publicist 4,643 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 I predict this score will find favour with many after the year is over. It's not brilliant by any long shot but there's more than meets the ear and while the themes are slender, they are there and woven in with great care. Desplat writes around upfront pop songs (like the Bowie) so that may have to do with it seeming a bit disorganized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quppa 117 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Having listened to the album a few times (in the digital release track order, for what it's worth), I'm rather enjoying it, yet I imagine I would have been a bit disappointed if his planned Rogue One effort had turned out something like this. I haven't seen the film yet, so it's probably not a fair comparison, but nothing on the album grabs me as much as the Godzilla opening titles did when I first heard/watched them. The strings from 0:26 to 0:46 in Spaceship Chase sound like almost a direct quotation of Stravinsky's The Rite of Spring. James 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,394 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 War of the Worlds! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 A little disappointed that this score is, presumably, so different from what Desplat wrote for Rogue One, since I wanted to get a sense of what his rejected score had sounded like. (But if the RO score actually did sound like this, I could see why it was rejected! ) Oh well. Maybe sheet music will leak someday and we can get mockups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothless 964 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 I'me seing the movie tomorrow. Can't wait to see how the music is handled throughout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 For some reason I can't get past the first four cues of this score. I like the opening, but then am immediately bored. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 ADHD generation! Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 I listened to my physical CD in the car this morning. Really liked the first 10 tracks. I have a feeling the ride home tonight won't be as exciting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 36 minutes ago, BloodBoal said: ADHD generation! Bad film score generation! Life's too short for mediocrity! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 It's really worth a listen. Preferably on good equipment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 So is it Desplat's opus magnum then, pub? Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 No. But certainly the first good (as in well-written) sci-fi/fantasy score this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 I can't recall almost anything released this year. Which means this will make my top 5 highlights of 2017. By default. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Captain Underpants, Spider-man Homecoming, War For The Planet of the Apes, and maybe Colossal (?) are good sci-fi/fantasy scores released this year Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 He's just playful blasé about it all. Just now, Jay said: Captain Underpants, Spider-man Homecoming, War For The Planet of the Apes, and maybe Colossal (?) are good sci-fi/fantasy scores released this year Mhh...no. 'War' has some noteworthy parts, the rest was just white noise to me (and i tried this stuff on Spotify). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothless 964 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 I'm just coming back from seing valerian in Dolby Atmos. And it was fun. Not the movie of the year but somehow I will remember more about Valerian in 6 month than I remember about Dunkirk that I saw 3 days ago… (And I liked Dunkirk, as a cinematic experience) About the movie : Spoiler - Visually it's like a mix of Avatar, Star wars + 5th element, etc. It is richer and more detailed than any current blockbuster I think. - It's original and at the same time there are clear inspirations that made me laugh. - Cool 3D with depth and actual light! (As with avatar, 3/4 of the shots are in CGI so it helps for the depth). - Surprise, the mix in atmos was cool with some good ideas! - Scenario too simple and predictable unfortunately but somehow it works. - The very beginning of the film is weird, did not like it. - I found the end a bit rushed - The rythme of the film would have benefited from 10 minutes less - Actors are OK. I think sometimes the scenario does not help the actors. Some characters are cliché. About the score : Spoiler - Desplat's work is really nice and it works pretty well with the picture. - Valerian theme and Pearls theme have a prominent place throughout the film. The mix and the fact that they are heavilly used really helps to remember them. I did not listen that much the OST before going to the cinema so it's cool. - There are 3 to 4 scenes were the score really shines and is mixed way louder than the sound fx. - The rest is OK. Action writing is cool, verry Desplat. - The movie starts with a song… it ruined the begining of the movie to me. Plus the transition to Valerian logo with Desplat's music was odd… - The end credit starts…WITH A SONG… was disapointed by that… - I did not notice much of the other songs, they must be well integrated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 You must tell us the chronological order of the score tracks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 No need to use spoiler tags if there are no actual spoilers in your comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothless 964 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 12 hours ago, BloodBoal said: No need to use spoiler tags if there are no actual spoilers in your comments. Doing so prevent anyone from being upset if they think these qualify as spoilers. And it does not bother me 12 hours ago, Jay said: You must tell us the chronological order of the score tracks! I have yet to do a proper listen of the soundtrack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 I finished my car listen. This is a score I like... when I'm listening to it. What I mean is, in between listens, I barely remember a thing about the dam score. But while I'm listening, I really enjoy the ride! I think seeing the film will help. publicist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 I was wrong. This is a good score. Sound quality on CD seems to be better as well. Karol Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 The only thing I didn't like about the CD is how it starts with Pearls on Mul. Terrible opening track! Big Market is the perfect opening track. I'm so glad they dedicated one disc to score and one to songs. I haven't even taken the second disc out of the holder yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 I actually prefer the CD opening. Big Market was a bit abrupt for me. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 10 minutes ago, crocodile said: I was wrong. This is a good score. Sound quality on CD seems to be better as well. Heheh, Bloodboal now stands alone! Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 I might have been in a bad mood when listening to it last week. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 All he really cares about is giving Gia/R1 the finger so he'll probably say it's a masterpiece Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 4 minutes ago, BloodBoal said: I don't need no stinkin' croc standing by me! Anyway, I don't mind being the only one correct. I'm used to it. But hey, did Marty ever post his thoughts on the score? He was another one anxiously awaiting for that score, and I don't remember him saying anything about it. Did he not receive his CD? Still not up on Apple Music. It might be up tomorrow if not I'm going into town on Saturday so I'll check Tower when I'm in. film isn't getting a release until the 4th of August over here so it might not be out until tomorrow week. 4 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: All he really cares about is giving Gia/R1 the finger so he'll probably say it's a masterpiece Nah, if it's crap I'll say it crap... but still better than Gia!! i honestly don't mind Gia or the RO score that much, I just love how much it pisses certain people off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothless 964 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 2 hours ago, Jay said: The only thing I didn't like about the CD is how it starts with Pearls on Mul. Well, this is the first Desplat's track chronologically in the movie if I recall. So it makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 On 7/25/2017 at 6:26 PM, Jay said: You must tell us the chronological order of the score tracks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miz 139 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 17 hours ago, Jay said: I finished my car listen. This is a score I like... when I'm listening to it. What I mean is, in between listens, I barely remember a thing about the dam score. But while I'm listening, I really enjoy the ride! I think seeing the film will help. I'm the same. Obviously I've deleted non-score tracks and listen to the presentation remaining, though it doesn't have much development or order, the 'sound' throughout is engaging, the instrumentation interesting and the action/travel music is great. Makes me want to see the film (but I probably won't pay for it, I just saw Planet of the Apes and Dunkirk on the same day!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Would definitely like to know the chronological order of the tracks, to see if that could improve the listening experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 The Golden Compass is still a better score. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Goes without saying! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,394 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Seeing the film in 2 hours, will let you know about the chronological order Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crocodile 8,018 Posted July 28, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2017 He's doing the new Guillermo del Toro film The Shape of Water. A romantic horror? Can't wait for this one. Karol Chewy, Bilbo, Muad'Dib and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 publicist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Pearls of Mul is the first cue heard in the film then? BB what does the theme from Pearls Power signify? It is quite prominent on the album. Karol Mr. Who 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jay 37,372 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 5 hours ago, BloodBoal said: the only unreleased bit I did notice was a short Valerian theme statement over the title card that plays right before Pearls On Mül. 5 hours ago, crocodile said: Pearls of Mul is the first cue heard in the film then? .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Oh you know what I mean. The first album track that appears in the film. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 This still sucks to my ears. What a plasticky recording too. Sounds like all the orchestra is playing all at the same time but then muffled into a latex pillow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 I think the sound quality is fine. But yeah, the synths cheapen it considerably. And also the big blockbuster percussion. I know he had a massive drums on Godzilla but in that score it was entirely appropriate. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Chewy 2,394 Posted July 29, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted July 29, 2017 Saw the film today, here are the cues heard in the movie in chronological order: 01 - Intro (0:27) [unreleased] 02 - Pearls On Mul (7:14) 03 - Dream (0:22) [unreleased] 04 - Landing (1:01) [unreleased] 05 - Reading The Memo pt. 1 (0:54) 06 - Big Market (2:06) 07 - Reading The Memo pt. 2 (0:22) 08 - Flight Above The Big Market (2:45) 09 - Trading The Pearl (1:12) [unreleased] 10 - Showtime (2:24) 11 - Heavy Balls (0:39) [unreleased] 12 - Adios (0:11) [unreleased] 13 - Leaving Big Market (0:33) [unreleased] 14 - Valerian In Trouble (1:22) 15 - Bus Attack (3:30) [7 sec insert unreleased] 16 - Uranium Washing (0:58) [unreleased] 17 - Access Denied (0:22) [unreleased] 18 - On The Beach (0:19) [unreleased] 19 - Arriving On Alpha (2:00) 20 - Radioactive Zone (1:05) [unreleased] 21 - Council (0:30) [unreleased] 22 - Prisoner (1:48) [unreleased] 23 - Guarding (0:42) [unreleased] 24 - Pearls Attack (4:05) 25 - Valerian's Armor (2:09) 26 - Spaceship Chase (3:34) 27 - Handcuffs (0:57) [unreleased] 28 - Searching Valerian (1:04) [unreleased] 29 - Submarine (2:40) 30 - Medusa (1:50) 31 - Shoot (1:36) 32 - Help us (0:57) [unreleased] 33 - Fishing For Butterflies (1:58) 34 - Paradise Alley (0:28) [unreleased] 35 - Bubble's Charm (0:40) [unreleased] 36 - Bubble (0:27) 37 - In Boulanbator Area (0:21) [unreleased] 38 - Le Souper Du Roi (2:00) 39 - Boulanbator Combat (3:15) [13 sec insert unreleased] 40 - Access Denied Again (1:24) [unreleased] 41 - Bubble's Death (1:57) 42 - Pearl's World (6:25) 43 - The City Of 1000 Planets (3:50) 44 - Mul Destruction (3:55) [unreleased] 45 - I Am A Soldier (2:04) 46 - Preparing The Assault (0:55) [unreleased] 47 - Pearls Power (1:50) 48 - Final Combat (8:29) [1:30 alternate ending unreleased] 49 - Only You On My Playlist (1:15) [unreleased] So the CD tracks are in the correct order and the cool thing is that there is 0 microedit in the CD cues (not so used to seeing this, as a JW fan...). The unreleased cues are mostly underscore and don't introduce any new theme or any particular interesting new sound. crumbs, Will, Jay and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,914 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Was it any good? My expectations are low since everyone seems to dislike it but it looks fun if you just want a visual feast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jay 37,372 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Thanks for that list, Chewy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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