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8 minutes ago, igger6 said:I’m more worried about him seeing the Plagiarism/Homages thread…
And I'm most worried about him seeing the "DID JOHN WILLIAMS COMPOSE THE IJ DIAL OF DESTINY TRAILER MUSIC?" thread...
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Has anyone listened to this score?
I stumbled on some unreleased cues from it earlier today (now accessible in @CGCJ's spreadsheet) and I was shocked at how good the music actually is!
I haven't checked out this show because it looks like it's aimed at 5 year olds and I honestly had zero interest, but the music is everything Star Wars scores have been missing as of late - it's orchestral, and melodic, and I think a lot of people might appreciate it. Too bad there is no official album
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3 hours ago, Jay said:
I'm guessing he just added that to the page today or yesterday. the wayback machine should tell you
it doesn't seem to have ever been archive.org'd, but that's definitely not the case. I saw the timestamps on that page shortly after Chewy posted them here.
So they've been on that site since at least Sunday
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6 hours ago, TolkienSS said:
Huh?
How does a higher or lower average rating of a composer indicate bias?
It's an evaluation of quality. Obviously not all composers' outputs are equal in quality.
That's the point.
There is no "bias" in simply evaluating quality in musical output.
If anything, it should be called quality check.
If you don't want fair evaluation of composers' works, just give every score ever *** and be done with it.
It's not about comparing the average rating of composers' scores to each other. The point is to compare the average rating of the reviewer vs that of the audience, in order to see if the reviewer regularly gives scores of a certain composer better or worse ratings than the users of the site do.
A low average doesn't imply bias, provided both the reviewer scores and the user scores are consistent
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2 hours ago, King Mark said:
With the film flopping so badly they might not even consider pressing more c.d.'s and this could even hurt the chances of a new Indy Expansion anytime soon as they might not want to invest in this franchise anymore.
Or, maybe their loss of interest in the franchise will cause them to remove it's WDR exclusivity and open it up to Intrada
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1 hour ago, mstrox said:
That idea goes beyond the rights holder, because a bootleg doesn’t financially benefit any other associated parties - for instance, the composer or union musicians who fought hard to negotiate reuse fees for their work. A bootleg release or a law facilitating such would essentially just cut through all the red tape (which may be the barrier to release in the first place) by ignoring it.
I mean neither do used sales on ebay....
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1 hour ago, Toillion said:
The score is up for sale at Mondo for 2xCD and 3xVinyl.
https://mondoshop.com/products/oppenheimer-original-motion-picture-soundtrack-3xlphttps://mondoshop.com/products/oppenheimer-original-motion-picture-soundtrack-cd
Sweet! Hopefully the CD has additional music, that would be quite a waste to use 2 CDs just for 90 minutes
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16 hours ago, Chen G. said:
The Phantom Menace: The queen is not actually the queen (actually works pretty well)
Oh yeah! Somehow I completely forgot the queen is not the queen! That one does actually work really well.
16 hours ago, Chen G. said:Revenge of the Sith: OMG, the president is the bad guy! (in the earliest draft, Lucas also wanted to have Palpatine tell Anakin he sired him through the Midichlorians)
I've always wondered how accurate the later Darth Plagueis EU novel was to this draft, given it implements a similar concept.
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2 hours ago, Chen G. said:
Well, its very normal for films of this sort to split off into multiple story threads: its in practically every Star Wars film since the original.
I think the way The Last Jedi is really trying to "do The Empire Strikes Back" is in its constant attempts to surprise the audience. Ever since The Empire Strikes Back, every Star Wars film had a surprising twist, almost like a Shaymalan movie (and usually about as succesfully as latter-day Shaymalan). The Last Jedi feels like it has fifty of them... wears on you pretty fast.
I'm struggling to think of twists in the prequel trilogy. Didn't everyone know what would happen coming into them?
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I read online in a couple places that there was also a weekly Fringe Friday from 2011-2012 but I haven't found any record of what any of that music was, or if it's ever been released again.
But the modern iteration from 2019-present is completely documented
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I finally got to see DoD last night, I really enjoyed it. I was never a big fan of Indiana Jones in general, having never even seen KOTCS and only seen the trilogy once or twice, but I loved this one. My girlfriend had never seen any of the movies before watching this one and she loved it too. It's unfortunate it hasn't done better at the box office
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On 14/07/2023 at 12:45 PM, filmmusic said:
Ok, good news I guess, but it's so difficult most of the times for someone to have access to these scores collections, that I don't see the point why they are held in universities.
I guess only people who live in LA will have access on site.
Actually it looks like they offer free digitization services:
https://www.library.ucla.edu/about/policies/lsc-duplication-and-copyright-policies/
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9 hours ago, ThePenitentMan1 said:
The Fight Begins scores the very tippy beginning of the fight. The rest of the start of the duel (I.E. the rest of the part of the duel that takes place during The Big Army) is still tracked with End Credit.
Well actually that very beginning bit in the movie I thought wasn't identified? It's not the version of The Fight Begins in the sheets but it's not part of the final performance edit of End Credit either. My personal theory is it was probably a short insert written for the instrumental version of End Credit once it was decided to record the choir separately, since the opening would be completely missing otherwise. I have no idea if it was recorded with the instrumental End Credit or separately as an insert
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On 12/07/2023 at 1:23 AM, JWilliamsFan1999 said:Revenge Of The Sith is my all time favorite Star Wars film and score. Battle Of The Heroes and Anakin vs. Obi-Wan and Duel Of The Fates are my favorite Star Wars cues.
You should definitely check out the complete score if you haven't before
@Manakin Skywalker has an excellent playlist of it on YouTube sourcing most of the unreleased music from the videogames and the rest from blu-ray rips. It's the best possible way to listen to the music unless an official expansion ever comes out
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20 minutes ago, Richard Penna said:
Most commentary I saw when the score came out was extremely positive. I don't know where you're getting any ideas of a lukewarm reception.
Extremely positive reception from almost everyone who listened is meaningless when everyone who listened totals like 2000 people
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4 hours ago, Brando said:Also, it depends on what film format you're wanting to use. I think any computer disc drive can do Blu-Ray discs, but there's only certain ones that can rip the Atmos tracks from a 4K release which has Atmos tracks, which I do not have, so I have to ask people for rips of those films.
Not just any computer disc drive, any *blu-ray* drive. But you're right about 4k needing special drives, I'd recommend looking up libredrive on the MakeMKV forums
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On 26/04/2023 at 6:31 PM, Yavar Moradi said:
Neither Nami nor Michael comes up with that puns. That's someone else on the team, I forget who.
Yavar
Yeah that Fringe spreadsheet I was doing a few days ago had tons of pun titles that were reminiscent of Giacchino scores, even though he didn't work on the later seasons. I believe Chris Tilton said on Twitter that his editor came up with the titles
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2 hours ago, mstrox said:
I think the only way to do this is the straight reissue. You stand the chance of making a lot of nerds real mad if you release a product that is in some way better or even just different than the million dollar boxset they bought from you a few years ago
I mean it'd be better if the box set had had them separate, but it didn't, and so I'd rather get the clean openings/endings now than not at all
38 minutes ago, Yavar Moradi said:There is music omitted from ALL of those old GNP Crescendo Trek releases (multiple series). There's not a single one that was complete. Also, they didn't have first generation sources to use so they sound a lot worse. Also, they applied a fake stereo effect to the mono source they had which made it sound even worse than it should have at the time!
Yavar
Is it possible to undo the fake stereo effect by mixing back down to mono?
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On 05/07/2023 at 4:37 AM, May the Force be with You said:
The first disc is disc 2 from the Boxset, and the second one is disc 3 plus the 9 first track of disc 5
I do feel that is a little bit of a missed opportunity that it's a straight reissue, I wish the cues that were combined on the set would be made available separate
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On 13/04/2020 at 9:05 AM, Jay said:So Chris Tilton has been posting unreleased cues on Twitter every Friday for a while now.
Does anybody have a list of everything he's posted?
Better yet, does anyone know the chronological order of which OST tracks each posted cue goes between?
Thanks!
No idea if you're still looking for this but I was working on a spreadsheet earlier today:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TujXB5NSiqPSTFx9Jl39vabZkqdrxLpoFh91GaJd564/
The season breakdowns aren't complete but the Fringe Fridays list should include everything he ever posted
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7 minutes ago, mxsch said:
That's the Nazi theme from the Raiders. It's not new.
Lol I guess I really am unfamiliar with Indy music
4 minutes ago, Tydirium said:As @mxsch stated, it’s actually the Nazi theme from ROTLA, but I think you might be thinking of the stormtrooper motif? I don’t recall a rebel theme that sounds like that, unless I’m forgetting something.
Definitely not. The main triplets are the same as the rebel theme, but they diverge after that
I'm about halfway through the album, there's some great music on here! To Morocco was probably my favorite so far
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Doing my first preview listen of the album now before bed, 1:42-1:46 of Germany, 1944 almost sounds like the rebel theme from star wars
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1 hour ago, JTW said:
Yep. Just write “Music by Hans Zimmer, David Fleming, Andrew Kawczynski, Steve Mazzaro and Steven Doar” in the opening or end titles for DUNE and show in the CD booklet what cue was written by which composer and I’ll be completely fine with it.
This was sort of done for Top Gun Maverick, although the people credited for that probably shouldn't have been, given that Lady Gaga had nothing to do with the score and Harold Faltermeyer should only really have been credited for writing the original score and themes that were quoted - and the additional composers were not actually credited like they should have been.
But the premise at least of crediting multiple people with Hans Zimmer has been done before
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1 hour ago, Jay said:
That's from Volume 1, Issue 41-42-43 (January/February/March 1994) of Film Score Monthly magazine.
Available here if you're a subscriber.
You can download it if you're not a subscriber too, I believe all the pre -2005 FSM print back issues are available for free
Did you get the Dial of Destiny soundtrack on the CD format before it sold out?
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Not to mention, it's debatable whether anyone can even hear a difference between 16/44.1 and 24/48, and a certainty that no one can hear anything greater than 24/48. The difference between 16/44.1 and 24/48 is so minimal it's not worth a format change. And anyway, such a format change would've probably been better suited for something like introducing lossless compression to allow fitting double the music on a single disc