A24 4,333 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 That's how corrupt these cops are, Gruesome. bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Cremers thinks it's cops who are looting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 What a nutjob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 9 minutes ago, PuhgreÞiviÞm said: Cremers thinks it's cops who are looting. Cops do the shooting, not the looting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Just now, bruce marshall said: Cops do the shooting, not the looting. They shoot the looters, as they're supposed to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Watching Fox News makes you less informed than watching no news at all. https://www.businessinsider.com/study-watching-fox-news-makes-you-less-informed-than-watching-no-news-at-all-2012-5?r=US&IR=T Could explain why Drax and Gruesome come across as thickheaded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 1 hour ago, AC1 said: The same can be said about BvS, which was surprisingly decent up until the final act, which starts with the infamous "Wait! Your mother's name is Martha?" scene. From that moment on, the movie was surprisingly bad. Still, Venom was so childish, Venom's voice such a terrible idea, the humor so poor ... It never had any potential from the start. The humor was godawful and I would say that where the bones of a genuine film are buried in a piece of shit like Venom, BvS is a hollow, disingenuous, sloppy, poorly written film that takes both characters of Batman and Superman and turns them into action figures, chucked at the wall like a child playing with them. The difference between a child and a director playing though, is that one has heart and imagination and the other is paid to make movies. There is no heart or soul in BvS, no genuine characters and the two iconic characters are nothing more than halloween costumes in a nightmare of CGI. Somehow it's worse than Man of Steel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, bruce marshall said: Cops do the shooting, not the looting. Never heard of the Agent Provocateur tactic? bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 1 minute ago, AC1 said: Watching Fox News makes you less informed than watching no news at all. https://www.businessinsider.com/study-watching-fox-news-makes-you-less-informed-than-watching-no-news-at-all-2012-5?r=US&IR=T Could explain why Drax and Gruesome come across as thickheaded. Is the one you call " Drax" the Trump lover? I call him KOTM😊 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, AC1 said: Watching Fox News makes you less informed than watching no news at all. https://www.businessinsider.com/study-watching-fox-news-makes-you-less-informed-than-watching-no-news-at-all-2012-5?r=US&IR=T Could explain why Drax and Gruesome come across as thickheaded. Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 1 minute ago, AC1 said: Never heard of the Agent Provocateur tactic? I hadn't finished my post. Thanks for clarifying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Bunch of nutjobs Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, bruce marshall said: Is the one you call " Drax" the Trump lover? I call him KOTM😊 Yes, the Trump lover. Heck, he's even planning to dress up as a police officer and protect the Orange One when he refuses to leave the WH in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 1 minute ago, AC1 said: Yes, the Trump lover. Heck, he's even planning to dress up as a police officer and protect the Orange One when he refuses to leave the WH in January. You nuts really think he's gonna lose, huh. Ah well, leave you to your false sense of security! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 They're not gonna get there. We're not gonna let it happen. We're not gonna let our country be destroyed by a bunch of nutjobs. Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, Gruesome Son of a Bitch said: They're not gonna get there. We're not gonna let it happen. We're not gonna let our country be destroyed by a bunch of nutjobs. Another T***p voter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, Gruesome Son of a Bitch said: They're not gonna get there. We're not gonna let it happen. We're not gonna let our country be destroyed by a bunch of nutjobs. Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, PuhgreÞiviÞm said: Mutual masturbation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 1 minute ago, bruce marshall said: Mutual masturbation. Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 I was referring to the Gruesome twosome. They don't need a hot chick.Just each other and a bunch of flag draped dildos 5 minutes ago, PuhgreÞiviÞm said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 3 hours ago, AC1 said: No, unlike me, Steef, Quint and Richard thought this scene from MOS was funny. What a fucking joke. Right after Superman threatens humanity by smashing a satellite in front of the military, instead of being scared shitless, they just make this horribly out of place banter like nothing happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,360 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Even for a character where I think a certain amount of darkness is appropriate, The Batman looks utterly bloody humourless ... even the Nolan/Bale trilogy had its lighter moments (the Bruce and Lucius Fox scenes for example, 'tipping the hat' to the Bond franchise's Q-Branch scenes). I'm not saying it'll flop necessarily, but isn't it just possible that after this clusterfuck of a year people will be looking for a bit of uplifting escapist fun (as opposed to unrelenting gloom) from their big-screen heroes? Matt C 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 45 minutes ago, Sweeping Strings said: Even for a character where I think a certain amount of darkness is appropriate, The Batman looks utterly bloody humourless ... even the Nolan/Bale trilogy had its lighter moments (the Bruce and Lucius Fox scenes for example, 'tipping the hat' to the Bond franchise's Q-Branch scenes). I'm not saying it'll flop necessarily, but isn't it just possible that after this clusterfuck of a year people will be looking for a bit of uplifting escapist fun (as opposed to unrelenting gloom) from their big-screen heroes? Well, you will have your WW84, which will be filled with lighthearted '80s stuff. Everybody happy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted September 1, 2020 Author Share Posted September 1, 2020 Political talk isn't allowed on JWFan, keep it up and I'll have to ban people. Sorry! TheUlyssesian and Edmilson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 @Sweeping Strings All we've seen is the trailer and I've never known Batman to be anything other than dark and edgy. The Nolan trilogy had some lighter moments, but it was still dark and a little depressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 I guess the good thing about giving Batman his own movie again, is that it hopefully keeps him out of any potential Superman movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,454 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 DC should've used the Fandome to announce a new Superman movie starring Henry Cavill. Or at least to put him on the next Flash movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, Edmilson said: DC should've used the Fandome to announce a new Superman movie starring Henry Cavill. Wait! Isn't it time for a reboot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondheim 1,157 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 The Batman trailer is not a perfect indication of the film's tone because only about 25% of the movie is shot, congregating on a few sequences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 I'm a 100% sure the rest will have the same tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondheim 1,157 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 I think so too, but who knows. Everyone keeps throwing the words 'human' and 'relatable' around. And Colin Farrell is apparently having a blast, as is Zoe Kravitz. I am sure there will be humor there, even if it is only from Andy Serkis. I like my Batman dark personally. I wouldn't care if there wasn't a single joke that wasn't delivered in spite by a villain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Edmilson 7,454 Posted September 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2020 18 minutes ago, AC1 said: Wait! Isn't it time for a reboot? I believe Cavill's Superman hasn't reached his full potential yet. In the hands of a great screenwriter and director, he could really be the Superman of the 21st century. blondheim, Matt C and HunterTech 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondheim 1,157 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 I don't want the tone of Christopher Reeves but I agree with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 So basically what you're asking is for Nolan to make a Cavill Superman film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondheim 1,157 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 I would certainly be fine with it, but I'd like someone new to take a crack at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 I've been watching Teen Wolf and the young Clark Kent from Man of Steel is in it, he'd make a fine Superman in the future and doesn't look too dissimilar to Cavill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 9 hours ago, AC1 said: Watching Fox News makes you less informed than watching no news at all. ...and watching the BBC makes you feel like a Nazi sympathiser. 1 hour ago, AC1 said: So basically what you're asking is for Nolan to make a Cavill Superman film? Angels, and ministers of grace, defend us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,360 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 20 hours ago, Arpy said: @Sweeping Strings All we've seen is the trailer and I've never known Batman to be anything other than dark and edgy. The Nolan trilogy had some lighter moments, but it was still dark and a little depressing. Not ALWAYS dark and edgy, but I take your point. Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 I was referring to comic book Batman, not the camp variants! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 30 minutes ago, Sweeping Strings said: George Clooney: "I think we just killed the franchise" bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,360 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 39 minutes ago, Arpy said: I was referring to comic book Batman, not the camp variants! Ah, I thought you were talking about onscreen Batman only. Hehehe. Clooney did say in an interview that B and R killed the franchise for 8 years and that he should take some responsibility for that. Fair play to him. blondheim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 The comic books weren't always dark. Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Gruesome Son of a Bitch said: The comic books weren't always dark. Quote Before he became " The Dark Knight", he was " The World's Greatest Detective"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 It'd be a refreshing change if they made a lighter Batman movie. I suppose Justice League was almost that, but not what I have in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondheim 1,157 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 He was quite dark at the beginning. Moved away from it during the 50s and into the 60s (everything in comics did, censorship) and then started coming back slowly after that. Once the TV show ended, writers tried desperately to find some middle ground that wouldn't turn off the audience but would align more with the character's original conception. I prefer all my superheroes to be complex, multi-faceted humans with flaws. I don't go in for the terminally upbeat stuff myself. I prefer DC for this reason. Marvel tends to try to appeal to everyone by giving us a little of everything every time: humor, a romance, mild terror, a theme park of set-pieces. I find this to be the lowest common denominator when it comes to creativity, sort of writing a film by committee. Visual pop songs. They have had 5-star films so it has occasionally been the right recipe. DC has been guilty as well, but often settles for one mood or conception, closely linked to its creator: Nolan, Burton, Snyder, Schumaker. Arpy and Jay 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 Even in recent comic book storylines, Grant Morrisson actually found a great and original way to fuse Batman's both campy and dark legacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 Didn't they show his dick in a recent comic? So weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondheim 1,157 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 1 minute ago, PuhgreÞiviÞm said: Didn't they show his dick in a recent comic? So weird. They did and I was here for it. I like the idea of the Black Label, I wish they would do more with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 Batman shouldn't be dark and disturbing and it also shouldn't be a serious crime drama. It's about a guy who dresses in a bat costume and fights a clown and a guy in a spacesuit with a freeze ray. Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 Didn't I read THE BATMAN was taking him back to the ' detective' persona? Personally, I loved the concept of a police force so corrupt that he has to go outside the system. Certainly fits our times. Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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