Jay 37,476 Posted December 8, 2016 Author Share Posted December 8, 2016 Vin Diesel hints Marvel may be planning Groot and Rocket Raccoon spinoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,364 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 Let's first wait and see how good the second movie will be and take it from there, Vin Diesel and Marvel. Imagine Villeneuve already going on about Blade Runner 3. Wouldn't that be a little presumptuous? One step at a time, folks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 Could be good. Now please cast Val Kilmer, George Clooney and Christian Bale as the next few Marvel villains. Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,051 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 42 minutes ago, BloodBoal said: Keaton is back as the Bird Man! Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 I still think the MCU is quite a cinematic accomplishment despite its drawbacks, like the homogenized visual look. This movie could be fun. I'm resigned to the fact that we'll never get a superhero movie as good as Spider-Man 2, the apotheosis of the form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,476 Posted December 9, 2016 Author Share Posted December 9, 2016 Looks good!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,364 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 Marvel or Sony brings in popular Tony Stark because Spider-Man alone might not be enough to sell tickets (the last ones probably didn't do so well). Don't understand the enthusiasm here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 Marvel executives have to convince the shareholders that Spider-man is still a financially viable concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,476 Posted December 9, 2016 Author Share Posted December 9, 2016 The last two Spider-man films made $700 million dollars each. This one will make a billion, and looks better written and casted anyway Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 In terms of the genre, 700 million is a disappointment. Thor 2 money! 1 minute ago, Jay said: The last two Spider-man films made $700 million dollars each. This one will make a billion, and looks better written and casted anyway What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,476 Posted December 9, 2016 Author Share Posted December 9, 2016 I think the cast of this film is better than the cast of The Amazing Spider-man 2. Do you disagree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 I can't judge because I haven't seen The Amazing Spider-man 2 or this new trailer. But its obvious you are responding to it the way Marvel wants.... Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,364 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 10 minutes ago, Stefancos said: I haven't seen The Amazing Spider-man 2 ... It's unwatchable, IMO. It felt very 'forced'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,493 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 I don't think it looks good at all aside from Michael Keaton killing everybody he loves. I get why they keep rebooting Spider-Man (I guess), but no one has really embraced them since Spider-Man 2. Matt C 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 Like Civil War, where they forced in the new Spidey at the last minute? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,493 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 It's a bad sign when they use so many clips in the trailer from the obviously one Tony Stark cameo scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,364 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 Maybe Spider-Man is not a 21st century superhero. Maybe kids today think of him as someone their parents liked. Superman might also be considered 'previous century'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 It's a pity they never made even one good Spider-man film! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,364 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 Isn't the Toby Maquire one being regarded as a classic around these parts, Steef? You're playing a dangerous game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 I've always found them to be far too melodramatic. Raimi didnt find the correct tone for them, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 I think the second Raimi one is one of the best "popcorn movies" ever made. But I don't really care if Steef likes it or not. Gruesome Son of a Bitch and Bilbo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 The second one is one of the most overrated movies of the decade. It hit a chord in post 9/11 America obviously, but it really isn't a particularly good film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,661 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 The first Spider-man - I love it. The melodrama struck a big chord with me as a frequently lovelorn 16 year old at the time. Elfman's score was great. Kirsten Dunst was a great girl-next-door Mary Jane (IMO). Maguire was serviceable. After that, pretty much each Spider-man movie has had diminishing returns from the last. Spidey 3 was bad but fun in a lot of ways. Amazing Spider-man was well made and acted, but not really all that fun. Amazing Spider-Man 2 was a mess that I count among my least favorite movies of the past few years. I did really like the new take in Cap 3, so hopefully that will translate well tonally into a full length. I'm not watching the new trailer (or the new GOTG trailer) yet because I'm expecting to see both of them in theaters next week w/ Rogue One. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 Kirsten Dunst is awful in these films, and her character is no Mary Jane! Total wet blanket! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,364 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 The opening scene of Spider-Man 2 was great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 One great opening scene doesn't make a great film though. The first 40 minutes of Spider-man 3 was pretty good too IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,661 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 22 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Kirsten Dunst is awful in these films, and her character is no Mary Jane! Total wet blanket! Agree to disagree! I don't read the comics, so I don't have a comparison - but she was great for the character as written on-screen. (In my opinion) I was more of a DC/Batman person growing up, and now in comics I pretty much only read Star Wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 Awful character. "My boyfriend saves lives every day. But he doesn't have time to take me out. So i'm chronically unhappy." Entitled bitch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,661 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 Well, she didn't know Peter was Spider-man until the end of part 2, right? So that falls well within my "getting worse as time goes on" opinion. I think her take on the kooky/awkward girl next door worked well. I found her charming in Part 1. (That's also the only one I've seen more than once, so I have more opinions about it, I guess). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,661 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 In the first Spider-man, the character was just a Peter Parker love interest. She wasn't whining about her superhero boyfriend, because by the end of the movie Peter's love was barely requited, and she didn't know who he was. So your complaint about the character doesn't apply to the one Spider-man movie I really like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 I can barely recall the first one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skelly 261 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 I like Spider-Man 3 not as a serious continuation of Peter's journey but as a fun, quirky bookend. The number of unintentionally hilarious moments in that movie is outstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,476 Posted December 9, 2016 Author Share Posted December 9, 2016 International Version of the trailer features different scenes and more Keaton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 456 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 The digital cinematography in Homecoming is really ugly -- like that Tony Stark scene in the limo. I like the homages to Batman and Spider-Man 2, and it seems like quirky fun. One thing is for certain: Marvel needs to get stop mandating digital for their films. It's not necessarily cheaper than film. Let the director decide whether s/he wants to use film, digital, or both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 Digital can look as good or better than film. Are people still having this discussion? Deakins proved this with Skyfall. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,493 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 Spider-Man 2 is fantastic. I don't even like Marvel funny book movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,364 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 I got really annoyed with Spider-Man's 'funny' comments when he's fighting in The Amazing Spider-Man 2 (which I quickly turned off) and during Civil War. You guys love that, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 It's a trademark for the character though. Civil War might have been the film that shattered the Marvel dream. What started out as an interesting experiment in connecting a franchise too soon became an instrument of mediocrity. Every trace of individual creativity erased. Every part of the once rich Marvel universe speaking in the same tones. Aproved by the shareholders, after extensive market and target group research and analyses! This started after Disney took over Marvel, and now they own Star Wars and Indiana Jones too. All these once indiviual franchises reshaped to fall into line with the other products. Strength in uniformity! Creating a recognizable brand! Creativity is dead in Hollywood, Alex! Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 Civil War was good Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 No Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 Yes Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,364 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Double no! Winter Soldier was good. Civil War's problem as a movie is that they wanted to put too much into it. Oh, let's do a bit of this. Oh, let's do a bit of that. Oh, and what about Spider-Man? Oh, he must be in there too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Did you notice how Civil War lacks the interesting creativity that the Brothers displayed in The Winter Soldier? They were probably warned against it if they wanted to do the next two Avengers films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,364 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Yes, it felt something was changed too. I thought it was due to an overfull script that was going all directions. For instance, the action scenes, when judged on their own, are still impressive . Too bad that the movie itself isn't up to par. Heck, I bought the Blu-ray of Winter Soldier but I don't feel like watching Civil War again. If that isn't proof, then I don't know what it! Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Perhaps it is the script. But the Avengers films will be over more overstuffed, and they cost a fortune to make so Marvel and Disney will want to play it safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,364 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 8 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Perhaps it is the script. But the Avengers films will be over more overstuffed More hotchpotches, I'm sure. When you make a movie where so many superheroes and supervillains want their moment of glory then you're not putting the movie first. You're only trying to satisfy the fans of those characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 At least Thanos will be cool, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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