Jilal 569 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Mind you, that's what I understand out of his cryptic replies. I've contacted an ace Sherlock Holmes stand in to help dissect them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 The proof is in the pudding people. He was basically brought in to further "trailer-ize" the music. That's all. Don't let the classic JWFan paranoia get to you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 John Williams is, and always has been Felix Erskine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Love that Lydian supertonic over the tonic pedal. Yes! Best part.In English?Richard Feynman once said if someone can't explain something in plain language they aren't smart! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 It's been quite a long time since practically everyone liked a new Williams composition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,044 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Fantastic music in the new teaser. Works beautifully - perhaps better than the music in the first teaser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 It's been quite a long time since practically everyone liked a new Williams composition.But is it a Williams composition? And I didn't really love it to be honest. Not enough new material. Still good though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Love that Lydian supertonic over the tonic pedal. Yes! Best part.In English?Richard Feynman once said if someone can't explain something in plain language they aren't smart!Richard Feynman was a bongo playing crackpot! And I love him!It's the part that makes you feel the same sort of wonderful tension that accompanies the final seconds before orgasm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Also, what's that instrument that sounds over the Force theme at the beggining? Dulcimer? Balalaika? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Also, what's that instrument that sounds over the Force theme at the beggining? Dulcimer? Balalaika?Not sure. Ask Felix Erskine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Also, what's that instrument that sounds over the Force theme at the beggining? Dulcimer? Balalaika?Harp! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,353 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Just like the filml cue it is based off of (Tales of a Jedi Knight?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Just like the filml cue it is based off of (Tales of a Jedi Knight?) Yeah, very reminiscent at :10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,353 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I was thinking more 2:08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 You're right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Love that Lydian supertonic over the tonic pedal. Yes! Best part.In English?Richard Feynman once said if someone can't explain something in plain language they aren't smart!1:05 and 1:11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Felix Erskine? WTFby the way the last part sounds like the fanfare at the end of Yoda and the Force (oops it's been noted already) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Never mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Wrong thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Very much so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Gotta to love the enthusiasm here for this 2 minute trailer music. Nice to see people excited over this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 When was the last time people here got this excited with an actual Williams score? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Revenge of the Sith? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Star Wars is a completely different animal though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 We actually think Williams was involved with this? I don't know. That part underneath the re-purposed Luke ROTJ dialogue didn't sound like Williams to me at all. I feel like this trailer (teaser #2?) was thrown together for the Celebration. Sounded like altered OT music with a bunch of RCP synth bullshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 We actually think Williams was involved with this? I don't know. That part underneath the re-purposed Luke ROTJ dialogue didn't sound like Williams to me at all. I feel like this trailer (teaser #2?) was thrown together for the Celebration. Sounded like altered OT music with a bunch of RCP synth bullshit.Possibly, but the OT bits are new recordings... or aren't the original recordings, at least. Hopefully, we'll get some answers soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,287 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 We actually think Williams was involved with this? I don't know. That part underneath the re-purposed Luke ROTJ dialogue didn't sound like Williams to me at all. I feel like this trailer (teaser #2?) was thrown together for the Celebration. Sounded like altered OT music with a bunch of RCP synth bullshit.That bit reminded me a little of the first 30 seconds of the HP3 teaser. Which also doesn't sound much like Williams, but is anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 I don't know anymore. It sounds good but I have doubts tooWilliams probably recorded short variations of of existing music, a bit like the Olympic bumpers and NBC news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 We actually think Williams was involved with this? I don't know. That part underneath the re-purposed Luke ROTJ dialogue didn't sound like Williams to me at all. I feel like this trailer (teaser #2?) was thrown together for the Celebration. Sounded like altered OT music with a bunch of RCP synth bullshit.That bit reminded me a little of the first 30 seconds of the HP3 teaser. Which also doesn't sound much like Williams, but is anyway.You mean this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 that's not Williams..I thought we established it Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Magic Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,287 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Ahh yeah, that's right, got confused. Magic Box wrote it but he recorded it: http://www.magicboxmusic.com/virtualresume/details.php?id=HPPOA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 From enthusiasm to doubt and despair in half a page. The JWFan way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 It's just the trailer. Hopefully we can move past this when the score comes around. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 The significance and hope people place in a trailer is staggering sometimes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 The significance and hope people place in a trailer is staggering sometimesYup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 On the subject of trailers I think they generate hype and raise the expectations of the audience. I thought this trailer was good because it was vague on the details whilst giving fans something to speculate on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,338 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 The teaser was so random (without story). I think it mainly wanted to reassure the fans that, even without its creator, it will be Star Wars. Familiarity is the key here! A snippet of the desert with an imperial cruiser in the background, acrobatic space battles, a glimpse of a Boba Fett 3.0, big Wagnerian score, lovely characters in problematic situations, stormtroopers, Chewie and Solo as the sympathetic melancholy duo ... In short, your beloved space opera will return! Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 A teaser isn't about showing what the film will be about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,338 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 This is not a response to my post, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 This is not a response to my post, right?No. I was merely offering my opinion on the trailer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Cremers was talking to Stiff.This is all rather confusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Sorry, tapatalk failed me for the last time and some posts didn't appear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,338 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 It's getting abstract here ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 My hair is a bird! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 I'm not sure if I like the superposition of the themes at 1:20 (it's a finale, I don't know from which original cue)I wonder if John Williams recorded that for real or of it's a montage.If it's a montage, it's forgivable.If John Williams recorded that as it is, that means he's not able to write new Star Wars music anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 If John Williams recorded that as it is, that means he's not able to write new Star Wars music anymore.This. We should all despair. The Maestro has finally lost it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 "Finally"? He lost it years ago!Not for me! This was the moment of cruel revelation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 "Finally"? He lost it years ago!I can only compare John Williams with an other aging artist I know very well, Charles Aznavour.At 90, Aznavour, will issue a new album next may. What he's doing is very different from what he did in his golden age. The music is repetitive, we often recognize bits of old songs in his new compositions... It remains true Aznavour, but it may look less inventive, conventional, the text is sometimes more laborious, but but but... sometimes, a gem emerges and it's very moving!I think it will be the same for John Williams.That's not easy for a fan to see an artist he loves to grow old.One can be critical, but we must remain respectful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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