Arpy 4,145 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 I always took Return of the Jedi to mean a return of the Jedi, plural. The idea of the Jedi had returned, starting with Luke... Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 I always figured it was about Rey. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Anakin is the returning Jedi in ROTJ. leeallen01 and Bilbo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bofur01 245 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Nah, it's Obi-Wan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 39 minutes ago, RPurton said: I always took Return of the Jedi to mean a return of the Jedi, plural. The idea of the Jedi had returned, starting with Luke... Yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post John 2,032 Posted March 30, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2017 The "returning Jedi" in the title of ROTJ is indeed Anakin Skywalker. This is in Luke Skywalker's biography on starwars.com: leeallen01, Will and Bilbo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Joke's on Anakin, the Force didn't stay balanced for long! Sucker! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Load of rubbish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 It's your opinion versus a proven fact on starwars.com! leeallen01 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 4 minutes ago, BloodBoal said: Never really understood that concept of "Balance Of The Force", anyway. Doesn't "balance" imply there are just as many Sith as there are Jedi? So that the dark side and light side exist in equal measure? If that's it, then there never was much balance to begin with, and killing Palpatine certainly didn't restore the balance! I'm pretty sure Lucas was addicted to painkillers or some other drug when writing Phantom Menace (when he came up with all the chosen one/midichlorians bullshit). John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 My guess is that he took that little nugget from the Ying/Yang philosophy. The Force cribs from all sorts of religions and philosophical thinking. In the Star Wars universe that must mean that the light and dark sides must always be of equal strength, which at no point in any of the films they ever are. Seriously, Star Wars religion doesnt hold up in any way once you start thinking about it. Worse than "real" religions, worse than Star Trek even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Doesn't everyone in Star Trek have an atheistic/humanistic worldview? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Only the humans do, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 10 hours ago, BloodBoal said: Do we even know if Jedi is meant to be singular in the title? I mean, sure, in some countries where the language makes a distinction, it clearly appears as singular in the title, but did the translators really put much care into such things back then? Did they follow Lucas' intentions/did Lucas tell them it was meant to be singular, or did they just assume it was singular? Maybe it's meant to be plural, and the Return Of The Jedi means the return of the Jedi Order. That's always been my take. Obviously that has nothing to do with what Lucas intended at various times, of course. I've never really looked into that. I personally love the spirituality in Star Wars, by the way, even if I don't completely understand every single bit of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 7 hours ago, JohnSolo said: The "returning Jedi" in the title of ROTJ is indeed Anakin Skywalker. This is in Luke Skywalker's biography on starwars.com: Balance was brought back to the Force with Anakin's return to the Light Side, as instigated by his son Luke, a Jedi. So it's a return of the 'Jedi' plural. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 This whole singular vs plural debate would have been naught if the title was simply either The Jedi Returns or The Jedi Return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 4 hours ago, RPurton said: Balance was brought back to the Force with Anakin's return to the Light Side, as instigated by his son Luke, a Jedi. So it's a return of the 'Jedi' plural. How does the destruction of the Sith lead to balance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BloodBoal 7,538 Posted March 31, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2017 igger6, #SnowyVernalSpringsEternal and Will 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Jedi Master Trump! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 2 hours ago, BloodBoal said: The "balance of the Force" is FAKE NEWS spread by the LYING Jedi so that nobody would question their authority. Hopefully, someday, someone will restore the TRUTH and let everyone know Sith have been persecuted UNJUSTLY for centuries by the LYING Jedi. The Sith are welcome to present alternate facts on this matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 2 hours ago, BloodBoal said: The "balance of the Force" is FAKE NEWS spread by the LYING Jedi so that nobody would question their authority. Hopefully, someday, someone will restore the TRUTH and let everyone know Sith have been persecuted UNJUSTLY for centuries by the LYING Jedi. That's more then 140 characters! igger6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 #SithLivesMatter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 "How low has Chancellor Valama gone to tapp my holograms during the very sacred election process/destroying the last vestiges of the Jedi order. This is Tyrannus/Sifo Dyas. Bad (or sick) guy!" - Supreme Chancellor Trumpetine Will and John 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Arpy and Bilbo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Fuck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 http://movieweb.com/star-wars-8-casino-planet-canto-bight/ Now that sounds like a neat planet. Think "planet-sized Las Vegas". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Will this look like the casino level in Sonic 2? igger6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 I could listen to that forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 3 hours ago, JohnSolo said: http://movieweb.com/star-wars-8-casino-planet-canto-bight/ Now that sounds like a neat planet. Think "planet-sized Las Vegas". Yes, ever since they started filming in Dubrovnik, I was entranced by that planet, and further descriptions from MSW have only heightened my anticipation. I did see that MSW report yesterday (http://makingstarwars.net/2017/04/the-name-of-the-dubrovnik-planet-from-star-wars-the-last-jedi/). Apparently photos of police helmets from shooting said "CBPD" in Aurebesh, so presumably that is "Canto Bight Police Department" (perhaps that would be an indication that this is the real name and not just a placeholder). Personally, I don't really like the name as a planet name ... however, Jason Ward, who wrote the article, has admitted that it could actually be the name of one city, not the entire planet. And ... I would love a planet named Canto with its major city named Canto Bight. Canto sounds like an awesome name. And Canto Bight would really fit the city because "bight" means "a curve or recess in a coastline, river, or other geographical feature." Look at Dubrovnik (ignore the bottom TFA concept art for "Exotic City") - right on the water! Further news, by the way (SPOILERS): Making Star Wars: Info on Benicio Del Toro's Ship, The Jail, and Two New Character Names or Codenames That ship sounds awesome! I do hope that Del Toro name is a codename. Doesn't sound very Star Wars-y. However, Marie Tran's sounds Star Wars-y enough so I wouldn't mind if it was the real name. John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 It's all lies man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Not just the fact that they've filmed in Dubrovnik. He's apparently seen set photos (some which have been posted publicly and some that haven't) and concept art, as well as spoken to people involved in the production. And I trust him because: a) He was right on the money on tons of TFA scoops (and definitely not just the kind of stuff you could guess), as well as his Rogue One reports, with very few exceptions (mostly, I believe, in the early days of TFA, due to an over-reliance on early concept art). b) He generally avoids being overly sensationalist. To be sure, he approaches his reports with the enthusiasm of a die-hard fan, but I love that and don't see it as a weakness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 5 minutes ago, BloodBoal said: It's not that I don't trust him or anything. It's just that "the prequels meet Game Of Thrones" doesn't mean much to me, as I just can't picture how you could mesh these two things that couldn't possibly be much further apart from one another, visually. But, hey, who knows? Maybe when I'll see the film I'll be like: "Oh, I see what he meant by that! Spot-on!" I haven't even watched Game of Thrones. But I think what he was referring to with Game of Thrones (and he clarified this) was the aspect of "high fashion," which I think from the few photos I've seen is definitely present in that show (and is also present in the prequels, which I have watched!). We'll hopefully see a little of what he's talking about soon, in any case, with the first trailer likely to come out next Friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Will 2,215 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 59 minutes ago, BloodBoal said: There's nothing "high fashion" in Game Of Thrones! Are you joking or serious? (Or are you not thinking of the same definition of "high fashion" that I am?) John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 High fashion? What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Pieter Boelen 740 Posted April 6, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted April 6, 2017 Yep, the above indeed looks like the fashion designer was high! Will, mstrox and Unlucky Bastard 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 @BloodBoal, the definition is, according to Google: Quote expensive, fashionable clothes produced by leading fashion houses Yes, it's definitely debatable whether the Game of Thrones stuff I showed above expressly fits the definition (or other colloquial definitions that may exist), but in any case I do believe that it was this rather flamboyant style (at least in comparison to the dirty, grimy fashion in much of the SW universe) that Ward was referring to. Other stuff MSW has reported supports that interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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crumbs 14,318 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 So... how about those Jedi, ey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Or The Walking Dead! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,318 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 And what kind of fashionable clothes will Jedi wear in the New Republic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 The only Jedi who looks like someone from TWD was Anakin, after his unfortunate little tumble down a lava bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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