The Academy changes rules regarding Best Original Score

[Alex 2,835]

http://www.thewrap.com/new-oscars-rules-knock-multi-part-documentaries-like-oj-made-america/

 

And the Music Branch will now allow a film score written by three or more “equally contributing” composers. In the past, it was extremely difficult for a score written by two composers to qualify, and impossible for a score written by more than two to become eligible.

 

“In the Music (Original Score) category, in the case of a score that has three or more equally contributing composers, the composers may be considered as a group. If the score wins the Original Score award, the group would receive a single statuette.”

 

I wonder how they define "equally contributing".

[Quintus 5,399]

Needed modernising ages ago so this is about time really. 

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

One person can't write a whole score anyway.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Well I guess that signifies the death of film music as an artistic medium!

 

RIP

[leeallen01 2,136]

2018 Oscars - "And the Oscar goes to... Remote Control Productions."

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

At least now Bear McCreary's work is eligible!

[leeallen01 2,136]

Just now, Stefancos said:

At least now Bear McCreary's work is eligible!

 

?

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Much of his work is co-written by others. His TV work anyway.

[leeallen01 2,136]

Proof please.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Wasnt that common knowledge by now? Thats how he's able to do like 6 or 7 shows and season and do films.

 

I dont even think its really a secret.

[Naïve Old Fart 9,528]

11 minutes ago, leeallen01 said:

2018 Oscars - "And the Oscar goes to... Remote Control Productions."

 

 RAOTFLMFAO!

[BloodBoal 7,538]

[leeallen01 2,136]

Just now, Stefancos said:

Wasnt that common knowledge by now? Thats how he's able to do like 6 or 7 shows and season and do films.

 

I dont even think its really a secret.

 

 

Nope not true. He writes all his own music.

 

Still waiting for proof though...?

[BloodBoal 7,538]

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Isnt it generally understood the shows he talk about a lot on Twitter are the ones he puts the most personal effort in?

[Kühni 485]

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[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

The Academy is as famous for ignoring its own rules as it is for changing it.

[leeallen01 2,136]

I interviewed him in 2015 and he said he writes his own music and doesn't have a team of composer helping him. I don't recall seeing any additional music credits on his scores. All composers have additional music composers on a few random scores here and there, but he definitely does not have a secret team of composers doing all his work with him. 

[Naïve Old Fart 9,528]

TLE went to the three people who scored it. Three composers, three Oscars™.

[BloodBoal 7,538]

[Naïve Old Fart 9,528]

True dat.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

After Williams passes away they will change the rule that a composer will have to be alive and working so they can still nominate him!

[Quintus 5,399]

It's interesting, you frequently refer to you and I as "old men", but I think that you relate to it more than I do, because you're the one who is clearly stuck living in the past. 

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

5 minutes ago, Quintus said:

It's interesting, you frequently refer to you and I as "old men", but I think that you relate to it more than I do, because you're the one who is clearly stuck living in the past. 

 

What? Wrong thread?

[Quintus 5,399]

I suppose it's entirely possible you were being sarcastic in your first reply in the thread. If so, disregard my previous post. It was the Likes attached which makes me think it's been taken quite seriously... 

[Brundlefly 2,385]

Now, Zimmer's ghostwriters get the chance to win an oscar.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

21 minutes ago, Quintus said:

I suppose it's entirely possible you were being sarcastic in your first reply in the thread. If so, disregard my previous post. It was the Likes attached which makes me think it's been taken quite seriously... 

 

You obviously know me better than those 3 who liked my post! 

 

I was being sarcastic in a way. Though I am far more drawn to scores with an individuals style than a comittee score

[Quintus 5,399]

Me too, but in the end I don't really care how music I enjoy arrives at my ears. I don't think it matters in the slightest. 

[Marian Schedenig 8,193]

So William Ross will get a co-nomination for The Last Jedi?

"Keep it, Billy-baby, I all out of space for it anyway."

[crumbs 14,316]

So far as I know, William Ross has nothing to do with The Last Jedi. Williams has composed and orchestrated every cue himself.

[BloodBoal 7,538]

[crumbs 14,316]

Well, apart from all the cues Felix Erskine wrote.

[Koray Savas 2,251]

2 hours ago, Brundlefly said:

Now, Zimmer's ghostwriters get the chance to win an oscar.

Zimmer doesn't have ghostwriters. They're all credited on the sheets. That's why Dark Knight was first declared ineligible. 

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Its the single oldest lie about Zimmer thats still told

[BloodBoal 7,538]

That he doesn't have ghostwriters? Indeed!

[Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488]

The Academy Awards don't matter, anyway. It's just a platform for dizzy-headed Hollywood liberals to protest.

[Alex 2,835]

They never pick the best score anyway!

[Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488]

Not since 1997.

[Quintus 5,399]

The last time I saw the Academy Awards was when I stayed up late one night in '94 to see Spielberg enjoy his first drink after the longest drought of his life. 

[publicist 4,643]

1 hour ago, Selina Kyle said:

Not since 1997.

 

'The English Patient' was all class.

[Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488]

It was better than everything!

[Bespin 8,482]

Dear Academy,

 

Don't change your rules, give all the statuettes to John Williams.

 

Thanks.

[Dixon Hill 4,234]

6 hours ago, leeallen01 said:

I interviewed him in 2015 and he said he writes his own music and doesn't have a team of composer helping him. I don't recall seeing any additional music credits on his scores. All composers have additional music composers on a few random scores here and there, but he definitely does not have a secret team of composers doing all his work with him. 

 

There is only one relatively prominent composer who is "known" to have some genuine, shady ghostwriting stuff happening.  It is not Bear. 

[publicist 4,643]

It's Brian!

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Well of course a composer who uses ghostwriters isnt gonna tell in an interview that he uses ghostwriters. That's why film music fans really should not be allowed interview their heroes 

[publicist 4,643]

What does it matter, anyway? It's not as if the works we are talking about here are great artistic statements. If we were to learn that, i. e., half of 'E. T.' or 'Star Trek TMP' was written by a team of LA composers it would be an entirely different matter.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Oh I agree. 

Though of course parts of TMP were ghostwritten, in the way that Steiner and Courage weren't credited in the film.

[publicist 4,643]

That's why i cheekily choose that example (and this particular Williams because it was subject of a plagiarism lawsuit) but also because it is clear how they amount to storms in a teacup. With current composers for films and television often offering up broad eclectic templates with a limited amount of personal expression i don't see much of an issue here. The gregarious amounts of tv underscore McCreary is officially responsible for: i listen to stuff like this on Spotify and while a lot of it is competently done,  it is also anonymous in its writing to the extent that a, say, John Barry score could never be. It's just the nature of the beast and we must part by acting as if modern film and tv music still is the same kind of single artistic achievement that it was in the Golden or Silver Age.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Again I agree. Most of what i have heard of Bear is competent but generic. Better than most of what is written for TV. But thats kinda it. It's not that vital a question who wrote what.

 

His fans seem to either resent the implication, or tip-toe around the issue.

[publicist 4,643]

Morons.