Jay 37,364 Posted January 9, 2021 Author Share Posted January 9, 2021 You fell for his bait, Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 5 hours ago, publicist said: That you own Warlock but not Night Crossing is a gross injustice. In fact I purchased Warlock because it got a Saturn nomination. Last year I had 0 CDs of Goldsmith in my CD collection hehe. You have to start somewhere, thanks for the suggestion! Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 @publicist is right, Bes: NIGHT CROSSING is a terrific score. Geez, there's an awful lot of "additional music by", isn't there. Is this because of reshoots, or Jerry's failing health? Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted January 9, 2021 Author Share Posted January 9, 2021 Night Crossing is great 1 minute ago, Naïve Old Fart said: Geez, there's an awful lot of "additional music by", isn't there. Is this because of reshoots, or Jerry's failing health? Health Naïve Old Fart and Bespin 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 That's kinda what I figured, but ta awfully, @Jay. You're right: NIGHT CROSSING is great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 7 minutes ago, Jay said: Health Yes I think it always been documented that Goldsmith was too ill to complete the movie. So I expected this "expansion" to show more material not written by Goldsmith. But I also expect to have EVERYTHING he had time to record himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Combination of reshoots and Goldsmith being like "ah fuck it". Bespin and Kasey Kockroach 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 I just hope if Williams wrote another score, that it's not a cartoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Their final score is often the one you least suspect... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 I have to listen to the unused score of Timeline. For this one and about changes made to the movie again and again Goldmith really said: fuck it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 54 minutes ago, Bespin said: You have to start somewhere, thanks for the suggestion! It is as good as it gets, one of my Top 5 Goldsmith Scores! Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 It's an energetic, sometimes rousing score that sounds a bit too much like his 90's action stuff. Richard Donner lost, by his own account, the reason for making the movie during the long production process and was embarrassed by its badness. Both old men decided at some point they had given it what they could and just let it be. But people in advance screenings complained about the music, too, so this toxic combination led to a costly rescore. For a movie that made 22 Mio $ at the box office. That's Hollywood for you. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, publicist said: It's an energetic, sometimes rousing score that sounds a bit too much like his 90's action stuff. Richard Donner lost, by his own account, the reason for making the movie during the long production process and was embarrassed by its badness. Both old men decided at some point they had given it what they could and just let it be. But people in advance screenings complained about the music, too, so this toxic combination led to a costly rescore. For a movie that made 22 Mio $ at the box office. That's Hollywood for you. You are talking about Timeline? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Bespin said: You are talking about Timeline? Sure, but Brundlefly beat me. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 42 minutes ago, Bespin said: I just hope if Williams wrote another score, that it's not a cartoon. Why do you say that, Bes? Tintin is a serviceable score, to a risible film. It's easily the best part of that mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Naïve Old Fart said: Why do you say that, Bes? Tintin is a serviceable score, to a risible film. It's easily the best part of that mess. I had The BFG in mind when I wrote that hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Hee, hee. I completely forgot about BFG. I've seen the film once. Terrible. Bespin and Edmilson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 He should go out on a ballsy Ollie Stone pic. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Naïve Old Fart said: Hee, hee. I completely forgot about BFG. I've seen the film once. Terrible. At least it contains an accurate portrayal of the British royal family. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, publicist said: He should go out on a ballsy Ollie Stone pic. And well, if Rise of the Skywalker is the last one, thats okay for me too. So according to the tracklist, is it possible to determine the % of music really wrote and recorded by Goldsmith for his last score? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Yavar Moradi said: US Marshals does little for me outside of the theme in “The Pen” He wrote a theme for a pen? Geez! 1 hour ago, Yavar Moradi said: I think I will never like Extreme Prejudice. What a narrow-minded thing to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 9, 2021 Just now, Jurassic Shark said: He wrote a theme for a pen? Geez! It's mightier than the sword. Bespin, Jurassic Shark and Kasey Kockroach 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Just now, The Big Man said: It's mightier than the sword. The pen or its theme? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: He wrote a theme for a pen? Geez! I'm not au fait with that score, but it might mean "penitentiary". 1 minute ago, The Big Man said: It's mightier than the sword. The genius of the restoration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Au fait, hmmmm, so civilized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Mais oui! Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 It's "mais". Silent s. Fucking silent Sss in French hehe. But it's here to change the sound of the vowel. Mai (like the month of may, sounds exactly like may) Mais (like but... well I don't think you have this vowel in english... hmmm, well perhaps like the Sport team, the Mets, is this vowel sound, without the "ts") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Corrected, and touché. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 hour ago, publicist said: He should go out on a ballsy Ollie Stone pic. No, a collaboration with Alfonso Cuaron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondheim 1,157 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 I want at least one more Spielberg so that the last film Spielberg made in John's lifetime isn't West Side Story with David Newman EDIT: This reads like I am upset about David Newman which I never, ever am. I just want another great project for Williams, too Yavar Moradi and Not Mr. Big 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Wow, 39,95€ instead of 49,95€ thanks to the UK Varese Sarabande store! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Still expensive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EhTar 63 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 I don't own the original OST, so I happily ordered this Deluxe Edition. The fact the final part of the score was MIA has always disturbed me, so I am waiting for such an edition on CD since... 2003. I am curious about the samples, which I found not very well chosen (they doesn't show the potential of this score IMHO), but maybe it's just me. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 5 hours ago, Bespin said: And well, if Rise of the Skywalker is the last one, thats okay for me too. So according to the tracklist, is it possible to determine the % of music really wrote and recorded by Goldsmith for his last score? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, Ollie said: Yes. Tell me more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 It’s noted on track list which cues Debney and others worked on. And the liner notes have interviews with Debney and co, so we should get a clear picture. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted January 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 9, 2021 Love this score! The Bad Guy theme and the Yosemite Sam/Horse Riding theme are great! Once, Bespin, Pieter Boelen and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 16 hours ago, Brundlefly said: No, a collaboration with Alfonso Cuaron. Both would be fine, though Cuaron is more of a wild card. Williams penning a 15-minute score with simple guitar chords for a Netflix movie like Roma would be at least a change of pace and of course would be a great fuck you to the Star Wars guys here and elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondheim 1,157 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 I absolutely loved The Post. I'll take more minimalist Williams any day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 11 minutes ago, blondheim said: I absolutely loved The Post. I'll take more minimalist Williams any day Hmm, was The Post really "minimalism"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondheim 1,157 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 49 minutes ago, The Big Man said: Hmm, was The Post really "minimalism"? More minimalist, I'd say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 12 minutes ago, blondheim said: More minimalist, I'd say I mean sure, it's a more low key score that doesn't draw much attention to itself. But when someone mentions "minimalism", I think of Philip Glass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 3 hours ago, publicist said: Both would be fine, though Cuaron is more of a wild card. Williams penning a 15-minute score with simple guitar chords for a Netflix movie like Roma would be at least a change of pace and of course would be a great fuck you to the Star Wars guys here and elsewhere. Whoever the collaborator is gonna be, that is the essence of what his last work should be like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 5 hours ago, The Big Man said: Hmm, was The Post really "minimalism"? It was Williams in excellent Thriller mode, like he was for Presumed Innocent, by example. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 He should do more of these! The Post 2! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 The Post: Afternoon Edition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 There's Sleepers too, in the intimistic "Thrillers" category. EhTar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 8 hours ago, The Big Man said: I mean sure, it's a more low key score that doesn't draw much attention to itself. But when someone mentions "minimalism", I think of Philip Glass. Philip Glass doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 I own this OST and honestly don't think I've listened to it more than three times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Three times, that's better than zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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