crumbs 14,317 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 Binary Sunrise is a little on the nose for a Williams track title. Not Mr. Big and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 Yeah. Although, then again, I remember thinking some of the TFA titles were really weird when I read them. "Main Title and the Attack on the Jakku Village" and "Kylo Ren Arrives at the Battle" immediately struck me as really awkward. Should have just been "Main Title and the Village Attack" and "Ren's Arrival," or something like that. Obviously this sounds awkward for a different reason but it's still worth keeping in mind. Kostov 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,287 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 "That Girl with the Staff" was the one that made me question the TFA track titles initially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 1 minute ago, mrbellamy said: "That Girl with the Staff" was the one that made me question the TFA track titles initially. That "Follow Me" (Always track title), "Finn's Confession" (there was no confession in the MSW plot summary), and Scherzo for X-Wings (and Orchestra). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 Isn't it too early for a tracklist leak, anyway? I doubt they have even determined the tracklist at this point. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,317 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 What? The OST would've been assembled, mastered and locked months ago. Just because it's not releasing until December doesn't mean Williams twiddles his thumbs until the release date. The engineering and mastering team would produce the soundtrack in tandem with the film's production, which means they need to finalise their responsibilities on time and move on (and they wouldn't have perpetual access to the mastering facilities whenever they please, because this all costs money). The master is probably sitting on a hard drive at Disney just waiting to go to the pressing plant in a few weeks. Anyway, it'd be the furthest thing from Williams' mind right now and the last distraction he needs while writing and recording an entirely different score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 Then why hasn't it leaked? Where is it? Where is it??? Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,317 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 The same place as the recording sessions for TFA and the other six scores: on an encrypted hard drive at Disney HQ, sitting behind thirteen firewalls. Different story once it hits the manufacturing plant though, although TFA's OST was kept incredibly secure considering the anticipation. Did it even leak a day in advance? Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 You have it, don't you? Why won't you share it with us? Why? Why? Kostov 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,317 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 Because it sucks! Every track is worse than Rathtars! and That Girl With The Staff put together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 14,317 Posted October 12, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2017 HOLY SHIT!!! Has Johnny's brand new Main Titles recording for The Last Jedi leaked on Twitter!? https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/917878706751782913/pu/vid/1280x720/h3M7Q1B9f_TUvdIX.mp4 You can definitely hear Rian Johnson's influence. Alex, Will, Bilbo and 4 others 3 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 Still better than the TFA Main Titles! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,287 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 6 hours ago, crumbs said: The same place as the recording sessions for TFA and the other six scores: on an encrypted hard drive at Disney HQ, sitting behind thirteen firewalls. Different story once it hits the manufacturing plant though, although TFA's OST was kept incredibly secure considering the anticipation. Did it even leak a day in advance? Amazon fucked up and sent the digital pre-orders three days early. We all had it by the next day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 Oh boy, reading back through that thread is such a rollercoaster of emotions. I'm not sure I'm ready for December! Can't stop the train, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,317 Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Does anyone else think that dominant repeating chord structure that appeared in both the new trailer (over shots of Rey training) and again in this new TV spot might actually be based on something Williams has done for TLJ? I mean, it's clearly a reworking of that chord structure from Darth Vader's theme... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 No, its based on The Force Awakens. That chord is all over Jedi Steps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 12 minutes ago, crumbs said: Does anyone else think that dominant repeating chord structure that appeared in both the new trailer (over shots of Rey training) and again in this new TV spot might actually be based on something Williams has done for TLJ? I mean, it's clearly a reworking of that chord structure from Darth Vader's theme... Based on the TFA trailer/teaser experience in regards to the music, I think it's possible. But would those who worked on the trailers/spots been allowed to listen to Williams TLJ music? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,317 Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Good question. Well their trailer people nailed Han Solo and the Princess returning for TFA (when Williams could have easily forgotten about it and just used Leia's theme). I'm guessing they might have a vague idea of returning themes and so forth but not much else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
looohhk 27 Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 Some score predictions in music form for you guys (tpt. and violin players please forgive me, chops are pretty sad) (this is kinda off-the-flow of this thread but wanted to share it anyway cause I thought guys might enjoy it). Super pumped for TLJ and to listen to what JW does with it! (mods feel free to delete this if this is in the wrong place) Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,287 Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 Now we know what else he temped the movie with besides Star Wars! Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 "John Williams Is Playing At My House" mrbellamy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,287 Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 I like to imagine John just sitting there and listening to this quietly with his hands folded and ginormous headphones on his head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 I hope we get some more dark second half of ROTS-esque action music. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrbellamy 6,287 Posted November 7, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2017 All I really want is just one great track that I immediately want to listen to over and over again. John, toothless and crumbs 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 797 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Anyone know on what date the tracklisting of TFA was revealed in 2015..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,287 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 November 26 Looking back through the thread, looks like we already had the official cover art by now: Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 797 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Thanks..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 November 26th 2015 was Thanksgiving here in America. Maybe we'll get the tracklisting for Thanksgiving this year! (the 23rd) Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 I would love to hear the end credits end with something like this again. And not another Star Wars/ROTJ/ROTS ending. TFA end credits ending was appropriately subdued but I would like to hear something less restrained for TLJ. However, depending on where they put "In Memory of Carrie Fisher" in the credits, Williams may have wrote something soft and touching to wrap up the credits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 A man named "Todd Strange" has recently been added to the film's music department as "vocal choir", though the female vocalist has apparently been removed from the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 27, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted November 27, 2017 toothless, fatehbaz, Manakin Skywalker and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,317 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 So that's at least 3 choir performers we know of, both male and female, if IMDB is to be believed. Seems to me that choir will play a much larger role in this score than it did in TFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,897 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Could easily be fake. Remember back in 2015 when I put my own name in as an "additional composer"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,317 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 It's an oddly specific credit to give yourself for a joke, especially from industry people who've worked on other large scale movies. You don't just invent working on a Star Wars score with John Williams unless you want to shoot your reputation. It's like lying about your job history on a CV. The more simple explanation is that the score involves choir, which isn't a stretch. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 If there is a choir I hope it's more ooing and aawing than sanskirt chanting Duel of the Fates stuff. crumbs and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,661 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 19 minutes ago, Manakin Skywalker said: Could easily be fake. Remember back in 2015 when I put my own name in as an "additional composer"? I am guessing I would have preferred your version of Maz castle music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Star Wars The Last Jedi Music composed and conducted by Todd Strange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Dont even joke about that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,897 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 4 hours ago, Tom said: I am guessing I would have preferred your version of Maz castle music. You sure about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 5 hours ago, Not Mr. Big said: If there is a choir I hope it's more ooing and aawing than sanskirt chanting Duel of the Fates stuff. Snoke's theme is chanting Sanskrit, too. I don't think we'll get a greater involvement of choir past that type of basso profundo singing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostov 58 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Much darker and threatening music, with more low cello notes like the segment starting at 4:12. More Rey, Kylo, and Snoke developed themes. I really want more goosebumps. Starting at 1:01... I lllllike this part a lot. Williams is just phenomenal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 51 minutes ago, Chen G. said: Snoke's theme is chanting Sanskrit, too. I don't think we'll get a greater involvement of choir past that type of basso profundo singing. Hopefully Williams will develop this material into a more thematic identity and transform it into something operatic. crumbs and Kostov 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,317 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 12 minutes ago, Kostov said: Starting at 1:01... I lllllike this part a lot. Williams is just phenomenal. Clearly JJ agreed, by removing it from the final cut. toothless and Kostov 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 11 minutes ago, Incanus said: Hopefully Williams will develop this material into a more thematic identity and transform it into something operatic. Hopefully? Yes. Likely? Sadly, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,317 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Well he doesn't like repeating himself, so where does he have to go with the Snoke material except more operatic? I'm predicting some choral extroversion for the reveal of that glorious red throne room, minimum. But it'll just be another instrument in the score, not the primary voice like it was in parts of the 1st and 3rd prequel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Something about Williams music in the last few years, especially in The Force Awakens, strikes me as more scaled back. He isn't looking to blow the roof off of the cinema as he did previously. And remember, no London Voices this time. The Hollywood Chorale really isn't up to par with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,317 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 What's the most ostentatious use of choir Williams has done with an LA based score? Nothing really springs to mind, which indicates he probably tailors his music to the orchestra/musicians performing it, not the other way around. London Voices was perfectly suited to the operatic style of the prequels & Potter scores and he left nothing on the table there! Of recent US-based scores I can only think of choral elements in TFA, War of the Worlds & Lincoln and they're all very low-key. I don't recall any choral elements in KOTCS, War Horse, Tintin, Book Thief, Terminal, CMIYC... Minority Report, AI and Munich had very noticeable soloist vocals though, a style I could envisage for Rey's new material? Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostov 58 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 1 hour ago, crumbs said: Clearly JJ agreed, by removing it from the final cut. Let's hope Rian Johnson didn't cut the best parts from the upcoming score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 17 minutes ago, crumbs said: Of recent US-based scores I can only think of choral elements in TFA, War of the Worlds & Lincoln and they're all very low-key. Indeed. It's all low men voices, which Williams certainly has a taste for. Maybe for Snoke going forward he'll dig deeper into the bass and go to oktavist registers like he did in War of the Worlds, but somehow I doubt it. Its also worth noting that Williams is self professed for not being a "vocal" composer. Scores like Revenge of the Sith are the exception for him, not the rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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