#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,383 Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 The iconic Goldsmith cue, tweaked by Brian Tyler.Like or dislike?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuVnBIXVwcg
crocodile 9,724 Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 A bit overdone, but, seriously, it could have been worse.Karol
chuck 155 Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 Meh, I still like the original.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVP0AgaYoe4Although, Brian Tyler seems to be following in the footsteps left by Goldsmith.
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,383 Posted March 1, 2012 Author Posted March 1, 2012 I agree. Tyler adds some things that don't need to be there, but he stays true to Jerry's theme.But honestly, could they not have used the old recording with these new, very cool visuals?
Quintus 6,493 Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 The graphics are spectacular; the OTT music is but a shadow of Jerry's original.My subwoofer won't even bother trying to register those lame-arsed BUM-BUMs. And I used to fucking love those bits as well.And the snares... wtf?
KK 3,313 Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 I agree. Tyler adds some things that don't need to be there, but he stays true to Jerry's theme.But honestly, could they not have used the old recording with these new, very cool visuals?Nah...they need to make EVERYTHING flashy!!! Including the sound.I obviously like the old recording better, but while this might be a tad bit overdone, I think its still done well enough!
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,383 Posted March 1, 2012 Author Posted March 1, 2012 My subwoofer won't even bother trying to register those lame-arsed BUM-BUMs. And I used to fucking love those bits as well.They are almost the point of the entire piece. And yes they are too soft.Jerry knew how to land his DUMS!
Quintus 6,493 Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 Why did Tyler do away with the high register strings which 'bed' the splendid original? Is that sort of lush warmth no longer trendy?
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,383 Posted March 1, 2012 Author Posted March 1, 2012 It's too "touchy feely" now.
chuck 155 Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 My subwoofer won't even bother trying to register those lame-arsed BUM-BUMs. And I used to fucking love those bits as well.They are almost the point of the entire piece. And yes they are too soft.Jerry knew how to land his DUMS!Yeah, the BOOMs!!! The BOOMs are what made this fanfare so special!!!
crocodile 9,724 Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 Just to rumble things up Never heard that one before.Karol
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,383 Posted March 1, 2012 Author Posted March 1, 2012 It sounds fine to me.It sounds ok, but they messed with Jerry's steamlined, but ultra effective orchestration and instrumentation.This new version has a lot more going on, but it's slightly less effective.Joel McNeely explains it here 5.1 is great for Jerry's superior original.To me it says "it's fuckin' movie time!"
crocodile 9,724 Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 And after that promising epic fanfare, in true Jerry fashion, movies rarely deliver. Karol
Quintus 6,493 Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 This Tyler monstrosity sounds odd. It sounds like three different ideas welded to together. If it were a car it'd be a cut'n'shut.
chuck 155 Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 Just to rumble things up Never heard that one before.KarolYou know John Williams tweaked it himself.
KK 3,313 Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 "Monstrosity" is a bit strong isn't it? I think he did a fine job with it...would you have liked Djawadi to have done it instead? The fanfare would have been reduced to some fuzzy pop tune, and your BUM BUMs would sure be affected...
chuck 155 Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 It sounds fine to me.It sounds ok, but they messed with Jerry's steamlined, but ultra effective orchestration and instrumentation.This new version has a lot more going on, but it's slightly less effective.Joel McNeely explains it here 5.1 is great for Jerry's superior original.To me it says "it's fuckin' movie time!"Yep, Jerry's motto is "less is more".
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,383 Posted March 1, 2012 Author Posted March 1, 2012 Not throughout his whole career, but certainly from the 90's
Quintus 6,493 Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 To me it says "it's fuckin' movie time!"Fuckin' eh! You got that right!How do you like my Pvt Hudson impression?
Quintus 6,493 Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 Ha ha ha!Although, Alex would take issue with that image - the deviant black shadow directly above Paxton's head completely ruins the composition and framing of the shot. The film is an unmitigated failure as a result.
Jay 46,241 Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 I don't like the new graphics or the new recording of the music. There was nothing wrong with the existing one.
indy4 160 Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 I like the new version. But the snare drums are too loud at the end, and a little too sloppy.
KK 3,313 Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 Ya, the snare drums was the big problem with this new version. Otherwise, the tribute is decent enough.
LongTallJodie 76 Posted March 2, 2012 Posted March 2, 2012 Whoa, somehow never noticed the Williams / ET logo. Great, now I have to stick it in my ET edit.
Damien F 2,079 Posted March 2, 2012 Posted March 2, 2012 I dislike it, although the original is so iconic and has been heard so many times, I don't envy Tyler's job. It sounds a little too over the top for my taste, with the snare drums and choir a step too far. Rather than beefing up the existing logo, perhaps they should have merged an older logo's music into the new one to create a sense of history.As for the graphics, I got goosebumps when I saw the lights turning on - always a good sign!
Richard P 5,302 Posted March 2, 2012 Posted March 2, 2012 I liked it until the chords he's added over the first bar - it takes away from the simplicity and strength of Goldsmith's melody, and also means a rather sudden change of tone when the 'b' part comes in.Choir is okay I guess - nothing against that really.The graphics are really neat, but he's made the music just a little too layered for me.
SF1_freeze 138 Posted March 2, 2012 Posted March 2, 2012 What a dissapointing new recording. All the oomph and percussive power are lost. Lame ass way to degrade a great fanfare.
Matt C 605 Posted March 2, 2012 Posted March 2, 2012 The rearranged theme is okay -- the original 1997 fanfare is just better, simpler and more powerful. I don't understand the fanfare Universal made about hiring the people at Weta Digital to design a new opening for the 100th anniversary... it's not that impressive but it's clean and well-designed.
p0llux 435 Posted March 2, 2012 Posted March 2, 2012 Here's what I got from the new version:1. A rising bass line, doubled with choir during the repeat of the A theme.2. Snare drum in the end.3. Transposed down a key.4. Removed cymbal crash when B theme begins.5. Low brass removed from the "DUM DUMs", aka bass/snare drum hits.6. Choir during B theme?Feel free to add more to this list.
Wycket 36 Posted March 2, 2012 Posted March 2, 2012 Still like the Horner version the best. I do like the graphics, as I always hated the modern Universal logo. The new arrangement is alright, I just would have done without the military like drums at the end.
chuck 155 Posted March 2, 2012 Posted March 2, 2012 Still like the Horner version the best. I do like the graphics, as I always hated the modern Universal logo. The new arrangement is alright, I just would have done without the military like drums at the end.Huh? Horner?
Datameister 2,586 Posted March 2, 2012 Posted March 2, 2012 If this were something new that someone had just come up with, I'd be rather impressed. But it's a downgrade from the spectacular Goldsmith original, which very well be my favorite logo music of all time. (The Fox fanfare gives it a run for its money, for obvious sentimental reasons.)
KK 3,313 Posted March 2, 2012 Posted March 2, 2012 Still like the Horner version the best. I do like the graphics, as I always hated the modern Universal logo. The new arrangement is alright, I just would have done without the military like drums at the end.Huh? Horner? The theme for Universal before Goldsmith's fanfare came along. It's quite good actually. The Goldsmith one is just better
chuck 155 Posted March 2, 2012 Posted March 2, 2012 If this were something new that someone had just come up with, I'd be rather impressed. But it's a downgrade from the spectacular Goldsmith original, which very well be my favorite logo music of all time. (The Fox fanfare gives it a run for its money, for obvious sentimental reasons.)Yeah, that and the fact that David Newman stayed faithful to his father's original orchestration and tweaked it very little when he re-recorded it back in 1997.Still like the Horner version the best. I do like the graphics, as I always hated the modern Universal logo. The new arrangement is alright, I just would have done without the military like drums at the end.Huh? Horner? It's quite good actually. The Goldsmith one is just better I never knew this was made by Horner. Still doesn't even matched up to Goldsmith's though.
Erik Woods 841 Posted March 2, 2012 Posted March 2, 2012 Here's the complete version of Horner's theme which was first heard before Back To The Future Part III. Even though I love Jerry's 1997 theme, Horner is the one I'm that most fond of.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cADCSq9dylo-Erik-
Marian Schedenig 11,694 Posted March 2, 2012 Posted March 2, 2012 Seriously overdone. Replaces Goldsmith's careful balance with mindless bombast. As a result, it sounds rather insincere.
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,383 Posted March 2, 2012 Author Posted March 2, 2012 Lol, i knew you would say that. Funny though, beforr this new recording I would not have considered Goldsmiths original "minimalist"....
JoeinAR 1,957 Posted March 2, 2012 Posted March 2, 2012 typically Universal doesn't have a f'ing clue on how to hand it's vast treasures.Jerry's music is fine, this alternate is FINE, but for the 100th anniversary why not take a look back at the beauty of the music from the 30's intro, the ones that graced their classic horror films.I can hear it in my head as I type.
crocodile 9,724 Posted March 2, 2012 Posted March 2, 2012 Here's the complete version of Horner's theme which was first heard before Back To The Future Part III. Even though I love Jerry's 1997 theme, Horner is the one I'm that most fond of.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cADCSq9dylo-Erik-Hey, this one is great too! Didn't know it was Horner. I'd say I like both equally, that is Goldsmith's and Horner's.Karol
Greg1138 3 Posted March 2, 2012 Posted March 2, 2012 The new one is fine...things have to change with the times, and Goldsmth's superb fanfare was due for a spruce-up. Is the new one better? No....is it just - fine? Yep....
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now