The Rise of Skywalker The Rise of Skywalker - COMPLETE SCORE Discussion - SPOILERS ALLOWED!

[Jay 30918]

So by my calculations, there's almost 45 minutes of unreleased music heard in the final film, though it's still unclear how much of that is old recordings tracked in...

 

(Apologies to mobile phone users, this chart only looks right on a desktop or tablet.... if you are on mobile, turning your phone sideways helps somewhat)

 

#	Title	Length		On FYC?	Length		On OST?	Length		Unreleased
1	Main Title	1:26					01A [0:00-1:26] Fanfare and Prologue	1:26
2	Prologue 1	0:12					tracked in from TFA's "Starry Night"
		0:38		01A [0:00-0:36] Prologue	0:36		02B [1:02-1:40] Journey to Exegol	0:38
		0:20		01A [0:36-0:56] Prologue	0:20		02D [2:13-2:33] Journey to Exegol	0:20
		0:32		01B [0:56-1:28] Prologue	0:32
		0:10		01C [1:28-1:37] Prologue	0:09		01C [1:45-1:52] Fanfare and Prologue	0:07
		0:08		01D [1:37-end] Prologue	0:08
3	Prologue 2	0:13								0:13
		0:06					01E [2:52-2:58] Fanfare and Prologue	0:06
		0:34								0:34
4	Prologue 3	0:06								0:06
		0:17					02C [1:56-2:13] Journey to Exegol	0:17
		0:53								0:53
5	Falcon Flight	2:22		02 Falcon Flight	2:22
6	The Training Course	2:10								2:10
7	Rey and Leia	0:49								0:49
8	Intel	1:58								1:58
9	We Go Together	2:33		03 We Go Together	2:10		09A [0:00-2:33] We Go Together	2:33
10	Helmet	1:17								1:17
11	Scavenger Hunt	0:09								0:09
12	Arrival on Pasaana	0:44					09B [2:33-end] We Go Together	0:44
	SOURCE MUSIC	1:05
13	Rey and Nyambee	1:01								1:01
14	It's Ren	1:39								1:39
15	Wayfinder	0:56								0:56
16	The Speeder Chase	2:39					OST 05 The Speeder Chase is unused			2:39
17	Underground	0:32								0:32
18	Sith Dagger	1:16								1:16
19	Snake	0:19								0:19
20	Healing The Snake	1:19								1:19
21	The Knights of Ren	0:21								0:21
22	In The Desert	2:26		04 In the Desert	2:26
23	Transporter	1:04								1:04
24	We Gotta Go	0:24								0:24
25	A Prisoner	1:23		05 A Prisoner	1:23
26	To Kijimi	1:37		06 To Kimiji	1:37
27	Zorii Bliss	0:48								0:48
28	I Care	1:04								1:04
	SOURCE MUSIC	0:49
29	My Friends	0:49								0:49
30	Report	0:18								0:18
31	Nobody Came	1:01								1:01
32	Incoming Destroyer	1:36								1:36
33	Fleeing from Kijimi	1:53		07 Fleeing from Kimiji	1:53		08A [0:00-1:33] Fleeing from Kijimi	1:33
34	Hallway Shooting	2:11		08 Hallway Shooting	2:11
35	Ren's Quarters	0:44								0:44
36	Hard to Get Rid Of	2:19		09 Hard to Get Rid Of	2:19
37	Lock Down The Ship	0:06								0:06
38	I'm The Spy	1:27					08C [1:33-end] Fleeing from Kijimi	1:18		0:20
39	Join Me	3:42		10 Join Me	2:21		10 Join Me	3:42
40	We Found Our Spy	0:21								0:21
41	I Know You	1:02								1:02
42	The Old Death Star	2:14		11 The Old Death Star	2:14		04A [0:00-1:22] The Old Death Star	1:22
43	Finn and Jannah	0:49					Could be partially "Finn's Confession" from TFA tracked in			0:49
44	Off The Waterfront	1:03		12 Off the Waterfront	1:03		04C [2:21-end] The Old Death Star	0:55
45	Another Skimmer	0:31								0:31
46	Rey Explores	1:11					"Darth Vader's Death" from ROTJ partially tracked in			1:11
47	Light Saber Duel	0:30								0:30
48	Saber Duel Continues	1:18								1:18
49	Final Saber Duel	1:38		13 Final Saber Duel	1:38		12A [0:00-1:05] The Final Saber Duel	1:05
50	Healing Wounds	2:54		14 Healing Wounds	2:49		12C [1:42-end] The Final Saber Duel	2:15
51	Advice	1:54		15 Advice	1:54
52	The Destruction of Kijimi	1:23								1:23
53	Poe and Leia	2:07								2:07
54	Destiny of a Jedi	5:12					06 Destiny of a Jedi	5:12
55	Luke's X-WIng	1:18								1:18
56	They Will Come	1:29					11B [0:57-end] They Will Come	1:54
57	Arrival at Exegol	1:18					This seems to actually be the intended placement of Journey To Exegol ???			1:18
58	Rey To Throne Room	0:40								0:40
59	Battle of the Resistance	1:54		16 Battle of the Resistance	1:54		13B [1:12-end] Battle of the Resistance	1:39
60	Approaching The Throne	4:16		17 Approaching the Throne	4:16		14 Approaching the Throne	4:16
61	Parents	1:57		18 Parents	1:57
62	Coming Together	1:44		19 Coming Together	1:44
63	Rey & Ren Team Up	1:00								1:00
64	The One True Emperor	0:19								0:19
65	Too Many of Them	0:30								0:30
66	Lando Arrives	1:24								1:24
67	The Return of the Sith	0:58								0:58
68	Seeing Sights	3:17		20 Seeing Sights	3:17		15A [0:00-3:02] The Force Is with You	3:02
69	Destruction	0:49					At least partially "Peace and Purpose" from TLJ tracked in			0:28
70	Rescue	1:10		21 Rescue	1:10		15B [3:02-end] The Force Is with You	0:57
71	Rey's Death	0:48					16A [0:00-0:48] Farewell	0:48
72	Farewell	4:27		22 Farewell	4:27		16B [0:48-end] Farewell	4:26
73	Reunion	4:04					17 Reunion	4:04
74	A New Home	1:47		23 A New Home	1:42		18 A New Home	1:47
75	Finale	10:51					19 Finale	10:51
							Total Unreleased Music:			0:43:32

 

 

There's a ton of music on the OST not heard in the film at all... besides little portions snipped out of cues that did make the film, we have:

 

• 01B [1:26-1:45] Fanfare and Prologue    0:00:26 replaced by Starry Night from TFA
• 01D [1:52-2:52] Fanfare and Prologue    0:01:00
• 01F [2:58-end] Fanfare and Prologue    1:16:00
• 02A [0:00-1:02] Journey to Exegol    0:01:02 I think this is actually partially heard as Rey arrives later in the film, hard to hear under sound effects
• 02C [2:33-end] Journey to Exegol    0:00:16
• 05 The Speeder Chase    0:03:21 replaced in final cut with new, much less interesting cue
• 04B [1:19-2:21] The Old Death Star    0:01:01 could be an early version of the trio meeting Jannah's crew?  Or some of that and some of an early version of Finn talking to Jannah?
• 12B [1:05-1:42] The Final Saber Duel    0:00:37 could be an early version of the opening to Healing Wounds?
• 11A [0:00-0:57] They Will Come    0:00:57 could be an early version of the resistance discovering Rey's message coming from Luke's X-Wing?
• 13A [0:00-1:12] Battle of the Resistance    0:01:12 could be deleted final space battle footage?  Or a special album-only opening?

 

 

 

 

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Original main post:

 

 

 

 

 

 

In this thread you can discuss the entire score, as heard in the film itself, the OST, the FYC, or anywhere else, without using spoiler tags.

Of course, in the early days here, you can certain put very spoiler-y things in tags for the time being.

The point of this thread is so those people who want to discuss the OST album without reading anything about the film can stay in that thread, and only come in here after they've seen the film.

@Thor, feel free to copy and paste the paragraph you just posted about the score in the film thread into this thread too

[Pawel P. 639]

So, after the press screening, I can tell you that the score is really, really good, really crushing. This movie really owns it a lot. I haven't heard FYC material, but especailly two new themes are very epic and have a very prominent place in the score. One is majestic, both are super catchy and memorable. An instant classics for me.

 

I have the impression that this is the most aggressive score of the new trilogy, and at the same time the most lyrical and nostalgic. Of course, old themes are back - Force, Vader, Palaptine, Leia, Han Solo and the Pricnes, Yoda, Rey, Resistance. End Credits is a mix of old themes and new ones.

 

I didn't notice Dule of the Fates, but there is a powerful choir that sounds quite similar to it. There are more choirs, at the beginning and especially in the last act of the film. One of them reminded me of Anakin's Betrayal from ROTS.
 
The movie ends, for the fourth time in a row, with Binnary Sunset.

 

In two places, if I remember correctly, Williams almost copied fragments from ROTJ (Darth Vader's death) and ESB (Dagobah). But it sounds spectacular.

 

To sum up, there is a lot going on here. I can't wait to hear it on CD. And of course a few more times at the cinema.
 
Of course, don't take my words for granted. I really like scores from both TFA and TLJ.

[Jay 30918]

Dagobah?  Which cue?

[mrbellamy 5614]

Is the Kylo/Rey lightsaber fight scored thematically? Or just kinda random actiony stuff?

 

Also I take it Force Theme ends the film, right?

[SilverTrumpet 510]

My only two questions are

 

1) Is it a new recording of the main title

 

2) Any needledropping like Rey catching the saber in TFA or most of the second half of the prequel trilogy?

[bollemanneke 2867]

3 minutes ago, Pawel P. said:

So, after the press screening, I can tell you that the score is really, really good, really crushing. This movie really owns it a lot. I haven't heard FYC material, but especailly two new themes are very epic and have a very prominent place in the score. One is majestic, both are super catchy and memorable. An instant classics for me.

 

I have the impression that this is the most aggressive score of the new trilogy, and at the same time the most lyrical and nostalgic. Of course, old themes are back - Force, Vader, Palaptine, Leia, Han Solo and the Pricnes, Yoda, Rey, Resistance. End Credits is a mix of old themes and new ones.

 

I didn't notice Dule of the Fates, but there is a powerful choir that sounds quite similar to it. There are more choirs, at the beginning and especially in the last act of the film. One of them reminded me of Anakin's Betrayal from ROTS.
 
The movie ends, for the fourth time in a row, with Binnary Sunset.

 

In two places, if I remember correctly, Williams almost copied fragments from ROTJ (Darth Vader's death) and ESB (Dagobah). But it sounds spectacular.

 

To sum up, there is a lot going on here. I can't wait to hear it on CD. And of course a few more times at the cinema.
 
Of course, don't take my words for granted. I really like scores from both TFA and TLJ.

Thank you for this! Could you describe the end credits a bit more? What I'm most curious about is, do they end in a way that also celebrates JW's achievement, or is there really nothing unexpected to be heard?

[Pawel P. 639]

6 minutes ago, Jay said:

Dagobah?  Which cue?

 

Yoda pulling the X-wing out of the pool

[Jay 30918]

Oh, so just the Force theme then

[Fargo 260]

Guessing he means this part of that scene, 3:46

 

 

Just a guess though, haven't seen the film. I remember them using that bit for one of the trailers/tv spots for TFA

[Pawel P. 639]

10 minutes ago, bollemanneke said:

Thank you for this! Could you describe the end credits a bit more? What I'm most curious about is, do they end in a way that also celebrates JW's achievement, or is there really nothing unexpected to be heard?

 

End Credits, if I remember correctly, consist of::

- traditional fanfare

- one of the new epic themes,

- Imperial March,

- second of the new epic themes,

- Rey,

- something slower and climatic, also new

- new action theme 

- Rebel Fanfare

- traditional ending from New Hope.

[Edmilson 4472]

12 minutes ago, Pawel P. said:

The movie ends, for the fourth time in a row, with Binnary Sunset.

 

 

So yeah, FYC's A New Home is not the final track of the movie, as many (me included) have suspected.

 

Also, what about the use of choir on the movie? Bigger than on the other ST scores?

[pete 697]

You;re going to get a ton of questions! Another end credits question: Is it a hodgepodge like The Phantom Menace or are the themes woven together into a coherent piece of music ala Empire?

[Pawel P. 639]

4 minutes ago, Jay said:

Oh, so just the Force theme then

No, Yoda

[Jay 30918]

19 minutes ago, Edmilson said:

So yeah, FYC's A New Home is not the final track of the movie, as many (me included) have suspected.

 

It's clear to me that the FYC track "ends" where Binary Sunset would begin, but the Binary Sunset part was removed from the FYC because its an existing arrangement

 

If you listen to the track, you can hear Binary Sunset beginning in your head as the track ends

[DiscmanD131 16]

I'm seeing it in a little under 18 hours. I'll be back with thoughts as well. Excited!

[Jost1 105]

Hi Pawel, is this theme in the score at all?

[Pawel P. 639]

5 minutes ago, Edmilson said:

Also, what about the use of choir on the movie? Bigger than on the other ST scores?

 

Bigger than TFA and TLJ, for sure. Similar to PT, but choirs play a slightly different role here, they are more sinister, more ominous

1 minute ago, RadJ said:

Hi Pawel, is this theme in the score at all?

Hi RadJ, I don't think so

[Jost1 105]

As I suspected, then :-)  Thanks for your quick answer 

[Pawel P. 639]

10 minutes ago, pete said:

You;re going to get a ton of questions! Another end credits question: Is it a hodgepodge like The Phantom Menace or are the themes woven together into a coherent piece of music ala Empire?

Definitely Empire

[Taikomochi 882]

I guess it’s probably hard to tell just from seeing in theater if it’s a properly flowing suite like TFA or an editorial mashing of cues like TLJ.

[Jost1 105]

Just now, Taikomochi said:

I guess it’s probably hard to tell just from seeing in theater if it’s a properly flowing sweet like TFA or an editorial mashing of cues like TLJ.

Honestly TFA is top notch leitmotif writing throughout.  

[Jay 30918]

So was it obvious watching the film what the "Anthem of Evil" theme is?

[Pawel P. 639]

30 minutes ago, mrbellamy said:

Is the Kylo/Rey lightsaber fight scored thematically? Or just kinda random actiony stuff?

 

Also I take it Force Theme ends the film, right?

 

Mostly there is no music - due to loud storm sounds

Yes. 

[Thor 5774]

Well, there are a couple of Kylo/Rey fights in the film, and some of them have music. But nothing stood out in a thematic sense, at least not for me.

 

5 minutes ago, Jay said:

So was it obvious watching the film what the "Anthem of Evil" theme is?

 

I think I know what it refers to, yes.

[Jay 30918]

Here's hoping JW wrote and recorded something for those scenes that JJ nixed, and we'll get it on the OST album (or a future expanded release)

[Pawel P. 639]

7 minutes ago, Jay said:

So was it obvious watching the film what the "Anthem of Evil" theme is?

 

Not necessarily for me. I didn't listen to anything before the screening. In fact, I focused on film as much as on music. This isn't always easy with such intensity of events on the screen.

[Thor 5774]

Since it would be a spoiler element that hasn't been mentioned by others before in this thread, I'll chime in tomorrow with what I think it refers to.

[Holko 8005]

Any source music?

[gkgyver 1643]

7 minutes ago, Jay said:

Here's hoping JW wrote and recorded something for those scenes that JJ nixed, and we'll get it on the OST album (or a future expanded release)

 

[Jay 30918]

I think Disney Records will hire MM to oversee new expanded editions of all 9 films at some point in the future.  They'd be stupid not to

[Demondm810 366]

His comment on the recent podcast that "everyone agrees it should happen" seemed optimistic. 

[Thor 5774]

10 minutes ago, Holko said:

Any source music?

 

Yes, at least two, but none of them are composed by Williams, according to the end credits.

[Bilbo 3612]

13 minutes ago, Holko said:

Any source music?

I can’t wait for the next 20 years of people complaining that something isn’t complete because it’s missing source music! Teh Joy!

[bollemanneke 2867]

Does Rose's theme get some airtime?

[Arpy 4072]

What's worse will be people complaining that the ST scores were unmemorable because there wasn't any epic music from the prequels - missing out on the true wealth of material Williams has written for us.

5 minutes ago, Bilbo said:

I can’t wait for the next 20 years of people complaining that something isn’t complete because it’s missing source music! Teh Joy!

 

[Bellosh 1715]

Is there an official tracklist yet????

[Jay 30918]

No.

[Bilbo 3612]

30 minutes ago, Arpy said:

What's worse will be people complaining that the ST scores were unmemorable because there wasn't any epic music from the prequels - missing out on the true wealth of material Williams has written for us.

 

I’m sure those people will exist too. 

[Edmilson 4472]

54 minutes ago, Jay said:

I think Disney Records will hire MM to oversee new expanded editions of all 9 films at some point in the future.  They'd be stupid not to

 

[Thor 5774]

1 hour ago, bollemanneke said:

Does Rose's theme get some airtime?

 

Well, the character appears (albeit briefly -- she's one of the elements that get swallowed by the rushed sequences), but I could not hear her theme.

[bollemanneke 2867]

4 minutes ago, Thor said:

 

Well, the character appears (albeit briefly -- she's one of the elements that get swallowed by the rushed sequences), but I could not hear her theme.

Nooooooo!

[Jay 30918]

So those that have seen the film, do these new themes sound about right?

 

 

The Trio Theme

• FYC 02 Falcon Flight 1:13
• FYC 03 We Go Together 0:14 / 1:45
• FYC 05 A Prisoner 1:01
• FYC 06 To Kimiji 0:17
• FYC 07 Fleeing from Kimiji 1:17
• FYC 20 Seeing Sights 0:24

 

The Rise of Skywalker Theme

• FYC 17 Approaching the Throne 3:18
• FYC 21 Rescue 0:02
• FYC 22 Farewell 3:32

 

Anthem of Evil

• FYC 01 Prologue 0:57
• FYC 10 Join Me 0:57
• FYC 12 Off The Waterfront 0:04

 

Rising and Falling Motif (What does this represent?)

• FYC 01 Prologue 0:43
• FYC 17 Approaching the Throne 2:07

 

Action Ostinato (Does it represent one certain character?

• FYC 02 Falcon Flight 1:53
• FYC 07 Fleeing from Kimiji 0:00 

[Giftheck 671]

3 hours ago, Pawel P. said:

The movie ends, for the fourth time in a row, with Binnary Sunset.

 

We all expected that to happen, TBH.

[Edmilson 4472]

Actually, TROS will be the fifth time, if you count Rogue One.

[Bespin 6818]

The Imperial March in the End Credits? really?

 

[bollemanneke 2867]

2 hours ago, Edmilson said:

Actually, TROS will be the fifth time, if you count Rogue One.

Let's not do that.

[Ricardo Mortimer 43]

Has anyone seen a movie already" That cute melody around the whole soundtrack (dominates in track The Rise of Skywalker) is written for which character? Thanks

[aviazn 267]

1 hour ago, Ricardo Mortimer said:

Has anyone seen a movie already" That cute melody around the whole soundtrack (dominates in track The Rise of Skywalker) is written for which character? Thanks

Well…it's Rey theme, right? It's like the major key version of Rey's theme, like Anakin's theme is to Darth Vader's…

 

Oh wait, is what you guys are calling the trio theme, isn't that the main melody of Rey's theme? And what we're calling the Rise of Skywalker theme is based on the chimes of Rey's theme?

 

Oh Jesus, I'm just realizing this now… it's all Rey's theme.

[Fabulin 3432]

.

 

 

[Tom 3363]

11 minutes ago, aviazn said:

Well…it's Rey theme, right? It's like the major key version of Rey's theme, like Anakin's theme is to Darth Vader's…

 

Oh wait, is what you guys are calling the trio theme, isn't that the main melody of Rey's theme? And what we're calling the Rise of Skywalker theme is based on the chimes of Rey's theme?

 

Oh Jesus, I'm just realizing this now… it's all Rey's theme.

Remember who composed all this.