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    eitam reacted to Docteur Qui in The Rise of Skywalker - COMPLETE SCORE Discussion - SPOILERS ALLOWED!   
    Now I’m onto Reunion, and if those new renditions of the Main theme, Force theme, Poe’s theme and Rey’s theme don’t give you chills then you have no heart. Yeah it’s one theme after another (in between a direct lift of Yoda’s theme, and potentially a new arrangement of Brother and Sister, though I can’t be sure) but it’s Williams gold.
     
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    eitam reacted to Docteur Qui in The Rise of Skywalker - COMPLETE SCORE Discussion - SPOILERS ALLOWED!   
    Ugh I can’t get over how much I love “The Force is With You”. The stunning rendition of Rey’s chimes theme followed by the subdued moment of sheer bliss as Rey looks into the stars and hears the Jedi calling to her. It’s fucking sublime and heartbreaking.

    Emperor’s theme doing its thing for a bit and then........
     
     
    And then possibly my favourite ever rendition of the Force theme ever rising and rising to an incredible climax - the whole melody by the way, not just the first part.
     
    Then a gorgeous statement of the Rise of Skywalker/whatever we’re calling it theme. A great hit of the rebel fanfare.
     
    we don’t deserve this
     
     
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    eitam reacted to Marian Schedenig in What’s next for JW?   
    Vienna.
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    eitam reacted to Andy in The Rise of Skywalker - COMPLETE SCORE Discussion - SPOILERS ALLOWED!   
    For me, part of it was that the "Star Wars" Theme or "Luke's Theme" if you prefer, was held back so much from the Prequels.  It was almost off limits.  TFA teased its return in small heroic or emotional moments, but we haven't had it played with such unashamed bravado on screen in the past 42 years.  Sometimes it's nice to get exactly what you wanted musically and cinematically.
     
    For me, at least.
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    eitam reacted to Thor in John Williams cameo in The Rise of Skywalker   
    Ah, yes. How awesome wouldn't it have been if Rey sat at the bar and had a therapeutic chat with the bartender? Would have loved to see that.
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    eitam reacted to Docteur Qui in The Rise of Skywalker OST Album Discussion   
    To me it’s the most memorable part of the theme. I should be happy that he closed both TFA and TLJ with gorgeous string statements of it, but I really would’ve loved another cracking statement of it. However I was so pleasantly surprised at how much the other sections of the theme are treated in TROS that I can’t really complain. 
     
    I was really moved by the beautiful piano statement of the intro chords in one very important part of the film. What an absolute treat.
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    eitam got a reaction from Docteur Qui in The Rise of Skywalker OST Album Discussion   
    You're correct, I forgot that one. Still, it's a shame JW didn't find another use for it in the score itself (that I recall).
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    eitam got a reaction from Docteur Qui in The Rise of Skywalker OST Album Discussion   
    YES. I completely agree. That last part of Rey's Theme was the most instantly memorable and beautiful moment of TFA musically for me (in The Scavenger, The Abduction, Farewell and The Trip), and one of my biggest regrets is that we never got to hear it again in the last two movies (except in the end credits of TRoS).
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    eitam reacted to Docteur Qui in The Rise of Skywalker OST Album Discussion   
    I love that Williams has given the bell intro part of Rey’s theme so much development in TROS. But he seems to have forgotten about the adventurous tail end of the theme (my favourite part of it). I was hoping for some great variations in the vein of “The Abduction of Rey” from a TFA. In don’t recall hearing much of it at all in TROS.
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    eitam reacted to igger6 in The Rise of Skywalker - For Your Consideration (FYC) Album Discussion   
    Oh man, this has to be the highest percentage of awesome cues left off the OST in Star Wars history...and I'm only two tracks in!  When he was assembling the album, Williams probably
     
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    eitam reacted to Tydirium in The Rise of Skywalker OST Album Discussion   
    Does anyone else think the French horn theme from the opening of "Journey to Exegol" (0:08) is criminally underutilized/underdeveloped? It shows up basically that one time, and while the orchestral texture continues for another 30 seconds or so, it would have been great for the theme itself to get more of a workout, maybe with a bit of a B section. But man, what I wouldn't give for a concert arrangement of that theme... Easily one of the highlights, for me at least.
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    eitam reacted to Fabulin in The Rise of Skywalker - COMPLETE SCORE Discussion - SPOILERS ALLOWED!   
    1. Don't remember. It could have even been silent, like a lot of the duel before it. Or maybe it was the Force theme? Definitely not Han and The Princess  
    2. Yes, as I mentioned, especially a beautiful woodwind version for Rey.
    4. Luke and Leia is just a symbol of love and friendship, and Yoda's Theme --- joy.
     
    Some of the theme uses that were weird on the context-less OST, make more sense once you see the film and hear how they fit emotionally.
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    eitam got a reaction from Smaug The Iron in The Rise of Skywalker - COMPLETE SCORE Discussion - SPOILERS ALLOWED!   
    1. I have trouble remembering too, but isn't that where Advice plays?
    3. If we're talking about the Reunion track, Yoda's Theme (which appears without the "bridge" in the movie I think) and Luke & Leia have no particular relevance to the scenes they underscore, as someone else mentioned earlier, I guess Williams just wanted a little medley. And it works better than I feared in the movie.
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    eitam reacted to Fabulin in The Rise of Skywalker - COMPLETE SCORE Discussion - SPOILERS ALLOWED!   
    The main title music in the "Avengers Assemble" scene surprisingly worked.
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    eitam reacted to Jay in The Rise of Skywalker - For Your Consideration (FYC) Album Discussion   
    Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker - For Your Consideration (FYC) Album
     
    01 Prologue (1:45)
    02 Falcon Flight (2:22)
    03 We Go Together (2:10)
    04 In the Desert (2:26)
    05 A Prisoner (1:23)
    06 To Kimiji (1:37)
    07 Fleeing from Kimiji (1:53)
    08 Hallway Shooting (2:11)
    09 Hard to Get Rid Of (2:19)
    10 Join Me (2:21)
    11 The Old Death Star (2:14)
    12 Off the Waterfront (1:03)
    13 Final Saber Duel (1:38)
    14 Healing Wounds (2:49)
    15 Advice (1:54)
    16 Battle of the Resistance (1:54)
    17 Approaching the Throne (4:16)
    18 Parents (1:57)
    19 Coming Together (1:44)
    20 Seeing Sights (3:17)
    21 Rescue (1:10)
    22 Farewell (4:27)
    23 A New Home (1:42)

    TOTAL TIME - 50:32
     
     
    F.A.Q.:
     
    FYC? What's that stand for?

    For Your Consideration.  Basically, Disney setup a website where eligible voters for the various awards that are given out around the end of the year could learn where they could attend a screening of their films, see which awards the films were pushing for, and listen to selections of the score for Best Score nominations.  For the films that had score selections, they are exactly what is heard in the film, and sometimes include music not on the commercial soundtrack albums!
     
    So the music here is different than the album?

    Yes!  Some tracks are almost the same, but the structure of the FYC program is fundamentally different; It is a selection of music from the movie exactly as it appears in the final cut of the film, even if the music used in the film was edited from Williams' original intentions.  This could mean that a track might contain an Insert Williams later wrote, where the OST presented his original version; or a track might contain less music than its OST counterpart of the scene was re-edited after the recording of the music, or even a track might contain some music artificially looped or stretched if a scene got lengthened after scoring.  The FYC always reflects these non-intended conforms to final picture from start to finish.
     
    So does the FYC contain the complete score?

    Certainly not.  The FYC is only 50 minutes long.
     
    Which tracks contain music that is not on the OST album?
     
    We won't know that until the OST album is available to hear.
     
    Where can I find this FYC?
     
    https://disneystudiosawards.com/star-wars-score.html
    https://disneystudiosawards.com/star-wars-rise-of-skywalker/score
     
    In case Disney later removes this page, it is archived permanently here:
     
    https://web.archive.org/web/20191210202934/https://disneystudiosawards.com/star-wars-score.html
     
    I don't see a download link there; How do I download the files from Disney's site?
     
     
     
     
    In case Disney ever takes the files down, they are archived permanently here:
     
     
     
    The files on Disney's site have really low bitrate of 192kbps; Is there any chance its available uncompressed somewhere?
     
    Disney should be mailing out pressed physical CDs with the FYC program to Academy music department voters sometime soon.  Usually not long after that, they begin turning up on ebay, and not long after that, lossless rips appear online.  NOTE: It is against the board's rules to ask for a lossless rip in the public forum.  Use the PM System or go to other websites for that discussion!  Posts asking for illegal downloads will be deleted!
     
     
     
    Alright, so what's on the FYC album that is not on the OST album?
     
    01 Prologue (1:45)
    [0:00-0:07] (0:07) = alternate mix of OST 02 Journey to Exegol [0:47-0:50] [0:07-0:26] (0:19) = OST 02 Journey to Exegol [1:02-1:20] [0:26-0:28] (0:02) = OST 02 Journey to Exegol [1:24-1:25] [0:28-0:36] (0:08) = OST 02 Journey to Exegol [1:31-1:40] [0:36-0:56] (0:20) = OST 02 Journey to Exegol [2:13-2:33] [0:56-1:28] (0:32)  = NOT ON OST (Tracked music, an alternate for Rey arriving at Exegol late in the film) [1:28-1:37] (0:09) = tracked music from OST 01 Fanfare and Prologue [1:44-1:52] [1:37-end] (0:07) = NOT ON OST (Tracked music from Hard To Get Rid Of 1:58-2:01) 02 Falcon Flight (2:22)
    [all] = NOT ON OST 03 We Go Together (2:10)
    [all] = OST 09 We Go Together [0:00-2:33], with minor edits, but a proper clean ending 04 In the Desert (2:26)
    [all] = NOT ON OST 05 A Prisoner (1:23)
    [all] = NOT ON OST 06 To Kimiji (1:37)
    [all] = NOT ON OST 07 Fleeing from Kimiji (1:53)
    [0:00-1:35] (1:35) = OST 08 Fleeing From Kijimi [0:00-1:33], with minor edits [1:35-end] (0:18) = NOT ON OST (Full clean ending of the cue) 08 Hallway Shooting (2:11)
    [all] = NOT ON OST 09 Hard to Get Rid Of (2:19)
    [all] = NOT ON OST 10 Join Me (2:21)
    [0:00-1:48] (1:48) = OST 10 Join Me [0:00-2:05], shortened in numerous places [1:48-2:03] (0:15) = tracked music from The Battle of the Resistance [2:03-end] (0:18) = OST 10 Join Me [3:17-end] 11 The Old Death Star (2:14)
    [0:00-1:14] (1:14) = OST 04 The Old Death Star [0:00-1:19], with minor edits [1:14-end] (1:00) = NOT ON OST, either tracked in from something or a replacement insert for what's on the OST from 1:19-2:21 12 Off the Waterfront (1:03)
    [all] = OST 04 The Old Death Star [2:21-end] 13 Final Saber Duel (1:38)
    [0:00-1:10] (1:10) = OST 12 The Final Saber Duel [0:00-1:05], with minor edits [1:10-end] (0:27)  = NOT ON OST (The proper full ending to the cue) 14 Healing Wounds (2:49)
    [0:00-0:31] = NOT ON OST, definitely a replacement insert for what's on the OST from 1:05-1:42 [0:31-end] = OST 12 The Final Saber Duel [1:42-end] 15 Advice (1:54)
    [all] = NOT ON OST 16 Battle of the Resistance (1:54)
    [0:00-0:02] (0:02) = OST 13 Battle of the Resistance [0:04-0:08], shortened [0:02-end] (1:52) = OST 13 Battle of the Resistance [1:12-end], with minor edits 17 Approaching the Throne (4:16)
    [all] = OST 14 Approaching The Throne, with minor differences (including a pitch-shifted opening and a different ending [a different choral performance with less orchestra under it]) 18 Parents (1:57)
    [all] = NOT ON OST 19 Coming Together (1:44)
    [all] = NOT ON OST 20 Seeing Sights (3:17)
    [all] = OST 15 The Force Is With You [0:00-3:02], with minor difference (including a clean ending) 21 Rescue (1:10)
    [0:00-0:15] (0:15) = OST 15 The Force Is With You [3:02-3:16] [0:15-0:30] (0:15) = NOT ON OST (A nice section he chose to microedit out of the OST program) [0:30-end] (0:40) = OST 15 The Force Is With You [3:16-end] 22 Farewell (4:27)
    [all] = OST 16 Farewell [0:48-end], with minor edits 23 A New Home (1:42)
    [all] = OST 18 A New Home  
    If I'm adding that up right, that's 21:10 of unreleased music!
     
     
     
     
    Great!  Now what if I want to combine both albums together into a long expanded album?
     
    Here is a quick and dirty playlist to get the most total music possible, without using a WAV editor, just combining tracks from both into a playlist
     
    OST 01 Fanfare and Prologue 4:34 OST 02 Journey to Exegol 2:49 FYC 02 Falcon Flight 2:22 OST 09 We Go Together 3:17 OST 05 The Speeder Chase 3:21 FYC 04 In the Desert 2:26 FYC 05 A Prisoner 1:23 FYC 06 To Kimiji 1:37 OST 08 Fleeing from Kijimi 2:51 FYC 08 Hallway Shooting 2:11 FYC 09 Hard to Get Rid Of 2:19 OST 10 Join Me 3:42 OST 04 The Old Death Star 3:16 OST 12 The Final Saber Duel 3:57 FYC 15 Advice 1:54 OST 06 Destiny of a Jedi 5:12 OST 11 They Will Come 2:50 OST 13 Battle of the Resistance 2:51 OST 14 Approaching the Throne 4:16 FYC 18 Parents 1:57 FYC 19 Coming Together 1:44 OST 15 The Force Is with You 3:59 OST 16 Farewell 5:14 OST 17 Reunion 4:04 OST 18 A New Home 1:47 OST 19 Finale 10:51
    SCORE TIME - 1:26:44
    BONUS TRACKS OST 07 Anthem of Evil 3:23 OST 03 The Rise of Skywalker 4:18
    BONUS TRACK TIME - 7:41  
    GRAND TOTAL TIME - 1:34:25
     
     
    Here is a more detailed editing guide, which you have to use sound editing software to make.  
     
    THE FILM SCORE
    OST 01 Fanfare and Prologue 4:34 OST 02 Journey to Exegol 2:49 FYC 02 Falcon Flight 2:22 OST 09A We Go Together [0:00-2:33], with the clean ending from FYC 03 We Go Together 2:10 OST 09B Arrival at Pasaana [2:33-end] OST 05 The Speeder Chase 3:21 FYC 04 In the Desert 2:26 FYC 05 A Prisoner 1:23 FYC 06 To Kimiji 1:37 OST 08A Fleeing from Kijimi [0:00-1:33], with the clean ending from FYC 07 Fleeing from Kimiji 1:53 FYC 08 Hallway Shooting 2:11 FYC 09 Hard to Get Rid Of 2:19 OST 08B I'm The Spy [1:33-end] 1:19 OST 10 Join Me 3:42 OST 4A The Old Death Star [0:00-1:19], seguing into the revised version of the rest of the cue heard in FYC 11 [1:14-end] FYC 12 Off The Waterfront 1:03 (If you are feeling up to it, you can attempt to segue from the FYC's clean opening into OST 4B [2:21-end] instead) OST 12A The Final Saber Duel [0:00-1:05], with the full complete ending from FYC 13 Final Saber Duel 1:38 FYC 14 Healing Wounds 2:49 [0:00-0:31] seguing into the rest of the cue from OST 12B [1:42-end] FYC 15 Advice 1:54 OST 06 Destiny of a Jedi 5:12 OST 11 They Will Come 2:50 FYC 01 [0:56-1:28] Rey Arrives at Exegol OST 13 Battle of the Resistance 2:51 OST 14 Approaching The Throne 4:16 (FYC 17 features a slightly different choral ending if you prefer that) FYC 18 Parents 1:57 FYC 19 Coming Together 1:44 OST 15A [0:00-3:02] Seeing Sights, with the full clean ending from FYC 20 Seeing Sights 3:17 FYC 21 Rescue 1:10 (If you are feeling up to it, you can attempt to segue from the FYC's clean opening into OST 15B [3:02-end] instead, but you also have to restore the 15 seconds microedited out of the OST version at 3:16) OST 16 Farewell 4:27 OST 17 Reunion 4:04 OST 18 A New Home 1:47 OST 19 Finale 10:51
    Alternates: OST 04A [0:00-2:21] The Old Death Star (Alternate) (2:21) OST 12B [1:05-end] Healing Wounds (Alternate) (2:52)
    Concert Arrangements: OST 07 Anthem of Evil 3:23 OST 03 The Rise of Skywalker 4:18  
     
    And finally here is a Google Doc with all this information, if you prefer to look at it that way:
     
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VWApmUMfiSF9gvXb3LW9QloZO-St-ITFMF-qYaNN0fw
     
     
     
    Additionally, here's a theme list I started before the OST came out, that may be a bit outdated now, but hopefully I can keep it updated at some point.
     
     
     
    01 Prologue (1:45)
    0:08 Kylo Ren's Theme 0:43 Wayfinder Theme 0:48 Kylo Ren's Theme 0:57 Anthem of Evil 1:17 Rey's Theme 02 Falcon Flight (2:22)
    0:20 The Emperor's Theme 0:31 March of the Resistance 0:48 March of the Resistance 0:57 The Rebel Fanfare 1:13 We Go Together 1:30 March of the Resistance 1:47 Hyperspace from TESB moment 1:53 Heroics 2:05 The Rebel Fanfare 2:09 The Death Star is about to blow up from ANH moment 03 We Go Together (2:10)
    0:14 We Go Together 1:07 Rey's Theme 1:21 The Force Theme 1:45 We Go Together 04 In the Desert (2:26)
    0:24 March of the Resistance 05 A Prisoner (1:23)
    1:01 We Go Together 06 To Kimiji (1:37)
    0:17 We Go Together 0:31 We Go Together 0:40 The Knights of Ren Theme 1:12 Rey's Theme 07 Fleeing from Kimiji (1:53)
    0:00 Heroics 0:23 Kylo Ren's Theme 0:34 Kylo Ren's Theme 1:17 We Go Together 08 Hallway Shooting (2:11)
    1:22 March of the Resistance 09 Hard to Get Rid Of (2:19)
    1:29 The Emperor's Theme 10 Join Me (2:21)
    0:57 Anthem of Evil 1:16 Kylo Ren's Theme 1:28 Rey's Theme (dark again) 1:53 Luke's Theme 2:07 Rey's Theme 11 The Old Death Star (2:14)
    0:58 The Imperial March 1:46 Poe's Theme 1:57 March of the Resistance 12 Off the Waterfront (1:03)
      13 Final Saber Duel (1:38)
    0:43 Kylo Ren's Theme 14 Healing Wounds (2:49)
    0:40 The Force Theme 1:47 Leia's Theme 15 Advice (1:54)
    1:18 sounds kinda like Rey's Theme? 16 Battle of the Resistance (1:54)
    0:09 Luke's Theme 0:38 The Force Theme 1:19 The Force Theme 17 Approaching the Throne (4:16)
    1:22 Rey's Theme (the dark variant again) 2:07 Wayfinder Theme 3:18 Victory Theme 3:33 March of the Resistance 18 Parents (1:57)
    1:19 Kylo Ren's Theme 1:33 Kylo Ren's Theme 19 Coming Together (1:44)
    0:00 The Emperor's Theme 0:11 Kylo Ren's Theme 0:22 Knights of Ren Theme 1:18 The Force Theme 20 Seeing Sights (3:17)
    0:24 We Go Together 0:42 Rey's Theme (on piano!) 1:44 Rey's Theme 1:57 Kylo Ren's Theme 2:20 The Emperor's Theme (with bad-ass choir!) 2:49 The Force Theme 21 Rescue (1:10)
    0:02 Victory Theme 0:39 The Rebel Fanfare 0:47 The Rebel Fanfare 22 Farewell (4:27)
    0:13 Kylo Ren's Theme 0:48 sounds like a sad variation of Rey's Theme 1:27 sounds like a defeated version of Kylo Ren's Theme 1:44 Rey's Theme 2:35 sounds like... something? 3:32 Victory Theme 23 A New Home (1:42)
    0:19 Rey's Theme  
    Big thanks to @thx99 for first posting the link here.  Head over there and give him a big LIKE, will ya?
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    eitam got a reaction from crlbrg in The Rise of Skywalker - COMPLETE SCORE Discussion - SPOILERS ALLOWED!   
    Yes, that very short snippet when the Knights are standing on top of a peak in the desert on Passana was one of the coolest moments of the score. 
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    eitam reacted to Jost1 in The Rise of Skywalker - COMPLETE SCORE Discussion - SPOILERS ALLOWED!   
    Hell yeah the rythmic motif (I think it was a motif?) for the Knights of Ren was really awesome. Made them seem really threatening.
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    eitam got a reaction from _deleted_ in The Rise of Skywalker - COMPLETE SCORE Discussion - SPOILERS ALLOWED!   
    Yes, that very short snippet when the Knights are standing on top of a peak in the desert on Passana was one of the coolest moments of the score. 
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    eitam got a reaction from Jon Turner in The Rise of Skywalker SPOILERS ALLOWED discussion thread   
    I enjoyed the movie just fine, despite the ridiculous moments ("You're Palpatine's granddaughter!" "Empress Palpatine!") and the occasionally cringy fan-service. Best things are the trio's interactions and the Rey/Kylo bond.
     
     
    ^ Indeed.
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    eitam got a reaction from Tydirium in John Williams cameo in The Rise of Skywalker   
    What the...? Is this for real? 
    If so, it's great! And the kind of thing I would want to know beforehand to be sure not to miss it ! 
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    eitam got a reaction from Fabulin in John Williams cameo in The Rise of Skywalker   
    What the...? Is this for real? 
    If so, it's great! And the kind of thing I would want to know beforehand to be sure not to miss it ! 
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    eitam got a reaction from Luka in The Rise of Skywalker OST Album Discussion   
    While i'm stuck at work and can't track down the music, this thread is the next best thing !! 
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    eitam got a reaction from Disco Stu in Ludwig Göransson & Joseph Shirley's THE MANDALORIAN (2019-present)   
    It reminds me a little of Bach's toccata and fugue in D minor.
     
     
     
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    eitam reacted to thx99 in 2019 FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION studio sites (featuring music)   
    Okay, here you go!!
     
    NEW SCORE AVAILABLE
     
    Walt Disney
    Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker (John Williams) [23 cues, 50:44]
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    eitam got a reaction from St0rMl0rD in John Williams & the Vienna Philharmonic: January 18/19 2020   
    Looks like the program is somewhat changed:
     
    Olympic Fanfare and Theme
    Excerpts from Close Encounters of the Third Kind
    Flight to Neverland
    Rey's Theme
    Donnybrook Fair
    Remembrances
    Hedwig's Theme
    Adventures on Earth
    --- Intermission ---
    Theme from Jurassic Park
    Dartmoor, 1912
    Out to Sea / Shark Cage Fugue
    Marion's Theme
    The Rebellion Is Reborn
    Luke & Leia
    Star Wars Main Theme
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