publicist 4,643 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Pussy seems much more fitting, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Meh. At any rate, I think I've said all I care to say. King Mark, I do apologize for participating in the derailment of your thread, and for generally fouling things up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Thanks KM. You started a thread about the Middle-Earth, the first one with some action in it. Then others are tiring comparing to this beauty. Koray Savas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 All Hail King Mark, King of Kanadia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Can't wait for Hobbit 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 31, 2013 Author Share Posted December 31, 2013 Excellent , everything is proceeding as I have foreseen Smeltington and Glóin the Dark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 All Hail King Mark, King of Kanadia.I thought we only had a Queen....is it time to change the lyrics?God save our gracious King,Live long our noble King,God save the King! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 King Mark is an original Member of the Phantom Trio KK, he has been ruler of Kanadia for as long as anyone on JRRTfan.com can remember. He is not a King, he is THE KING. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 The Return of the King Mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 King Mark is an original Member of the Phantom Trio KK, he has been ruler of Kanadia for as long as anyone on JRRTfan.com can remember. He is not a King, he is THE KING.Ahh, I see. So his lineage traces back to the Golden Age of these forums, the tales and folklore of an era gone by of which I've only heard rumours of.Someone must enlighten me on this famed Phantom Trio... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 The original Trio consisted of Me, King Mark and Crushercomix. But Crusher and KM went into dotage. One descending into religious madness, the other into booze.A second Trio formed, consisting of me, Indysolo (Neil S. Bulk, who was moderator here) and Renovia, Queen of the MB.Both are currently not posting.I'm hiring! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 I'm hiring!When are the auditions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 On Derp Derp Derp! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 There have been three pages of posts on this thread since I last visited, and I was worried that I missed something interesting or important, but nope! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 This is JWFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 The original Trio consisted of Me, King Mark and Crushercomix. But Crusher and KM went into dotage. One descending into religious madness, the other into booze.A second Trio formed, consisting of me, Indysolo (Neil S. Bulk, who was moderator here) and Renovia, Queen of the MB.Both are currently not posting.I'm hiring!you forget one small detail. I dubbed thee the title. As far as I'm concerned the original trio still reigns. Can still posts...from time to time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 with so bad sfx i cant believe anyone really enyojed that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Was the dragon anatomically accurate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted January 5, 2014 Author Share Posted January 5, 2014 I thought for a second it became a "gold dragon" and would stay that way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 That would have been cool actually."My armour is gold" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 PJ does not rely on the EEs to fix the films He did fix TTT with the EE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 For some reason every time I see this thread I'm reminded of CE3K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 PJ does not rely on the EEs to fix the filmsHe did fix TTT with the EE.In what way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glóin the Dark 1,222 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 I think that he unequivocally improved The Fellowship of the Ring with its extension, on balance improved The Two Towers, and on balance diminished The Return of the King. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Diminished? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 He did fix TTT with the EE. In what way? Faramir's character, which has to carry a significant part of the film, is pretty butchered by all the cuts to the theatrical version, and in my opinion (and that of most friends I've talked to about it) simply doesn't work. As a result, the entire storyline involving him feels awkward, unfocused and random. The EE fixes all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glóin the Dark 1,222 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Diminished?On balance. The extensions add welcome colour and variety while sometimes disrupting what had been a well-controlled sense of momentum. I would probably come out in favour of the extension were it not for the disruption caused to the charge of the Rohirrim on arrival at the Pelennor Fields - the high point of the entire trilm for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 My main gripe with the EE is that is destroys any suspense regarding the black corsairs from Umbar.My main gripe with the TTT EE is the short scene early in the film already showing too clearly Gollum's Slinker/Stinker persona's. Something the theatrical version doesn't highlight until the classic scene later in the film Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 I think that he unequivocally improved The Fellowship of the Ring with its extension, on balance improved The Two Towers, and on balance diminished The Return of the King.I prefer the theatrical cut of FotR. In general I prefer the theatrical cuts of each film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 So do I, but there are some great gems in the EEs, and some great scenes that I wish were kept in the theatrical cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 There have been three pages of posts on this thread since I last visited, and I was worried that I missed something interesting or important, but nope!The main reason why I stay out of any and all Tolkien disccusions is because 5 pages gets tacked on to each thread every day. Seeing this one follow suit made me stay away, but I'm glad I came back, albeit too late. Missed all the Joey action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 So do I, but there are some great gems in the EEs, and some great scenes that I wish were kept in the theatrical cut.That's how I feel about it too. It's frustrating, because there's some really nice additions, but most of the added stuff I think is unnecessary and even boring. And with FotR I find the extra footage very early on is even damaging and just not worth the later gems trade-off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glóin the Dark 1,222 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 I prefer the theatrical cut of FotR.The thing that makes the extended edition a far superior film for me is the fleshing-out of the Lothlórien segment - not because I'm necessarily a huge Lothlóriophile, but because I find that it makes the film feel much more satisfying structurally. In particular, the two halves of the extended version (and this is the only one of the EEs which splits perfectly into two parts across the two discs) have complementary forms. Part 1, to oversimplify grossly, has a slow-fast-slow form (i.e. two largely expository segments sandwiching a segment of intense activity); then Part 2 has a fast-slow-fast form, with the more serene version of Lothlórien serving as a respite between two vigorous outer layers. The shorter Lothlórien, with its heavier focus on maintaining a threatening mood, doesn't have the same relaxing effect. I think that it's mainly because of this that I always find that the extended edition feels shorter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,692 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 I felt TTT was hurt by the theatrical edition - some parts feel a little rushed. The EE is a much better film IMO.RotK could use a lot of trimming I think. Never had any complaints about FotR, and that's partly due to the more linear story, and partly because the first film has a lot to prove that the sequels don't. (once you've got them with one film, they'll automatically want to see the rest.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 The problem with ROTK is that it's the movie that has to wrap everything up.Fellowship follows the book the closest of all 3 films, and ends at almost exactly the same place the book ends (one chapter into TTT actually)With The Two Towers they took a very different approach, by magnifying the importance of the Helms Deep siege and battle, which in the book takes up one chapter, but in the film becomes the main focus and climax of the picture.So much of the rest of the book was pushed to the next film. The whole SAruman resolution, the finding of the Palantir, Pippin looking at it and the decision to go to Minas Tirith. Plus a very large chunk of the Sam/Frodo story from TTT was all relegated to ROTK. Leaving that film to carry far more of the actual plot then the other two films. The theatrical version feels like it's constantly rushing, going from one plot point to another while not having the time to dwell much on details, because there is sooo much still to cover.The EE is, in that regard an improvement. It adds some dimension to characters and events. But even in it's extended form it remains by far the most uneven film of the trilogy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurgaFlippinMan 7 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 I think that he unequivocally improved The Fellowship of the Ring with its extension, on balance improved The Two Towers, and on balance diminished The Return of the King.I prefer the theatrical cut of FotR. In general I prefer the theatrical cuts of each film.I agree with both statements. I do wish the Lothlorien gifts scene was left in the theatrical edition though. For TTT and ROTK, the EEs do nothing but extend the already boring parts for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 I'd like the theatrical cuts, plus some choice scenes - Aragorn singing about Beren, the mithril mines, Galadriel's gifts, Saruman's death, the Mouth of Sauron, and maybe some others here and there I'm forgetting. That would be the ideal cut for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Myself and Charlie Bridgen are still holding out for a 20th Anniversary MAKE YOUR OWN CUT Special Edition Blu-ray release.Stupidly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Oh I'd also add the whole reworked Shire opening with Bilbo's narration to that list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Saruman's death should have NEVER been removed from the TTT. That was scandalous treatment of both the character and Lee, and just really bad design. What a foolish move it turned out to be.Ten years later it's far less surprising than it was, coming from Jackson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 You wanted that scene in TTT rather than ROTK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 It would have been incredibly anticlimactic at the end of TTT. Makes no sense to put it there.But it should have opened ROTK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 That scene is hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 THIS is hilarious:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaqC5FnvAEcTHIS is hilarious: Glóin the Dark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 It would have been incredibly anticlimactic at the end of TTT. Makes no sense to put it there.But it should have opened ROTK.Sorry that's what I meant. The beginning of RotK. I haven't watched THE TRILOGY in five years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Yeah it's silly. Your main villain of two movies doesn't even get a proper ending? While the floating eyeball gets all the glory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted January 6, 2014 Author Share Posted January 6, 2014 I'm not sure why I'm not a bigger LotR/Hobbit fan since Medieval/fantasy RPG video games are my absolute favoriteThe Hobbit Trilogy is getting closer to that so I guess I'm liking the Hobbit trilogy more than LotR.At least Gandalf is using magic spells now and the sets have a more high fantasy look to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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