Taikomochi 1,136 Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 Did you guys see the video someone made of the video of the film cued with the original scored War through Quaritch Down sequences? It's awesome, and much, much betterI did. It was shocking because the music never needed to be edited because it fit perfectly anyways. Cameron, you disappoint.I've been working on my edit. I stuck "Intro" and "Leonopteryx" together as they appear in the film. I really think it sounds great. What I thought worked unusually well was stick "The Hunt" at the end of that, since I was trying to make bulkier cues. The way it picks up after that mellow near-silence works very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 I found a 3-disc and a 5-disc version of this music, but I'm a bit confused.What would be the best way to create, say, a 2-disc intended version without tracking, SFX and mono sound quality?"Best" as in "least effort to create". Unfortunately I always am hard-pressed for time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,694 Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 Luke's made this for Horner's intended score: http://jwfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=18651&view=findpost&p=639223Personally, I just listened through everything one evening and made a nice 2 hour set, disregarding whether I was hearing a film or alternate version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 I found a 3-disc and a 5-disc version of this music, but I'm a bit confused.What would be the best way to create, say, a 2-disc intended version without tracking, SFX and mono sound quality?"Best" as in "least effort to create". Unfortunately I always am hard-pressed for time.For myself I mostly used the 5-CD intended edition set as the 3-CD set was just the isolated score complete with micro edits and some tracks were in mono. As I said I mostly used the 5-CD set for my intended edition, took out the repeated cues and put all the alternates on Disc 3 since Discs 1 and 2 which are pretty full. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 I still have been to lazy to wade through the 5 disk set. I want to make a "complete" score with the best takes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,369 Posted June 13, 2010 Author Share Posted June 13, 2010 Ditto KM, I want to make a nice set but the task of wading through all 5 discs is so intimidating I've just been listening to other people's edits instead of making my own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 yes...me too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,694 Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 You just have to invest a bit of time (it took me 2-3 hours). I don't even have a representation of the entire score. I just deleted what bored me, and kept the most interesting take of what I liked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Well, I can certainly recommend following Luke S.'s tracklist, for one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,694 Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Yeah I followed that as a guide to constructing it, but then made my own decisions regarding which version to use, and whether to include a cue at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 Hey the special edition of avatar is going to include the hunt, destroyed school and the bioluminescence of the night...lets see if it can help orgering unused cues... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 Yay! The Hunt is awesome! I figured it would be after I saw a clip that resembled a hunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 I'll gladly wait for it to be released on Blu-Ray in November where 40 minutes (instead of 8) of additional footage will be re-inserted back into the film. I was barely able to sit through this movie the one time I saw in theaters, with out having to pee during the film. Not sure if I would be able to do it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,369 Posted September 22, 2010 Author Share Posted September 22, 2010 Hey the special edition of avatar is going to include the hunt, destroyed school and the bioluminescence of the night...Is going to include? The SE was released to theaters on August 27th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,369 Posted September 22, 2010 Author Share Posted September 22, 2010 I'll gladly wait for it to be released on Blu-Ray in November where 40 minutes (instead of 8) of additional footage will be re-inserted back into the film. I was barely able to sit through this movie the one time I saw in theaters, with out having to pee during the film. Not sure if I would be able to do it again.Actually the theatrical re-release was 9 minutes longer, and the blu ray release in November will be 16 minutes longerhttp://www.oregonlive.com/movies/index.ssf/2010/08/interview_with_james_cameron_o.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 Isn't there one where it's shorter? By about two and three-quarter hours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 Isn't there one where it's shorter? By about two and three-quarter hours?Oh, I see what you did thar. You are clever. Really, really clever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 Actually the theatrical re-release was 9 minutes longer, and the blu ray release in November will be 16 minutes longerhttp://www.oregonlive.com/movies/index.ssf/2010/08/interview_with_james_cameron_o.htmlAh okay thanks for the information. Still I will wait until November and buy it on Blu-Ray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,369 Posted September 22, 2010 Author Share Posted September 22, 2010 Yea I'll rent the blu ray, I'm curious to see the extended scenesI just realized this is a thread for editing the score; we have a separate thread for the re-release(s) of the filmhttp://jwfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=18654 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 Hey the special edition of avatar is going to include the hunt, destroyed school and the bioluminescence of the night...Is going to include? The SE was released to theaters on August 27thit had not been released here until yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 CD1 80:00 min01 "You don't dream in cryo...." 1m1 You Dont dream in Cryo02 Quaritch speech 1m4 Quaritch Speech03 First look 1m5 Unused04 Jake enters his avatar world 2m1 Jake enters his avatar world05 Into the Na'vi world 2m2 unused Redo (Into de Na'vi World alt)06 Exploring 2m3a Exploring07 Thanator chase 2m3b Thanator Chase (I suppose most will use the one from the 3cd set, but the ending is different, i dont mind the echoed drums, after all this score is so enthic-electronic that it may even be intended...)08 Found and lost 3m1 Pure spirits of the forest (38 secs) + 3m1 Excerpt09 Viperwolves attack 3m1 Viperwolves10 Pure Spirits of the forest/Jake Meets the Na'vi 3m2 Jake Meets the na'vi11 Na'vi Hometree chant 3m3 Na'Vi Hometree Chant12 Na'vi Hometree source 3m3 Unused (I suppose it is an alternate of 3m3 or 3m4)13 Sleep 3m5 Sleep14 The Plan 4m1 The Plan15 The village/Jake's first ride 4m2 v815ish16 The Hallelujah Mountains 4m3a The Floating Mountains Pt. 117 The shack 4m3b The Floating Mountains Pt. 2a18 Hometree/Ikran - The mountain banshee 4m3d The Floating Mountains Pt. 319 Becoming one of "The People" 4m4 Vocal Version20 Bioluminescence of the night 4m5 Unused21 The school incident/Climbing up "Iknimaya - The Path to Heaven" 5m1 Climbing Up Iknimaya22 Jake gets his banshee 5m2 Flight of the Banshee (orig pts 1 & 2) Split at 2:40 (that is, before eliminating the silences) 23 Jake's first flight 5m2 Flight of the Banshee (orig pts 1 & 2) (Mix the OST solo voice ending)24 The hunt 5m2 The Hunt25 Death from above 5m3 Intro26 Great Leonopteryx 5m3 Leonopteryx27 Jake's video log 6m1 Unused28 A man of my word 6m2 A man of my Word29 Becoming one with Neytiri 6m4 Jake & Neytiri (unused)watching the collectors edition, i noticed that the hunt goes before the leonopteryx attack. It seems the cue (5m2) was correctly named. Though the script does have the scene after the leonopteryx attack.bioluminescence of the night i think it is partially used, (the ending) and is 4m5.the school incident goes there in 5m1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kühni 485 Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 5 CDs, huh? And yet nothing has ever...leaked from Titanic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 It's had 100+ years, I'm sure many many gallons of engine oil and food liquids have leaked into the Atlantic. Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 10 hours ago, I Need About Tree Fiddy said: It's had 100+ years, I'm sure many many gallons of engine oil and food liquids have leaked into the Atlantic. The Titanic was coal-powered. There was no engine oil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 That's why I was careful to not say fuel. But all those massive moving parts needed lubrication. Oil. Even if it was vegetable oil. Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 The Titanic needed lube? Oooo Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 Rose and Jack fucked in an automobile on the Titanic. Cars do not float. Usually. Thus, car oil and fuel leaked into the Atlantic Ocean. QED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 They were just cuddling in the nude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,534 Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 It's a shame really: the AVATAR series was all set to become Horner's LOTR. Instead, it turned out to be just another late-period ho hum Horner score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,369 Posted April 9, 2017 Author Share Posted April 9, 2017 Yes, the Avatar recording sessions leaked in lossless. Easily found on the site that worships that video game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, Jay said: Yes, the Avatar recording sessions leaked in lossless. Easily found on the site that worships that video game. Which, if anyone was confused, is not JWFan and Breath of the Wild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 That certain website apparently stopped sending recovery passwords, so I'm SOL when stuff leaks (I always buy film music that's commercially available). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 Can't you just create a new account? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, BloodBoal said: Can't you just create a new account? They've apparently stopped sending out emails at all. Every time I try to reset a password or create a new account the email to verify never arrives. I've obviously checked spam folders and such. It doesn't surprise that they run kind of a crappy operation over there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 I hope the complete recordings for this get an official release. Perhaps when Avatar 2 comes out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,369 Posted April 10, 2017 Author Share Posted April 10, 2017 I could see a label getting the rights to this. The Abyss and Terminator got expanded! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Still feels a bit too soon for it to be release in complete form. What was the most recent score to have been released in complete form by one of the labels? By that, I mean: what was the shortest period of time between a score being recorded for a film and it being released in complete form? I know it doesn't necessarily prove anything, but would like to know out of curiosity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,369 Posted April 10, 2017 Author Share Posted April 10, 2017 27 minutes ago, BloodBoal said: What was the most recent score to have been released in complete form by one of the labels? By that, I mean: what was the shortest period of time between a score being recorded for a film and it being released in complete form? Great question! Here's what comes to me, just off the top of my head Beltrami's 3:10 To Yuma = 2007 -> 2015 = 8 years Williams' Home Alone 2 = 1992 -> 2002 = 10 years Giacchino's Sky High = 2005 -> 2017 = 12 years Debney's CutThroat Island = 1995 -> 2005 = 10 years Giacchino's Medal of Honor: Airborne = 2007 -> 2011 = 4 years Oh! Giacchino's Star Trek scores, all 1 year each. Tomorrow Never Dies, 1 year The Phantom Menace, 1 year Lionheart, 0 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,369 Posted April 10, 2017 Author Share Posted April 10, 2017 What are you talking about? Airborne absolutely had a release in 2007. Heck, its still for sale now https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JI3YA24 https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/id260555774 etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Oh, well, OK, my bad. 4 years it is, then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,369 Posted April 10, 2017 Author Share Posted April 10, 2017 Would be great if we got an expanded Avatar in 2019 for the 10th anniversary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,317 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 On 4/10/2017 at 2:56 PM, Jay said: Would be great if we got an expanded Avatar in 2019 for the 10th anniversary Roger Feigelson just posted this update on the topic of Avatar getting an expansion. Quote Quote Quote MV any chance on a complete release for Horner's 2009 Avatar? Intrada tried to release this a few years ago, but got rejected on account of it being too recent. Correct...the project was cleared by both Fox and WMG, but the AFM policy doesn't allow for these collector release for anything recorded after August 2005. It's stalled a bunch of projects actually. If the policy changes we'll be able to proceed. Very frustrating! And extremely unlikely the AFM will change their policy in the midst of a pandemic, when royalties are probably the only income musicians have been receiving the past year. MV followed up with an interesting clarification about how Superman Returns was able to be expanded, despite being a 2006 LA recording and falling under the same union rules as Avatar. Quote Honestly its none of your business how any deals are made, but in the case of Superman Returns that deal was cut before the new renegotiated union rules went active and it was pricey. MV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Sheesh MV has always come across as a jerk. I remember a couple of years ago, I asked him on Facebook about whether LLL would be addressing Australia's new import tax and he just gave me cheek about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,466 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Avatar doesn't play well in complete form, unless you're a fan of exotic indigenous music. Believe me, I tried listening to the recording sessions several times. The optimal listening experience is still the OST with the additional tracks from the deluxe edition, plus one cue from the sessions: 9M5 Quaritch Down. It's probably the best action cue by Horner on the XXI century, don't know why he didn't included it on the official releases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Edmilson said: Avatar doesn't play well in complete form, unless you're a fan of exotic indigenous music. That is really offensive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Yeah only Western orchestral colonialist music is any good. Exotic indigenous crap? It's shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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