Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 It's angelic! Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,829 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 I'm curious to see if something of those "probably never recorded" cues, was recorded! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QpVGzKLbN19_Tw2lwEU7LVglmqL3ogBrUWhTVUwHjww/pub?hl=en_US&hl=en_US&hl=en_US&gid=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Let's discuss Always more! I think it's a great listen. Sure I skip a few tracks, but it's a helluva lot better than the BFG. filmmusic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 What a backhanded compliment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 'Always' has two keepers, 'Among the Clouds' and 'Dorinda Solo Flight'. The rest is eminently forgettable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 I find the mood of the score most agreeable. It has romance and sadness. I also love the sort of ethereal stuff in Pete in Heaven and the badass synthy buildup in The Rescue Operation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,829 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 11 minutes ago, publicist said: 'Always' has two keepers, 'Among the Clouds' and 'Dorinda Solo Flight'. The rest is eminently forgettable. I guess you're not into atmospheric "unthematic" (if we can call it) music? I LOVE "Pete in Heaven" track. It's so relaxing and magical... I completeley agree with @rough cut about Always being a much better score than BFG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 The Spielberg/Williams album was my introduction to Always. I didn't know what it was at the time, but the track was a standout for me. I woke up one morning and the movie was on TV. The rest is history. filmmusic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 3 minutes ago, filmmusic said: I guess you're not into atmospheric "unthematic" (if we can call it) music? I am but Williams is not exactly a big champ in that department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Both 'Among The Clouds' and 'Dorinda...' are great cues! But what about 'Follow Me' And 'Saying Goodbye' which are two other favourites of mine... Both wonderful, wonderful tracks. But, oooh, the best track on the album us probably 'Return'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Limp americana. If Spielberg went with straight remake of a WW2 flier drama the score probably would have been much more fondly remembered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Americana? Did you listen to the tracks I suggested? They would be very out of place on Lincoln. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 I think you have a bit of a limited understanding of the term. Americana in its broadest sense of course includes the kind of harmonizations and open chords employed in 'Always' (or 'Field of Dreams', same year). What else would it be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 No, I know what you meant. Copland, for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Well, then you surely understand that the pop modernizations of this idiom include thousands of examples over the decades, including at the fringes of course also typical 80's fare like Horner's 'Field of Dreams' or, indeed, 'Always' (which isn't pop but a mix of typical americana gestures and orchestrations plus minimalist atmospherics) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 What's with the patronizing tone? Yes yes it's all good and true. I wasn't saying that Lincoln was the only americana album out there. I think you have a bit of a limited understanding of the subtle aspects of communication. Surely you understand that some comments are made to draw unexpected connections, make a point and/or be a little bit tounge-in-cheek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 No, i don't understand that. Because of my limited understanding for your superb command of subtle communication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 (blows trumpet) Man, this is gonna be good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 4 hours ago, rough cut said: What's with the patronizing tone? It's pub. You either learn to ignore it or you ignore him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,829 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 On 9/2/2017 at 0:05 PM, Stefancos said: I was given a fixed version of the Jurassic Park cover when i was at LLL today. Have they issued replacements and can we ask to get them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 21 hours ago, rough cut said: But, oooh, the best track on the album us probably 'Return'. The first minute of "The Return" is one of the most emotional and at the same time subtlest moments in JW's career. It's a perfect mix of romantic, sadness and pure luck*. *set out of context from the movie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 It's a very emotional scene as well. I believe that underscores the aftermath of the explosion that kills Pete. Spielberg became notorious in that era for overusing really annoying reaction shots of people with the camera zooming in (see (or don't): the War Horse trailer), a technique Roland Emmerich ripped off and Spielberg overuses to this day. The reaction of John Goodman, however, is brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 8 minutes ago, Evil-Lyn said: It's a very emotional scene as well. I believe that underscores the aftermath of the explosion that kills Pete. Spielberg became notorious in that era for overusing really annoying reaction shots of people with the camera zooming in (see (or don't): the War Horse trailer), a technique Roland Emmerich ripped off and Spielberg overuses to this day. The reaction of John Goodman, however, is brilliant. Ricard and Gruesome Son of a Bitch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 That's a great shot in Always! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Sorry to distract from such a lovely discussion about Always, but... Wouldn't it be great if there was a third disc, that contained the performance from The Shrine for the 20th anniversary! I know the recording probably isn't that good, and there's probably alot of background noise and what not... But still. It would be cool to have! Hell, I'd even take it as bonus download-only content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 John Goodman is better than everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corellian2019 386 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 1 hour ago, rough cut said: Sorry to distract from such a lovely discussion about Always, but... Wouldn't it be great if there was a third disc, that contained the performance from The Shrine for the 20th anniversary! I know the recording probably isn't that good, and there's probably alot of background noise and what not... But still. It would be cool to have! Hell, I'd even take it as bonus download-only content. That's available on the 2002 DVD as an alternate audio track Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 The first modern live to picture concert? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Yes, It's on the BluRay as well. But I'd like it as a live cd or an audiofile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 It can't be on the Blu-ray because the 20th Anniversary version has never been released on Blu-ray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 2 hours ago, Evil-Lyn said: The first modern live to picture concert? John invented them! He has the franchise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 And my 2002 DVD has PAL speed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 I have both the DVD and the blu. I thought that the Shrine audio track was on both of them. I stand corrected. But regardless, is noone feeling me that this would be a sweet extra? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,829 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Since this is gonna be released in a few days, how come we don't have a track list yet? I think in other cases you get the track list days or weeks before the cd gets released. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 To avoid spoilers. A. A. Ron and bollemanneke 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 4 hours ago, rough cut said: I have both the DVD and the blu. I thought that the Shrine audio track was on both of them. I stand corrected. But regardless, is noone feeling me that this would be a sweet extra? A concert complete with dialogue and sound effects from the film? Not interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 6 hours ago, filmmusic said: Since this is gonna be released in a few days, how come we don't have a track list yet? I think in other cases you get the track list days or weeks before the cd gets released. When has a track list ever been revealed weeks in advance? LLL has a pretty regular release schedule. Expect it tomorrow in an email. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1577030879015272&id=161716350546739 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Hmm, point taken. If it was recorded as a multitrack, then maybe perhaps dialogue and sound fx could be separated from the music... This is turning in to a fantasy, I realize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Recorded as a multi track? Of course it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 What's the name of the European seller that people use instead of buying direct from lalaland? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Music Box? Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 That's the one! Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, Bilbo Skywalker said: What's the name of the European seller that people use instead of buying direct from lalaland? I think it was this site: https://www.musicbox-records.com/en/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 I think I'm going to try them out with some Horner stuff and see how it goes. Shipping from America makes these releases very expensive. Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Yeah, from LLL shipping can be fatal. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,829 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 17 minutes ago, Bilbo Skywalker said: I think I'm going to try them out with some Horner stuff and see how it goes. Shipping from America makes these releases very expensive. Please let us know, because I will be ordering from them from now on, since purchases from USA go through customs. I'm waiting for a package from SAE for more than 2 months now, I think it got lost. Bilbo and Holko 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmh90790 16 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Considering the Jurassic Park collection is still not sold out, I'd bet you're safe. But pay attention to stock updates from the label. They usually warn when it's getting low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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