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Hey, look. I get it. You wanna be contrary.
 
But for those of us who want to support music archiving… and future proofing of these assets… these releases are important. 
 
For one, its Mike. He knows what he’s doing.
 
For two, the original is out of print and I don’t know many people who wanna spend close to $300 online for it.
 
Then there’s the fact it finally includes the only real missing performance from the old set AND the corrected film mix of another.
 
Add to it the fact that the 20th Anniversary set many people do have is deeply flawed. This corrects that too.

It’s ok to not want it but it’s ok for others to want it. It’s at least not whole sale deception like some other labels do or including poorly done editing / mastering…. I’d be one of the first to say it if so.
 
 
You should also know as well as I do that these separate re-releases are usually how they go about EXPANDING things (superman anyone?) and seeing as there are 5 other film scores that could be released… I think it would be ignorant to think this will be just a one off thing.
 
So in the end I WELCOME this and hope that we continue to get more of the music from the series!

Hey, look. I get it. You wanna be contrary.
 
But for those of us who want to support music archiving… and future proofing of these assets… these releases are important. 
 
For one, its Mike. He knows what he’s doing.
 
For two, the original is out of print and I don’t know many people who wanna spend close to $300 online for it.
 
Then there’s the fact it finally includes the only real missing performance from the old set AND the corrected film mix of another.
 
Add to it the fact that the 20th Anniversary set many people do have is deeply flawed. This corrects that too.

It’s ok to not want it but it’s ok for others to want it. It’s at least not whole sale deception like some other labels do or including poorly done editing / mastering…. I’d be one of the first to say it if so.
 
 
You should also know as well as I do that these separate re-releases are usually how they go about EXPANDING things (superman anyone?) and seeing as there are 5 other film scores that could be released… I think it would be ignorant to think this will be just a one off thing.
 
So in the end I WELCOME this and hope that we continue to get more of the music from the series!

Hey, look. I get it. You wanna be contrary.
 
But for those of us who want to support music archiving… and future proofing of these assets… these releases are important. 
 
For one, its Mike. He knows what he’s doing.
 
For two, the original is out of print and I don’t know many people who wanna spend close to $300 online for it.
 
Then there’s the fact it finally includes the only real missing performance from the old set AND the corrected film mix of another.
 
Add to it the fact that the 20th Anniversary set many people do have is deeply flawed. This corrects that too.

It’s ok to not want it but it’s ok for others to want it. It’s at least not whole sale deception like some other labels do or including poorly done editing / mastering…. I’d be one of the first to say it if so.
 
 
You should also know as well as I do that these separate re-releases are usually how they go about EXPANDING things (superman anyone?) and seeing as there are 5 other film scores that could be released… I think it would be ignorant to think this will be just a one off thing.
 
So in the end I WELCOME this and hope that we continue to get more of the music from the series!

Hey, look. I get it. You wanna be contrary.
 
But for those of us who want to support music archiving… and future proofing of these assets… these releases are important. 
 
For one, its Mike. He knows what he’s doing.
 
For two, the original is out of print and I don’t know many people who wanna spend close to $300 online for it.
 
Then there’s the fact it finally includes the only real missing performance from the old set AND the corrected film mix of another.
 
Add to it the fact that the 20th Anniversary set many people do have is deeply flawed. This corrects that too.

It’s ok to not want it but it’s ok for others to want it. It’s at least not whole sale deception like some other labels do or including poorly done editing / mastering…. I’d be one of the first to say it if so.
 
 
You should also know as well as I do that these separate re-releases are usually how they go about EXPANDING things (superman anyone?) and seeing as there are 5 other film scores that could be released… I think it would be ignorant to think this will be just a one off thing.
 
So in the end I WELCOME this and hope that we continue to get more of the music from the series!

Hey, look. I get it. You wanna be contrary.
 
But for those of us who want to support music archiving… and future proofing of these assets… these releases are important. 
 
For one, its Mike. He knows what he’s doing.
 
For two, the original is out of print and I don’t know many people who wanna spend close to $300 online for it.
 
Then there’s the fact it finally includes the only real missing performance from the old set AND the corrected film mix of another.
 
Add to it the fact that the 20th Anniversary set many people do have is deeply flawed. This corrects that too.

It’s ok to not want it but it’s ok for others to want it. It’s at least not whole sale deception like some other labels do or including poorly done editing / mastering…. I’d be one of the first to say it if so.
 
 
You should also know as well as I do that these separate re-releases are usually how they go about EXPANDING things (superman anyone?) and seeing as there are 5 other film scores that could be released… I think it would be ignorant to think this will be just a one off thing.
 
So in the end I WELCOME this and hope that we continue to get more of the music from the series!

Hey, look. I get it. You wanna be contrary.
 
But for those of us who want to support music archiving… and future proofing of these assets… these releases are important. 
 
For one, its Mike. He knows what he’s doing.
 
For two, the original is out of print and I don’t know many people who wanna spend close to $300 online for it.
 
Then there’s the fact it finally includes the only real missing performance from the old set AND the corrected film mix of another.
 
Add to it the fact that the 20th Anniversary set many people do have is deeply flawed. This corrects that too.

It’s ok to not want it but it’s ok for others to want it. It’s at least not whole sale deception like some other labels do or including poorly done editing / mastering…. I’d be one of the first to say it if so.
 
 
You should also know as well as I do that these separate re-releases are usually how they go about EXPANDING things (superman anyone?) and seeing as there are 5 other film scores that could be released… I think it would be ignorant to think this will be just a one off thing.
 
So in the end I WELCOME this and hope that we continue to get more of the music from the series!

Hey, look. I get it. You wanna be contrary.
 
But for those of us who want to support music archiving… and future proofing of these assets… these releases are important. 
 
For one, its Mike. He knows what he’s doing.
 
For two, the original is out of print and I don’t know many people who wanna spend close to $300 online for it.
 
Then there’s the fact it finally includes the only real missing performance from the old set AND the corrected film mix of another.
 
Add to it the fact that the 20th Anniversary set many people do have is deeply flawed. This corrects that too.

It’s ok to not want it but it’s ok for others to want it. It’s at least not whole sale deception like some other labels do or including poorly done editing / mastering…. I’d be one of the first to say it if so.
 
 
You should also know as well as I do that these separate re-releases are usually how they go about EXPANDING things (superman anyone?) and seeing as there are 5 other film scores that could be released… I think it would be ignorant to think this will be just a one off thing.
 
So in the end I WELCOME this and hope that we continue to get more of the music from the series!

Yes, how silly that John Williams fans would support a reissue of one of the composer's greatest and most popular film scores: a comprehensive presentation that features even greater sound, improved editing, previously unreleased (film version) cues, and a remastered original album presentation.
 
Those of us who don't plan to purchase it - for whatever reason - support it's creation and availability. (At least most of us do.)

@Jaywas right, those Journey to the Island transitions are really good in the film version

Listening now. I chocked up a bit hearing Journey to the Island (Film Version). Also, this sounds better than the score as it was included in the 2016 box set. Definitive release for Jurassic Park.
 
Again, if The Lost World gets reissued, I’ll be pleasantly surprised, as I really don’t know how that can possibly be improved upon. Glad I have this and The Lost World.

The forums are full of amazing information in between all the silly banter   JP aficionados @GoodMusician and @scallenger get well-deserved special thanks for posting so much detailed information here about the uniqueness of some film versions that saved us a lot of time since we were beginning with so much information already in front of us.
 
 
Don't blame me - my name wasn't in the special thanks in the version I proofread!

Oh man the skeleton on the spine is so great!
 
I never fail to get a new joy out of seeing my name on one of these.  And hey, my name's on this one twice!
 
 
 
Jim Titus - seriously! - just keeps getting better and better!

Mine arrived today! Kinda surprised since it was the post office. I’ll start listening to it later tonight since I don’t own a CD player anymore and I’ll have to listen to it in my car. Packaging is very pretty 😍
 
Edit: rotated the pictures so it’s easier for you to look at, don’t know why I didn’t do that to begin with🤣
 
 
 
 
 

I think everyone on this forum does. It’s a great score.

I’d love for all those tracks to be released. 
 
one version was on the original IOA album, then the reprinted album replaced it with a version not using JW’s themes and there’s a whole other version too. I recorded all that too hah

The 2016 box set was only in print for 18 months before it completely sold out.
 
There are lots of fans of John Williams' music on this planet who do not own it and would love to own a legal complete edition of this score.
 
This 2022 edition is not being marketed as an essential new expansion for everyone who bought the original to please upgrade. It's being marketed as a reissue.

Nobody is forcing anybody to buy it and nobody is taking the old editions away from you.
 
 
In my opinion every John Williams title LLL ever released that later sold out should be reissued, either by them or another label, so fans of the maestro will always be able to legally buy all his music.

I mean, if Mike was able to include an orchestral-only version of The Hunt, plus the album version, we could phase out a clean version of just the percussion
 
Still a pipe dream of course, sadly I doubt Williams would approve it unless they justified a reissue on including something new (or new tracks were required to get around the AFM limit).

How is 5000 (minus double dippers) new people getting access to this score a ripoff? You bet, how about you listen and check? No need to be a willingly ignorant ass.

I think I’d recorded all this probably by 2009 at the latest so we def had it earlier than that! LoL
 
The mixing of the music is hard to comment too much on cause technically I had to record the whole thing twice: once right channel, once for left. And then sync and mix them… there are for sure some alternate takes uses in the River Adventure exit store though… 
 
I do agree the mix feels different but I also feel the same way when I get use to hearing real channel rips and feeling like somethings off when we get the music officially released heh so it could just be that
 
I’d love the iso percussion but I’m not sure if he’d ever approve it. It makes me think of “Anderton Runs” where Williams scored with a lot of percussion and synth that could be used or unused in the mix (as evident by three mixes of the same cue). 
 
I wouldn’t mind a full perc mix version of “The Hunt” so I can retire mine heh

I’m not at home so I don’t have the information directly in front of me for time codes but based on what I have I can give some guidance.
 
-“[3m2A] Entrance to the Park” the end of this cue on the 2013 release has a ‘clean’ (no chair creek) ending. I don’t mind because it’s what they used for the film edit ending of the cue “[10m3] Eggs in the Forest”
 
-“[9m3-10mA] A Tree for my Bed” this has a slightly different performance in the opening and the ending if I recall
 
-“[10m2] My Friend the Brachiosaurus” has an alternate take near the middle part when the tempo perks up. The ending especially is performed faster.
 
-“[11m2] Preparing to Meet the Monster” I don’t quite recall the difference but I THINK it’s the cue up until the percussive chase moment.
 
-“[11m3-12m1] High Wire Stunts” this has some slight performance differences but the biggest to ear is the final carnivore motif at the end being faster. Possibly because the next cue technically would come in VERY soon after and the album version is more relaxed and doesn’t quite get out of the way in time when synced to the scene.
 
-“[14m2] End Credits (part 1)” If I recall the big difference was in the horn to piano pass off where they aren’t quite in step with eachother.
 
-“[14m2] End Credits (part 2)” again I think the big difference were some edit points and the final part with the carnivore motif (the quieter moments)
 
I can get more specifics later but these are the major changes on the 2013 set
 
I’m really excited for this set! It perfects and finalizes this for me and I can’t wait to explore it again!

I’m not at home so I don’t have the information directly in front of me for time codes but based on what I have I can give some guidance.
 
-“[3m2A] Entrance to the Park” the end of this cue on the 2013 release has a ‘clean’ (no chair creek) ending. I don’t mind because it’s what they used for the film edit ending of the cue “[10m3] Eggs in the Forest”
 
-“[9m3-10mA] A Tree for my Bed” this has a slightly different performance in the opening and the ending if I recall
 
-“[10m2] My Friend the Brachiosaurus” has an alternate take near the middle part when the tempo perks up. The ending especially is performed faster.
 
-“[11m2] Preparing to Meet the Monster” I don’t quite recall the difference but I THINK it’s the cue up until the percussive chase moment.
 
-“[11m3-12m1] High Wire Stunts” this has some slight performance differences but the biggest to ear is the final carnivore motif at the end being faster. Possibly because the next cue technically would come in VERY soon after and the album version is more relaxed and doesn’t quite get out of the way in time when synced to the scene.
 
-“[14m2] End Credits (part 1)” If I recall the big difference was in the horn to piano pass off where they aren’t quite in step with eachother.
 
-“[14m2] End Credits (part 2)” again I think the big difference were some edit points and the final part with the carnivore motif (the quieter moments)
 
I can get more specifics later but these are the major changes on the 2013 set
 
I’m really excited for this set! It perfects and finalizes this for me and I can’t wait to explore it again!

Universal Orlando’s Islands Of Adventure Jurassic Park island plays the iso percussion from “The Hunt.” The unused track for when ingen shows up to catch the dinos
 
Its incomplete but it played in the Discovery Center outdoor area. I recorded it lol
 
its at 2:56-5:49 in that video.
 
Islands of adventure was in final development just after the lost world came out. A lot of the props and vehicles were sent to Universal Orlando to be put on display and remain there to this day (if they haven’t been thrown out…)
 
The Jurassic Park island has some zones of music written specifically for it but is otherwise mostly music from “The Lost World.”
 
Even the “theme from Jurassic Park” that plays at the entrances to the island is the version recorded for The Lost World.

Universal Orlando’s Islands Of Adventure Jurassic Park island plays the iso percussion from “The Hunt.” The unused track for when ingen shows up to catch the dinos
 
Its incomplete but it played in the Discovery Center outdoor area. I recorded it lol
 
its at 2:56-5:49 in that video.
 
Islands of adventure was in final development just after the lost world came out. A lot of the props and vehicles were sent to Universal Orlando to be put on display and remain there to this day (if they haven’t been thrown out…)
 
The Jurassic Park island has some zones of music written specifically for it but is otherwise mostly music from “The Lost World.”
 
Even the “theme from Jurassic Park” that plays at the entrances to the island is the version recorded for The Lost World.

Universal Orlando’s Islands Of Adventure Jurassic Park island plays the iso percussion from “The Hunt.” The unused track for when ingen shows up to catch the dinos
 
Its incomplete but it played in the Discovery Center outdoor area. I recorded it lol
 
its at 2:56-5:49 in that video.
 
Islands of adventure was in final development just after the lost world came out. A lot of the props and vehicles were sent to Universal Orlando to be put on display and remain there to this day (if they haven’t been thrown out…)
 
The Jurassic Park island has some zones of music written specifically for it but is otherwise mostly music from “The Lost World.”
 
Even the “theme from Jurassic Park” that plays at the entrances to the island is the version recorded for The Lost World.

I’m not at home so I don’t have the information directly in front of me for time codes but based on what I have I can give some guidance.
 
-“[3m2A] Entrance to the Park” the end of this cue on the 2013 release has a ‘clean’ (no chair creek) ending. I don’t mind because it’s what they used for the film edit ending of the cue “[10m3] Eggs in the Forest”
 
-“[9m3-10mA] A Tree for my Bed” this has a slightly different performance in the opening and the ending if I recall
 
-“[10m2] My Friend the Brachiosaurus” has an alternate take near the middle part when the tempo perks up. The ending especially is performed faster.
 
-“[11m2] Preparing to Meet the Monster” I don’t quite recall the difference but I THINK it’s the cue up until the percussive chase moment.
 
-“[11m3-12m1] High Wire Stunts” this has some slight performance differences but the biggest to ear is the final carnivore motif at the end being faster. Possibly because the next cue technically would come in VERY soon after and the album version is more relaxed and doesn’t quite get out of the way in time when synced to the scene.
 
-“[14m2] End Credits (part 1)” If I recall the big difference was in the horn to piano pass off where they aren’t quite in step with eachother.
 
-“[14m2] End Credits (part 2)” again I think the big difference were some edit points and the final part with the carnivore motif (the quieter moments)
 
I can get more specifics later but these are the major changes on the 2013 set
 
I’m really excited for this set! It perfects and finalizes this for me and I can’t wait to explore it again!