Alexandre Desplat's Valerian and The City of a Thousand Planets

[antovolk 100]

 

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 11,269]

Magnifique!

[Jay 43,878]

Wow, that should be interesting!

[Brónach 1,320]

Pity about the film, but I look forward to the score.

[Maurizio 6,312]

Heh, looks like Alexandre still wants to write space opera music  Valerian is indeed one of Lucas' influences for Star Wars.

[Jay 43,878]

The question, of course, is if he'll re-purpose material he wrote for Rogue One into this film.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 11,269]

That might be legally risky. Since Lucasfilm owns that.

[Little Ghost 8,408]

Lucasfilm owns musical notes?

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 11,269]

No, but they do legally own anything Desplat wrote for them while he was hired for Rogue One.

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27 minutes ago, Stefancos said:

No, but they do legally own anything Desplat wrote for them while he was hired for Rogue One.

 

Seems like a weird grey area to me, without knowing the extent of what Desplat has written. Themes? Cues? Basic sketches? What do Lucasfilm do, acquire his hard drives and copyright the sheet music?

 

John would never have this problem, he writes everything down with pencil and paper! He could throw it all in a furnace and screw the studios for rejecting him!

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 11,269]

It's hardly a grey area. Lucasfilm or Disney own all the music, written and recorded that Desplat wrote for Rogue One.

 

Now Desplat could easily take a theme or meledy or two. slightly tweak them and use them in the Luc Besson, or indeed any other film.

But since his Rogue One score won't be released we will not know about it. Unless the composer actually says in an interviews that he used Rogue One material in Valerian. But that isnt a very smart thing to do.

[crocodile 9,338]

That is just perfect. Might be even better.

 

Karol

[Jay 43,878]

Just now, Stefancos said:

It's hardly a grey area. Lucasfilm or Disney own all the music, written and recorded that Desplat wrote for Rogue One.

 

Nothing was recorded.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 11,269]

I was more referring to demo's, which obviously would have been recorded.

[Luke Skywalker 2,261]

2 minutes ago, crocodile said:

That is just perfect. Might be even better.

 

Karol

And isnt it conveniently soon?

 

Maybe this deal was already on talks while disney stalled the recording sessions due to the film being late on production...

 

 

And maybe giacchino also was already in talks since it seemed Desplat was not working on it yet

[crocodile 9,338]

In any case, I'm looking forward to it.

 

Karol

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 11,269]

4 minutes ago, Luke Skywalker said:

And isnt it conveniently soon?

 

Maybe this deal was already on talks while disney stalled the recording sessions due to the film being late on production...

 

 

And maybe giacchino also was already in talks since it seemed Desplat was not working on it yet

 

Nonsense. These are two Frenchmen. After hearing Desplat was off Rogue One Luc invited him to his Chateau, they had an excellent dinner with several bottles of truly exquisite wine. They discussed the project and shook hands on it.

[Jay 43,878]

6 minutes ago, Luke Skywalker said:

And isnt it conveniently soon?

 

Maybe this deal was already on talks while disney stalled the recording sessions due to the film being late on production...

 

 

And maybe giacchino also was already in talks since it seemed Desplat was not working on it yet

 

The film opens in July and won't need to be recorded until May or June.  Desplat could have done both, of course he certainly could be doing other things in between and that caused the problem.  Besson's tweet doesn't mean Desplat is immediately and exclusively working on this score starting now.

[Luke Skywalker 2,261]

It was a joke...

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 11,269]

Humour, it is a difficult concept...

[antovolk 100]

 Nobody talking about how this is the second Besson film not scored by Serra? Pretty shocked tbh that he isn't doing it....would've loved to hear what he'd come up with but I think at the same time maybe Besson didn't want Fifth Element 2.0 from Serra.

[Jay 43,878]

The Lucy score was awful so I'm glad its Desplat

 

Still love Fifth Element, though!

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 11,269]

Looks like this will be the most expensive French film ever made. Makes sense they would hire France's most successful film composer.

[Jay 43,878]

Agreed.  The choice of composer makes total sense.

[Thor 9,323]

5 hours ago, antovolk said:

 Nobody talking about how this is the second Besson film not scored by Serra? Pretty shocked tbh that he isn't doing it....would've loved to hear what he'd come up with but I think at the same time maybe Besson didn't want Fifth Element 2.0 from Serra.

 

This sucks. Eric Serra would have been PERFECT for a job like this, and it's a mystery to me why Besson has opted out of his regular partner for this one. It seems my Desplat/Giacchino curse continues.

 

I actually have high expectations for this film, given Besson's brilliant return to form with LUCY, but a little less now that Serra has been sent out the airlock, in favour of Desplat.

[pete 1,248]

Well I'm looking forward to Michael Giacchino's score

[Jay 43,878]

[Muad'Dib 1,997]

Black star? 

 

 

[Luke Skywalker 2,261]

So GIacchino replaces Desplat, Desplat replaces Serra...

 

Is there no end to this madness?

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 11,269]

Was Serra ever signed on for this or are you just assuming?

[Luke Skywalker 2,261]

Assuming. And making a joke.

 

If serra is Besson composer of choice... Is like when we assume Bridge of Spies was being composed by williams.

 

 

[BloodBoal 7,545]

[Luke Skywalker 2,261]

Christ

[Jay 43,878]

2 hours ago, Luke Skywalker said:

Assuming. And making a joke.

 

If serra is Besson composer of choice... Is like when we assume Bridge of Spies was being composed by williams.

 

 

 

Bridge of Spies WAS being composed by Williams.  It was on his agency PDF and everything.  He only had to drop out because of the pacemaker surgery.

[Thor 9,323]

Yeah, the disappointment in this case was not that Serra was rejected or first involved in the project; Besson seems to have gone to Desplat directly.

[crocodile 9,338]

9 hours ago, Muad'Dib said:

Black star? 

 

 

Maybe Disney will make this after the success of their Black Panther. 

 

Karol

[Quintus 5,912]

Did Universal licence Yoda's theme from Lucas then? 

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 11,269]

Probably not

[Will 2,380]

On 9/21/2016 at 6:31 AM, Jay said:

 

Bridge of Spies WAS being composed by Williams.  It was on his agency PDF and everything.  He only had to drop out because of the pacemaker surgery.

 

Could JW have actually written something for BoS? 

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 11,269]

Probably not. 

He was ocupied with TFA in that period.

[Jay 43,878]

28 minutes ago, Will said:

 

Could JW have actually written something for BoS? 

 

 

Nope

[Will 2,380]

Yeah, this Spielberg interview makes it sound like Williams hadn't started work yet. 

 

http://www.jwfan.com/?p=8050

 

He probably hadn't even seen the film. 

 

Maybe that's good, because it means less unreleased music to be worried about! Although if he had written something then I guess perhaps the sketches could leak and people could do mock-ups, which would have been cool (but also frustrating, obviously, since we'd likely never hear it recorded by a real orchestra). 

[Jay 43,878]

He never wrote a thing. 

 

[toothless 1,023]

https://www.valerian.bnpparibas/

With this lottery (and a game) you can win a chance to attend the recording sessions and some post production sessions.

It says the recording session will be in late february 

 

 

[Will 2,380]

Cool!

[leeallen01 2,223]

Not sure if anyone has posted this anywhere:

 

 

 

Looks like Jupiter Ascending 2...

And that underwater chase scene with giant creatures is straight out of Phantom Menace. But of course this is from the 1960's so it probably would have influenced Star Wars.

 

But despite the quality of this film, it looks like it will offer Desplat sufficient chance to go 'space opera' on it, as Giacchino did with Jupiter Ascending.

 

 

P.S. The two leads look strikingly similar, like siblings really, so it doesn't really work having them romantically involved...

 

P.P.S. I adore Fifth Element, so this film, has already sold one ticket.

[Jay 43,878]

It was posted here when it came out, and we discussed it a bit

 

http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/16439-the-official-future-films-thread/&do=findComment&comment=1289788

 

I too love The Fifth Element, but doubt this film will be anywhere near that good.

[toothless 1,023]

http://www.cinezik.org/infos/affinfo.php?titre0=20170221170734&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

 

95 musicians and a 40 people choir

[Jay 43,878]

uhhh OK.  Well, Google Translate says:

 

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The National Orchestra of France and the choir of Radio France are recording the music of Luc Besson's film, VALERIAN, composed by Alexandre Desplat. This is a first since 1984, when the house of the radio recorded the "Carmen" of Francesco Rosi.

Alexandre Desplat is known for recording regularly with the London Symphonic Orchestra (LSO) in London. Most of the major French composers (Eric Neveux, Bruno Coulais, Philippe Rombi) have often expressed their preference for English orchestras.

The choice to remain in France for this recording would be a choice of Luc Besson, fervent patriot who did everything possible to make the filming of his film is located in France - notably in its City of Cinema (by negotiating taxes with the " French State).

Luc Besson has also centralized in his Cité du cinéma all stages of creation (from production to post-production through filming). Only the musical part is missing the studios of St Denis, hence an agreement signed between Radio France and EuropaCorp, the company of Luc Besson, after several months of negotiation, allowing today 95 musicians of the Orchester National de France And 40 singers of the choir of Radio France to participate in the recording at Studio 104 of the Maison de la Radio.

The most expensive superproduction in the history of French cinema, with a budget of more than 170 million euros, "Valérian and the City of the thousand planets" Luc Besson is on the bill in July.

 

[crocodile 9,338]

Awesome. Can't wait for this.

 

Karol