire playboy with a 9" dick. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 5 hours ago, Quintus said: A sobbing hysterical mess in response to music would likely be more attributable to something like bipolar disorder, severe depression or schizophrenia. That's just the mental image I get when someone says a film or piece of music made them "bawl", "weep", "cry", etc. It all just sounds too melodramatic, and I suspect people might be exaggerating their description of their [over]reaction to the artwork in order to validate their liking for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Just come to terms that you're an emotionless dirtbag and leave others to their media! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Thing is, movies have made me sad, happy, angry, disgusted, etc. But it was always more on the inside. I couldn't imagine it manifesting into a fit of tears. It just seems like an overreaction to something so trivial. If a loved one dies, or the bank takes your house, or you lose a limb, or lose your job, yeah sure cry all you like! That's perfectly understandable! But crying at movies or music? I'm still lost on that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Don't think anyone is saying they burst into a fit of tears. A nice hardy stream down the cheeks is most probable. At least that's what happens to me if something hits the right chord (i.e. the whipping scene in 12 Years A Slave). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 8 minutes ago, Koray Savas said: At least that's what happens to me if something hits the right chord (i.e. the whipping scene in 12 Years A Slave). I masturbated to that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Wanker! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Guilty as charged! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 What is that robot thing and that car wreck doing in from of the Moria gate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 So if I cry at the end of Star Trek II, it's due to bipolar disorder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 It's because Spock died, and he will never come back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 25 minutes ago, Selina Kyle said: So if I cry at the end of Star Trek II, it's due to bipolar disorder? Outright audible sobbing, or lump in your throat watery eyes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 ¿¿¿ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Crying is crying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 There are variable degrees of crying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Just now, Godzilla said: There are variable degrees of crying. Who has told you this, since you have no concept of human emotions yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 I was trying to comprehend the meaning of the words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 5 minutes ago, Selina Kyle said: Crying is crying. Drax is right though. There are different tiers of tears. Which level do you exhibit with Star Trek? It isn't a difficult question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Only one movie has ever actually reduced me to heaving sobs (I was being hyperbolic about E.T. on a previous page of this thread) and that's Life Itself, the documentary following Roger Ebert's final days. That was definitely a combination of my relationship to Ebert's work and where I was in my life at that time. Most movies when I say they made me cry, I mean a few silent tears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 A few tears at most. Or just an emotional welling up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Well why don't people just say that? I keep getting the alarming impression that people are being reduced to a sobbing, hysterical wreck by a movie or a piece of music. And I hear this from people so often, I'm like "yeah it was a sad movie, but like, really?!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 It's called hyperbole. People use it to emphasize that they have strong feelings about something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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