BrotherSound 677 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 So, @Jay and other Horner fans, here’s a pleasant surprise: the complete full score of Aliens, now available to pre-order: http://www.chrissiddallmusic.com/aliens.html Looks great! Maglorfin and Demondm810 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Jay 17679 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 Cool! Link to post Share on other sites
Demondm810 283 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 oh sweet!! I ordered it! Thank you for the heads up! I regret not getting Willow from Omni. BrotherSound 1 Link to post Share on other sites
filmmusic 784 Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 It says printed in the UK. So maybe it ships from there? I hope so, so as to avoid customs. edit: i was told in facebook by the publisher that it does. BrotherSound 1 Link to post Share on other sites
NL197 193 Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Congratulations to Chris for a job very well done, and it was indeed very challenging. BrotherSound 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Brundlefly 1767 Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Can I get that one without the "S"? Link to post Share on other sites
Jay 17679 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Why did they put "5M1 Combat Drop" instead of "5M1 Landing Preparations" ??? Landing Preparations is Horner's name for that cue. Combat Drop is just some album name Varese came up with for the DE Same issue with 4M1! "LV-426" is another new name Varese invented for the DE album. Horner's name for that cue is "Alright, I'm In" Link to post Share on other sites
Spider-Fal 2289 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 42 minutes ago, Jay said: Why did they put "5M1 Combat Drop" instead of "5M1 Landing Preparations" ??? Landing Preparations is Horner's name for that cue. Combat Drop is just some album name Varese came up with for the DE Same issue with 4M1! "LV-426" is another new name Varese invented for the DE album. Horner's name for that cue is "Alright, I'm In" Maybe the cues don't have names on the sheets, just numbers, so they took titles from the DE? Link to post Share on other sites
lemoncurd 274 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 generally a really nice idea, but I'm not convinced. How „official“ is it? I'd really like to understand the legal aspects behind such publications. Also I've had a look on the launch sequence from Apollo 13 on the blog. It's great to be able to do transcriptions by ear, but there are clearly some wrong harmonies/chords. http://www.chrissiddallmusic.com/blog Link to post Share on other sites
Maglorfin 195 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Holy mother of God, I SO need to get this! Thanks a lot, @BrotherSound! BrotherSound 1 Link to post Share on other sites
chrissiddall 4 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Hey great to see a thread here about this, thanks @BrotherSound! In answer to a few queries here: Alien and Alien 3 are on my to do list "one day". I need something lighter between now and then! Yes it is fully licensed, and I am aware of the headaches. I am waiting on 6 more licenses right now which have been in progress for over a year. I've not given up on them yet since I had one approved after exactly a year and a day. They just take that long to hammer out! Apollo 13 launch was great to work on but may well contain a few bum notes. I was under the 50th anniversary deadline and didn't do a full cross check against the recording. Feel free to point out anything you spot and I'll fix it up! I'm based in the UK, so Europeans may rejoice at slightly reduced shipping charges vs. some of the other full scores that are available. Know though that all we do is pass on the actual costs to ship, and we try really hard to find the best options. Any other questions feel free to ask! Oh I forgot. The cue names in the book are to sync with the recording so it's easier to know what you're following along with. As mentioned, there are none on the original score sheets, only cue numbers. Demondm810 and BrotherSound 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Jay 17679 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Horner's cue names are used on the Blu Ray with Matessino's isolated score track https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1x3GBJHftmOQpaC8r5Zx6h2sHW9KxbpDThTrMgWYSXVs Link to post Share on other sites
chrissiddall 4 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Jay said: Horner's cue names are used on the Blu Ray with Matessino's isolated score track https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1x3GBJHftmOQpaC8r5Zx6h2sHW9KxbpDThTrMgWYSXVs That's a cool spreadsheet, thanks for sharing. I've not seen it before! Are they definitely all intended cue names by James and not sometimes action/hit points (like "alright I'm in")? It's actually really quite common for his cues to be nameless, having seen a number of his scores. Link to post Share on other sites
Spider-Fal 2289 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 1 hour ago, chrissiddall said: That's a cool spreadsheet, thanks for sharing. I've not seen it before! Are they definitely all intended cue names by James and not sometimes action/hit points (like "alright I'm in")? It's actually really quite common for his cues to be nameless, having seen a number of his scores. They might have been from a seperate "cue sheet"/log... or came up with later. Link to post Share on other sites
chrissiddall 4 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 47 minutes ago, Spider-Fal said: They might have been from a seperate "cue sheet"/log... or came up with later. I did actually make a request to see any cue sheets or similar that may show the names of the orchestra members who played on the recording as I wanted to credit them, but nothing could be found. I also asked the LSO archivist but as we have the joy of 2020 messing with "the arts", I haven't had any joy there either yet. Link to post Share on other sites
Demondm810 283 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Thanks for this, @chrissiddall! Can't wait to get it! Link to post Share on other sites
Jay 17679 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 I assume Mike used some sort of official cue names (probably from a cue sheet or scoring log) and didn't just make them up. His email address is on his website http://www.mikematessino.com Link to post Share on other sites
chrissiddall 4 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 21 hours ago, lemoncurd said: It's great to be able to do transcriptions by ear... Actually it was done by eye (using scans of the original sheets for reference, same as Aliens), so would be interested to know where you're hearing errors so I can take another look! Link to post Share on other sites
Kylo Ray 0 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 7 hours ago, chrissiddall said: Actually it was done by eye (using scans of the original sheets for reference, same as Aliens), so would be interested to know where you're hearing errors so I can take another look! On 11/15/2020 at 2:32 PM, Jay said: Horner's cue names are used on the Blu Ray with Matessino's isolated score track https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1x3GBJHftmOQpaC8r5Zx6h2sHW9KxbpDThTrMgWYSXVs No, the cues for the film have never had "Official" cue names. Horner never named his cues until later on in his life. The Cue names by Varese are made up and the cue names by Michael Matessino are made up. Some people need to stop acting like they are authoritative figures. Link to post Share on other sites
Jay 17679 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 OK. I didn't know Mike made them up, I thought he used a cue list. No need to be harsh Link to post Share on other sites
Spider-Fal 2289 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 9 minutes ago, Jay said: OK. I didn't know Mike made them up, I thought he used a cue list. No need to be harsh All 3 of his posts here are like that for some reason. Link to post Share on other sites
ricsim88 125 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Cool find. But I’ll wait to see what Chris comes up with next. It’s really cool that people like Chris and the guys at Omni are giving us access to this material. I have Batman and How to train your dragon from Omni, and they’re incredible. I wouldn’t hesitate to buy anything from them again. Just waiting to see what’s next. Link to post Share on other sites
chrissiddall 4 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Eagle-eyed customers may spot a change in the shipping cost. Due to a technical error (i.e. the pink squidgy bit in the system: me), I failed to spot that Royal Mail made a change to their world zones and pricing in September, which had a significant impact on shipping prices to the US (doubled). That's now rectified so sorry to anyone who hasn't purchased a copy yet who wonders where the $15 option has gone, and congrats to the lucky "early adopters" who saved themselves $15!! Link to post Share on other sites
Jay 17679 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 People who purchased this have gotten this email Quote Dear customer Thank you very much for your order, it's exciting to be making more full score study books available for your interest and enjoyment. It is with regret that I have to let you know that we are not going to be able to reach our goal of shipping in time for Christmas. I know that a number of you have purchased this as a gift for loved ones, so I can only apologize for the disappointment and inconvenience caused. The challenges of "2020" have caused a delay in production which means I am not able to take delivery of the books until the new year. This is not the first impression that I was hoping to give. I hope that when you do hold the book in your hands the product will speak for itself and you will see that it was well worth the wait. If you would like to contact me directly, please use the email address above. I will contact everyone as soon as I have a firm date for dispatch. Many thanks for your continued support. And @chrissiddall has posted this update on FSM: Quote Hi all. Yes it was sent by me, and a very tough email to send. I'm equally if not even more disappointed that we haven't succeeded in shipping in time for Christmas but faced with the choice of compromising the quality of the end product, I feel that the lesser of two evils is to give the printer the time they need to do the fantastic job I know they now will. With regards to Brexit and customs after Jan 1st, nobody knows for sure (what a ridiculous situation), but I can say this as far as I know it right now: Printed sheet music is tax exempt and ships under a specific commodity code that identifies it specifically as printed sheet music. I don't have direct control over what any customs agent will decide to do when these packages cross their desks, but they will all ship with a properly filled in customs declaration that should mean no additional charges are applied. I look forward to seeing everyone's reactions when they do finally get their hands on these books. Any feedback about the books themselves, the packaging they're shipped in, any issues with customs, whatever it is I would love to hear it. Please feel free to contact me on info@chrissiddallmusic.com We also have a Twitter account and Facebook page where you can reach us and hopefully enthuse about your new scores!!! www.twitter.com/csmusicservices www.facebook.com/chrissiddallmusic https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=142107&forumID=1&archive=0 Link to post Share on other sites
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