Courtney Sees Ghosts

Tydirium · July 15, 2023

It's been 2 weeks, is the score still in anyone's rotation? It still is for me.

July 7, 2023

1 hour ago, Datameister said:

Press the like/unlike button 21 times.

For someone who has only heard the score in the film … how much of the album is material lifted from previous scores? There's so much in the film, but I'm hoping the OST at least manages to focus on new material?

Most of the score lifts occur in the track Germany, 1944. The rest of the album tries to focus primarily on new themes.

July 6, 2023

13 hours ago, Vince said:

Right there with you! Luke's exile theme is my favourite element in the score to The Last Jedi and Archimedes' theme is quickly becoming a highlight for me.

How dissapointing that so many 'regular' fans tend to dismiss Williams' later work. His current musical styles is far more understated than before but I think it has a lot more going on emotionally. But this is very hard to express to the layman who desires so-called memorable themes. (If Rey's theme isn't memorable, I don't know what is.)

How do I like a post 10 times?

Manakin Skywalker · July 6, 2023

2 hours ago, Manakin Skywalker said:

I have a hunch that this was the influence. Even some of the same chords here and there, particularly closer to the end.

Glad someone else hears it too!

BrotherSound · July 6, 2023

Obsessed with 2:06 onward. Some of my favorite bits on the entire soundtrack.

Brónach · July 5, 2023

On 03/07/2023 at 2:25 PM, batmatt92 said:

Already some work happening on the score, despite filming being several months away!

And we still don't know who the composer is. But Gunn has been working with John Murphy quite a lot recently, so I'm expecting it to be him...

It's probably John Murphy again. No disrespect to him, his scores for The Suicide Squad and Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3 have a lot of highlights (all of which are emotional cues). But his lack of interest in themes, his repetitive action music, and lack of orchestral scores in his catalog make me not like the idea of him taking on Superman.

I can name 8 composers on the top of my head I think would do a much better job. John Powell being the first.

July 5, 2023

16 minutes ago, A. A. Ron said:

I would agree with this. I don't play any of the albums all the way through. I prefer Kramer's orchestrations to everyone else's and the less said about the mixing on the Giacchino scores, the better.

Love me some Rogue Nation score. Though Fallout is probably my favorite.

July 5, 2023

6 minutes ago, Edmilson said:

Yeah, Disney did Powell extremely dirty. I don't think it would've received a nomination either way that year, but still, what they did to JP and JW was so uncool, especially when you think that these days even scores for stuff like Fast and Furious receive "for your consideration" promotion by their studios.

As the resident Brian Tyler fan, his Fast scores have been on serious autopilot these past few installments. Think bro just wants to go home.

July 5, 2023

4 hours ago, Edmilson said:

There was also Solo, for which he provided the themes, in 2018.

Will never not be upset over the fact that Solo missed out on Best Original Score simply because Disney and Lucasfilm FORGOT to submit it. Makes me insanely angry.

July 3, 2023

4 minutes ago, Edmilson said:

Don't forget the 2000s! Scores like A.I., the three Potters, etc., contains as much Williams magic as his other classics.

You're so right. I'll gladly pit Revenge of the Sith, Prisoner of Azkaban and Catch Me If You Can to his early work.

July 3, 2023

4 hours ago, Trope said:

I found this comment under a YouTube video which mentioned JW's score for Dial as being relatively simplistic and forgettable. Is there any evidence to support this claim that JW no longer orchestrates his own scores and relies on other composers to realise his piano sketches?

All these lies and work arounds instead of just accepting that Williams can't recapture all the magic from his peak eras in the 70's, 80's, and 90's.

If someone else was doing all the work for him, why bother doing the work? Could've just written themes and handed the score to William Ross or John Powell. Hell, isn't that what Mangold thought was gonna happen? Like, where's the logic?

igger6 · July 3, 2023

41 minutes ago, igger6 said:

In my John-Williams-score-release-week content frenzy, I ended up back at the Filmtracks review of TLJ, and I understood for the first time why people say that “Peace and Purpose” contained the seeds of a full-on Kylie Ren concert suite. That third phrase that appears after the usual two sounds so inevitable once you notice it, and if you just tack on a second playing of the second phrase, you’ve got a nice little four-line stanza. Now add a nice B theme and presto! (I don’t think the existing mournful B theme is enough, though.)

Gonna be thinking about this forever.

Jurassic Shark · July 2, 2023

A score from this year I recommend people check out is Nicholas Britell's score for Carmen. More people should listen to it fr.

Falstaft · July 2, 2023

The score sounded dope af in the movie! Gonna be angry for the rest of my life that 90% of the music in the prologue isn't officially released. Like the score for Toy Story 4 it's a little hard to pay attention to some scenes cause I can tell where all the callbacks are from, but they sound great! Helena's Theme sounds just as great in the movie as it does on the album.

If there was any tracked in music, it didn't seem obvious like it did in Attack of the Clones, The Rise of Skywalker, or to bring up a non-Williams score, Age of Ultron.

Hope someone leaks the recording sessions sooner rather than later.

July 1, 2023

Can't wait to make suites for all these themes on YouTube channel. Gonna make finding them a lot easier.

Manakin Skywalker · July 1, 2023

20 hours ago, TheUlyssesian said:

CORRECTION TIME!

Voller Theme above is the Dial of Destiny Theme

Dial Of Destiny Theme above is Antiquity Theme / Ancient Greece Theme

Archimedes Theme is correct

This is the real Voller/Villain Theme - 1:37 in Voller Returns

You know what's funny to me? The theme for Voller is how I expected a General Hux theme to sound like in the Sequel Trilogy. Like John plucked music out of my imagination.

igger6 · June 30, 2023

So I checked my most streamed songs of this month and...

I don't have a problem!

Pieter Boelen · June 30, 2023

L for calling Rey and Helena mary sues. LMFAO

But Rey's Theme is my favorite score piece of all-time so you be the judge.

June 30, 2023

Titanic
Chasing Amy
Princess Monoke
Good Will Hunting

Stark · June 30, 2023

5 minutes ago, Edmilson said:

Pretty much that, yeah. Her music worked great with the movie and the album is not so awful to listen to after all. Among the latest Oscar wins, this is one I happen to agree with, unlike Dune or All Quiet.

As a Zimmer fan who had been constantly let down by his non-Nolan outputs in the latter half of the last decade, I enjoyed Dune (though I've spinned the score for Wonder Woman 1984 more often). Wish Encanto won the Oscar tho.

All Quiet is, in my opinion, the worst Best Original Score win in the last 15 years. Haven't been this upset over a win since Slumdog Millionaire won over Wall-E.

Edmilson · June 30, 2023

38 minutes ago, JTW said:

a biased award like Gudnadóttir for Joker (“first female nom in a looooooong time) and Zimmer for Dune (eXperimentaaaaaaal nonsense = genius).

Say what you will about Hans Zimmer's score for Dune, but Hildur's gender had no part in her win. That score was the best part of that movie.

June 30, 2023

Pros:
The score has been highlighted by many critics, so I think music critics will dig it too which always helps a blockbuster score.

It's Williams' swan song for the second most iconic franchise he's worked on, so it'll be another closed book nomination.

The Academy loves Mangold movie scores. 3:10 to Yuma got a nom while Logan and Ford v Ferrari got shortlisted.

Speaking strictly about the first half of the year, Williams' only competition is Thomas Newman's score for Elemental which I think is the most likely lock of the year.

Cons:
The Academy's rules of sequels needing 80% new music to qualify could affect Williams and Zimmer's chances of getting in.

The Academy likes to pull out the most random ass nominees from time to time, especially scores from Oscar bait season.

Lot of big time early predictions don't have Dial of Destiny as a contender. That could change I suppose.

The snobbery of the voters. "Oh it's just another Indiana Jones movie, why should we nominate this?" Granted the Star Wars sequels all got nominations so idk.

Think it's too early to tell. Film scores have been oddly muted this year (I can personally only think of 4 I've found great this year). Maybe it'll change when we get to Oscar bait season. If Disney pushes the score hard enough and the FYC pulls a TROS and only includes older themes where they simply couldn't take it out, he'll probably get in. I hope he does.

Pieter Boelen · June 30, 2023

7 hours ago, Darth Mulder said:

I want a Giacchino score for the new Indy

Still remember when he posted a picture of the staff of Ra from Raiders on his Instagram people automatically assumed he was gonna score Indiana Jones 5. Lol

Though I do wonder what a Giacchino Indy score would sound like.

Bellosh · June 29, 2023

2 minutes ago, Bellosh said:

speaking of which....I could genuinely see the academy liking Helena's Theme so much that DoD wins best score.

What a trip that would be! I mean shit, if ALL the sequel trilogy movies can be nominated, then DoD can too!

Because it's a summer release, it's a lot easier to spread awareness for throughout the campaign trail instead of coming near the end like the Sequel scores.

If all else fails, John will probably get another Best Instrumental Composition Grammy.

Brando · June 29, 2023

1 hour ago, Joni Wiljami said:

I'm so worried about the fact that this might be Williams' last score!!! What would all those fuckface negative 'fans' do with their lives?! Seriously.

From HP I have read so many comments about how JW has lost it, too old, cannot write memorable themes etc.. Almost a race, who will be the first to bash a new score. Get a life, start to listen to Trump's speeches or to analyse Hansu's scores. Or start to drink like me.

While doing the Oscar run for The Fabelmans, he talked about Spielberg's dad and how he lived to be 100. Said he's got 10 more years and Spielberg is hard to say no to.

We'll get a new Williams score in a year or two. Depends on whether or not he gets that Bond movie.

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