Sandor 801 Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 With Memoirs just released it kind of made me realize that all the members here are from Holland (and some from other European countries, the US, Australia and some more minor countries), but none from the Asian countries.Why is that? And why are so many members here from The Netherlands anyway? I mean; what do we have, like only 16 million people or something? Why is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 I'm in Asia. Though Asia is in denial of that fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 801 Posted November 24, 2005 Author Share Posted November 24, 2005 I'm in Asia. Though Asia is in denial of that fact.*ssssttt* you're kind of invalidating this thread...But seriously; I'm talking more Japan, China, Korea or India... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 154 Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 You have any special interest in Asian people Roald? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 I have more John Williams bootlegs than a Chinese KMart.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam 1 Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 Its never surprised me that there aren’t as many fans from Asia - their cultures are a little moreinsulated, less Westernized. Israel, Western Europe, Northern Europe tend to be much moreinterlinked culturally with the US for obvious reasons. Plus, even if there were lots of JW fans inAsia, they’d be less likely to speak English so you wouldn’t necessarily discover them here anyway.But that still leaves the question of why are there so many Dutch posters, above and beyond therest of Europe it seems. Somebody please explain that one to me, assuming its not just a fluke ofsome sort. Is there more focus on Hollywood as an outlet for films, as opposed to other countries in Europe which have a stronger film industry of their own, France, England, etc.? I have no idea, just thinking out loud.- Adam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 801 Posted November 24, 2005 Author Share Posted November 24, 2005 But that still leaves the question of why are there so many Dutch posters, above and beyond therest of Europe it seems. Somebody please explain that one to me, assuming its not just a fluke ofsome sort.I really don't understand it either. And Holland is not known for it's love of film music believe me. We like Frans Bauer and stuff. If you now think: "Who's Frans Bauer?" I will say: "You lucky bastard! Hope you never ever have to find out!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,616 Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 I don't think I've announced this on this MB before, but I'm Japanese; my great-grandfather was American, but aside from that I own a Japanese passport. But since I was born in Vienna, Austria, my way of thinking is more Western-oriented, I guess. But all my relatives (and my mother) live in Japan and I feel very close to that country. As to why there are so many people from Holland -- I guess that's just coincidence. I'm actually more surprised that there aren't more American fans -- JW is an American, after all, and you'd think there would be more American than Dutch fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,282 Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 It's obviously because asian people suck and Dutch people don't.Stefancos- hoping that his girlfriend who was born and raised in Bangkok will never read this post... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,616 Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 It's obviously because asian people suck and Dutch people don't.quote]I think YOU suck. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 Despite the large number of Dutchies on this board, I'm fairly certain the Yanks are still in the majority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAfonso 189 Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 Well, how many dutch people are here, anyway?-ChrisP.S.:You have any special interest in Asian people Roald?Stefancos- hoping that his girlfriend who was born and raised in Bangkok will never read this post...Could the high amount of love for JW have anything to do with the obvious preference of Asian women? *deep in thought* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,282 Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 Could the high amount of love for JW have anything to do with the obvious preference of Asian women? *deep in thought*Contrary to Roald or Chrushercomix I definatly do not have a preference for asian women. the women I fell in love with just happens to be from that part of the world. Nor have I fallen for the ridiculous stereotypical ideas that asian women are more sophisticated or angelic then "western" women. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 801 Posted November 24, 2005 Author Share Posted November 24, 2005 Nor have I fallen for the ridiculous stereotypical ideas that asian women are more sophisticated or angelic then "western" women.Yeah, neither have I. Although I may have posted some euphoric things in the past which you undoubtly remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,282 Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 I clearly remember you and Chris sharing a moment together bashing every western women out there because the both of you struck struck gold in far away lands.I too once briefly believed in the stereotype, untill I had a slight...disagreement with my GF.There's a lot going on behind that enigmatic oriental smile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramer 0 Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 With Memoirs just released it kind of made me realize that all the members here are from Holland (and some from other European countries, the US, Australia and some more minor countries), but none from the Asian countries.Why is that? And why are so many members here from The Netherlands anyway? I mean; what do we have, like only 16 million people or something? Why is that?John Williams following in Japan is huge, but they have their own forums in their own language that's why you very rarely if ever see any asian people here.One of the biggest Williams sites from Japan:http://jwfc.oc.to/This is possibly the only "official" John Williams club in the world, having being acknowledged by Williams himself, not to mention he wrote a theme for the club: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,282 Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 That's not f*cking fair!!!!They get a theme and we don't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,282 Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 I'm in Asia. Though Asia is in denial of that fact.Isn't Israel in Europe?I know you guys won Eurovision once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scissorhands 16 Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 Diskobolus is Korean. Waiting for his reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,635 Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 Can anyone make a MIDI of this theme?K.m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 I'm in Asia. Though Asia is in denial of that fact.Isn't Israel in Europe?I know you guys won Eurovision once. Thrice, actually. Technically speaking, Israel is in Asia. I think Israel is in the Eurovision because Europe felt sorry for us when Asia didn't want to let us in to their club (Europe once liked Israel, you know). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat_burke 0 Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 I'm in Asia. Though Asia is in denial of that fact.Isn't Israel in Europe?I know you guys won Eurovision once.So did Turkey...FFS...there's a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurgaFlippinMan 7 Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 aargh. have u read my posts? i AM in asia...and really really asia, not in dispute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SturgisPodmore 0 Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 The member "pete" is from, as his 'location' puts it, "Seoul!"(Korea)~Sturgis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 912 Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 The member "pete" is from, as his 'location' puts it, "Seoul!"(Korea)~SturgisYep..actually I moved...Daegu now. (I'm Australian by the way)When I was teaching a school camp last summer I had one journal writing class. the kids just sit there and write diaries...at least thats what they were meant to do... I decided to give them some relaxing music to listen to while writing.. some Joe Hisaishi and some Williams..They all recognised Harry Potter music instantly, as well as the Hisaishi animation stuff: Totoro and Princess Mononoke especialyAny lack of Asian posters here isn't due to a lack of awareness of Williams and his music, probably more a lack of awareness of this site and the language barrier.thanks for noticing sturgess!PS I have heard Williams music in some pretty random places... a trumpeter practising in a Japanese highschool suddenly started playing Summon the Hreoes.. and on Korean TV I heard Olympic Spirit in the background of some TV show..forget what it was.Plus AFN Korea...The US Military's channel for the troops here often has little.... argh ....I'll use the word "inspirational" little ads highlighting past military victories....these often have Williams' music in the background.. JFK usually, plus I think I heard Born 4th once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin 2 Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 I have a midi version of the Fan Club theme. It's kinda catchy. If anyone wants it, PM me your email adress and I'll send it over.Justin - Who wants it to play whenever he comes to JWFan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxbabe 28 Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 Interesting...not just on JWFan, but all the film music boards I frequent, there are a large amount of Dutchies. (Or maybe it just seems that way because they are pretty vocal ) My boyfriend is Dutch, we met because of film music (he runs the JNH and Silvestri sites) and now I'm moving to Holland to be with him and finish school. We have often wondered why there are so many Dutchies on the boards and couldn't come up with a definite reason... But the Dutch seem to be very arts-conscious as a people, and like to debate and discuss, so maybe that combination accounts for it. Greta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 801 Posted November 25, 2005 Author Share Posted November 25, 2005 But the Dutch seem to be very arts-conscious as a people You're going to be sooooo dissapointed when you get here! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxbabe 28 Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 Perhaps....guess I'll see in a few months.I know there's several great museums, and two top notch orchestras I'm looking forward to seeing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,387 Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 We have often wondered why there are so many Dutchies on the boards and couldn't come up with a definite reason...You can go to the middle of the Sahara and still you'll find a bar where Dutchies are drinking Heineken. They are everywhere, just like the Germans! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 801 Posted November 25, 2005 Author Share Posted November 25, 2005 I know there's several great museums, and two top notch orchestras I'm looking forward to seeing...Don't forget to attend a Frans Bauer concert (NOT!) and eat frikadellen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxbabe 28 Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 Heh, my BF has warned me about a few things....especially a few certain Dutch "delicacies", and oh yes, the "hot Amsterdam music scene". Haha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,544 Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 Pity you didn't heed the warning about Dutch men. It's too late for you now, for soon you will be one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSM 126 Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 It's obviously because asian people suck and Dutch people don't.Stefancos- hoping that his girlfriend who was born and raised in Bangkok will never read this post...Well, I did and I am a little confused...according to you how should I feel? I am a Dutchman of Chinese origin (my grandparents emigrated from China). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,824 Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 Can anyone make a MIDI of this theme?K.m.That's what i was going to ask. And the important thing.WHo cares about the quantity of oriental-dutch members! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 58 Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 I hope Steef's girlfriend will give me very best duck in 10 days time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 801 Posted November 25, 2005 Author Share Posted November 25, 2005 WHo cares about the quantity of oriental-dutch members!Nobody. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSM 126 Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 I think in many Asian countries JW isn't that kown. Al least I don't think many of his soundtracks are sold over there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAfonso 189 Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 No, more like pirated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,282 Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 Don't forget to attend a Frans Bauer concert (NOT!) and eat frikadellen...Frans Bauer is good, but you should really see Marco Borsato live.Not to mention buy the collected works of Andre Hazes on CD.All the great food you are going to taste, Frikadellen, kroketten, kaas soufles, pikanto's, berenhappen and of course that old standby of Dutch cooking, the Donner Kebab.I'm gonna see to it that Hitch will be fattened up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 Oh, and don't be alarmed when everyone dresses up in orange and goes nuts whenever there's a big soccer competition. That's normal around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beowulf 4 Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 Well if one thing seems to be clear [especially on this board], its the universal appeal of John Williams' music. Adding to the the nationality soup that is already here, I can be categorized as an American of Indian origin (as in India) who was born in England and who is now living in Scotland! So judging by the different number of countries that are represented here, we can easily observe how John Williams music touches people right across the spectrum.Personally I think we should be proud, all.....with our unique listening tastes we're a select few pearls in the sheer ocean of mediocrity that surrounds us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,951 Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 this is a pretty interesting thread as it shows an inherent stereotyping by the author of the thread as he wrongly assumes that Asian means Oriental, as Morlock points out Israel is in Asia, as is all the Middle East, Afaganistan, Pakistan, India, and most of Russia, there is no look for the typical Asian.As I recall we've had posters from all over Asia, maybe not prime time regulars, but they pop in from time to time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 801 Posted November 25, 2005 Author Share Posted November 25, 2005 this is a pretty interesting thread as it shows an inherent stereotyping by the author of the thread as he wrongly assumes that Asian means Oriental, as Morlock points out Israel is in Asia, as is all the Middle East, Afaganistan, Pakistan, India, and most of Russia, there is no look for the typical Asian.Don't put words in my mouth with that Holier Than Thou attitude! I even mentioned INDIA! READ first ok, before you try to be a grumpy old man every chance you get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melange 446 Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 there is no look for the typical AsianThat is very true. But Roald did correct himself in the next few posts after the original, saying that what he really had in mind when he created the topic, were countries in East Asia like Japan, Korea etc, and South Asian regions like India. So i don't see him as "intentionally" stereotyping 'per se'. He just neglected to write down in words, the specific countries he had in mind. Is that so bad? 8O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,333 Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 Oh, and don't be alarmed when everyone dresses up in orange and goes nuts whenever there's a big soccer competition. That's normal around here.They do that all the time here, even without a football game. They're called garbage collectors, and they're normal around here, too.Marian - LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,282 Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 READ first ok, before you try to be a grumpy old man every chance you get.But he does it so well.Every place needs a grumpy old codger, why do you think Sesamstraat has Meneer Aart?Stefancos- who wonders why so many of Roald's thread get locked eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 801 Posted November 25, 2005 Author Share Posted November 25, 2005 But he does it so well.Every place needs a grumpy old codgerIf I may correct you; he USED to do it well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 801 Posted November 25, 2005 Author Share Posted November 25, 2005 Stefancos- who wonders why so many of Roald's thread get locked eventually.Because Neil hates me for some reason?I mean the Prequel thread: just delete the messages that were insulting, but to lock down the entire thread... man that's just messing with me. I never ever insulted anyone and even asked for positive feedback in that thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,282 Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 Roald, your intent was a very good one, and i'm sorry other people ruined it.But you should not take it personal, after you create a thread there's no way of knowing what others people may do with it.Trust me, I know, look were my circumcision thread has went too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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