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    Gurkensalat got a reaction from Amer in New SACD: GERHARDT & NPO • STAR WARS & CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD KIND   
    Meanwhile I have ordered this album and listened to it. So, I can answer my own question: The MC mix is quite immersive, with the whole orchestra wrapped around the listener in a circle. The strings are in front, the French horns in the left surround, the trumpets in the right surround, for example. I like it very much, since it is very involving and allows more details of the dense orchestration to come through. But I know that it is not everybody's cup of tea, which may be the reason that Neil does not recommend it. In general sound quality is very good for such an old recording, clean and clear with almost no hiss or distortion. Dynamics could be more, but is adaequate. On the whole very recommended, especially for MC fans.  In contrast e.g. to the overpriced Matrix SACD which just adds ambiance in the surrounds and does not offer much advantage to the CD tracks. 
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    Gurkensalat reacted to A. A. Ron in Mangold: Asked JW for "big fat album" for Indy 5 with "as many cues as John can bear," also describes score & sound mix   
    You only think that because the album does such a terrible job of representing what the score has to offer.
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    Gurkensalat reacted to King Mark in Doug Fake announces a Williams title is coming from Intrada this year   
    Anything but Cinderella liberty
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    Gurkensalat reacted to GerateWohl in JW' film music that should be played by Classical Music Elite   
    The suite for cello and orchestra from Memoirs of a Geisha has actually six movements and not just three. And I miss the suite from Catch Me if You Can in the listing.
     
    I guess, a reason why such suites are not played more often are the costs. 
    But I would love to hear a suite from The Witches of Eastwick in concert with
     
    The Township of Eastwick The Tennis Game Seduction of Suki and the Ballroom Scene Dance of the Witches 
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    Gurkensalat got a reaction from Schilkeman in JW' film music that should be played by Classical Music Elite   
    Images :-)
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    Gurkensalat got a reaction from Martinland in ACROSS THE STARS - Williams / Mutter collaboration album   
    As I said before, the sound of the Musikverein recording in stereo is congested, but in 5.1 multichannel it blooms and distances every other recording of Williams Music I know of by miles. The LA Studio is nice, but cannot hold a candle to this sound marvel.
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    Gurkensalat reacted to Marian Schedenig in ACROSS THE STARS - Williams / Mutter collaboration album   
    Indeed, I was going to mention that. The stereo version sounds very different; the 5.1 version sounds very much like the real deal. Also bear in mind that this is a live recording of the real concert hall acoustics. The ASM album was a studio recording and probably sounds very different (and possibly much better) in the final mix than the actual room did during the performance.
     
    I've certainly experienced bad acoustics at the Musikverein, when it was played too loud (or too fast for the volume), or too soft. But the Philharmoniker are at home there and know it by heart, and the JW concerts were some of the most transparent sounding big orchestra concert experiences of my life.
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    Gurkensalat reacted to Martinland in ACROSS THE STARS - Williams / Mutter collaboration album   
    Never heard better live acoustics (and I've been to a few concert halls) ... it was heaven, couldn't listen to recordings for weeks afterwards; just my 2 cents...
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    Gurkensalat got a reaction from filmmusic in Far and Away (1992) - 2020 2-CD expansion from La-la Land Records   
    I have quite a lot of self-respect and can live just fine with the original CD, which is one of my least played JW soundtracks, together with Minority Report and War of the Worlds (which is why I do not need those expansions as well). On the other hand, soundtracks like Tintin are regularly played and I would be first in line for an expanded edition. Somehow I seem to prefer the "French" sound to the "Irish". :-)
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    Gurkensalat got a reaction from Jurassic Shark in Far and Away (1992) - 2020 2-CD expansion from La-la Land Records   
    This is not my experience in most cases. There are exception like Amistad or The Lost World, which I did not like as OST, but grew on me in expanded form, but normally it is just more of the same or similar.  Either I like it or not. If I like it, great, bring it on. If not, eh not so much. Indeed with Always and Presumed Innocent the expanded soundtrack did not change much in my perception of the music. Those 2 are really the reason that I am now more selective, since I did not listen to them any more after the first 2 listens just after purchase. Just same old, although Always has a nice alternate that I like, so it is not a total loss.
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    Gurkensalat got a reaction from MaxTheHouseelf in Far and Away (1992) - 2020 2-CD expansion from La-la Land Records   
    This is not my experience in most cases. There are exception like Amistad or The Lost World, which I did not like as OST, but grew on me in expanded form, but normally it is just more of the same or similar.  Either I like it or not. If I like it, great, bring it on. If not, eh not so much. Indeed with Always and Presumed Innocent the expanded soundtrack did not change much in my perception of the music. Those 2 are really the reason that I am now more selective, since I did not listen to them any more after the first 2 listens just after purchase. Just same old, although Always has a nice alternate that I like, so it is not a total loss.
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    Gurkensalat got a reaction from MaxTheHouseelf in Far and Away (1992) - 2020 2-CD expansion from La-la Land Records   
    I have quite a lot of self-respect and can live just fine with the original CD, which is one of my least played JW soundtracks, together with Minority Report and War of the Worlds (which is why I do not need those expansions as well). On the other hand, soundtracks like Tintin are regularly played and I would be first in line for an expanded edition. Somehow I seem to prefer the "French" sound to the "Irish". :-)
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    Gurkensalat reacted to Richard Penna in Far and Away (1992) - 2020 2-CD expansion from La-la Land Records   
    My purchases of the expanded WotW and MR were some time after their release, but in neither case were they important or significant purchases for me (bearing in mind my fandom of JW is pretty casual compared to most here).
     
    I primarily got them to free both scores from Williams' meddling and to get the best possible sound quality. I was astonished at how bad the OST of Worlds sounds compared to MM's expansion.
     
    There's a limit - no MM expansion is going to make me enjoy a score I didn't like in the first place, but for those cases where I've had an OST for a couple of decades and I like the bulk of it, I'm probably going to get the expansion eventually.
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    Gurkensalat reacted to Dr. Know in Far and Away (1992) - 2020 2-CD expansion from La-la Land Records   
    No self-respecting Williams fan can be without this, just sayin'
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    Gurkensalat reacted to midgemania in HIS DARK MATERIALS (HBO/BBC series)   
    As I mentioned above, I’m a big fan of the books, having read them multiple times as a kid. 
     
    That said, I do think that the conceit of the daemon is one of the richest and most interesting creations in all of fantasy literature. It allows for such depth of character to be explored without ever being dull or dense, and means that the character can have an external “internal monologue” as they’re essentially conversing with themselves. It also allows us to read things into characters that authors would otherwise need to spend pages explaining. If someone’s daemon is a spider, we automatically infer something about their character. 
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    Gurkensalat reacted to Jay in The Fabelmans - score in the film   
    Here's all the music heard in the film:
    0:00:37-0:02:18 (1:41)    Source    The Greatest Show On Earth (from The Greatest Show On Earth)    Victor Young & Ned Washington     0:10:45-0:11:27 (0:42)    Score (UNRELEASED) 0:15:43-0:17:16 (1:33)    Source    Elite Syncopations    Scott Joplin 0:20:45-0:22:18 (1:33)    Source    By A Campfire On The Trail    The Sons Of The Pioneers     0:24:36-0:24:45 (0:09)    Source    Overland Stage (from The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance)    Cyril Mockridge     0:25:19-0:26:14 (0:55)    Source    Piano Sonatina in A Minor, Op. 88 No. 3: III. Allegro Burlesco    Friedrich Kuhlau 0:26:16-0:27:13 (0:57)    Source    Piano Sonata No. 1 in F Minor, Op.2 No. 1: I. Allegro    Ludwig van Beethoven     0:29:10-0:30:18 (1:08)    Source    Council (from The Magnificent Seven)    Elmer Bernstein     0:30:18-0:30:37 (0:19)    Source    Calvera's Return (from The Magnificent Seven)    Elmer Bernstein     0:30:37-0:31:09 (0:32)    Source    Calvera Routed (from The Magnificent Seven)    Elmer Bernstein     0:31:09-0:31:27 (0:18)    Source    Finale (from The Magnificent Seven)    Elmer Bernstein     0:37:56-0:40:16 (2:20)    Score (Mitzi's Dance) -- 3M3    Mom's Dance 0:41:34-0:44:08 (2:34)    Source    3 Gymnopédies No. 2    Erik Satie     0:44:25-0:45:14 (0:49)    Score (Midnight Call) 0:49:47-0:51:38 (1:51)    Source    Sonatina in C Major, Op. 36 No. 3: I. Spiritoso    Muzio Clementi 0:52:57-0:53:18 (0:21)    Source    Sonatina in C Major, Op. 36 No. 3: I. Spiritoso    Muzio Clementi     (2nd appearance) 0:53:19-0:54:59 (1:40)    Source    Sonatina in C Major, Op. 36 No. 3: I. Spiritoso    Muzio Clementi     (3rd appearance) 0:55:05-1:00:50 (5:45)    Source    Concerto in D Minor, BWV 974: II. Adagio    Johann Sebastian Bach 1:02:40-1:03:50 (1:10)    Source    Raw-Hide    Link Wray & The Wraymen     1:05:40-1:06:44 (1:04)    Score (UNRELEASED) 1:06:56-1:08:19 (1:23)    Source    This Is The West (from How The West Was Won)    Alfred Newman     1:08:21-1:09:23 (1:02)    Source    Buffalo Stampede (from How The West Was Won)    Alfred Newman     1:13:55-1:16:00 (2:05)    Source    Concerto in D Minor, BWV 974: II. Adagio    Johann Sebastian Bach     (2nd appearance) 1:19:19-1:20:12 (0:53)    Source    Da Doo Ron Ron (When He Walked Me Home)    The Crystals     1:21:16-1:22:59 (1:43)    Score (Reverie) 1:34:59-1:36:13 (1:14)    Score (unknown cue name, but it is included in the Midnight Call OST track) 1:45:57-1:47:40 (1:43)    Source     Goodbye Cruel World    James Darren     1:48:00-1:50:40 (2:40)    Score (New House) 1:50:40-1:50:52 (0:12)    Source    If You Wanna Be Happy    Jimmy Soul     1:52:48-1:54:01 (1:13)    Source    He’s So Fine    The Chiffons     1:54:01-1:56:55 (2:54)    Source    Walk On By    Burt Bacharach & Hal David     1:58:11-1:59:45 (1:34)    Source    If You Wanna Be Happy    Jimmy Soul     (2nd appearance) 1:59:45-2:00:54 (1:09)    Source    Limbo Rock    Chubby Checker     2:00:54-2:02:18 (1:24)    Source    Captain From Castile Suite    Alfred Newman     2:08:36-2:11:19 (2:43)    Score (Mother and Son) -- 8M8    Kitchen Talk 2:13:56-2:16:10 (2:14)    Score (The Letter) -- 9M2    Dance Reprise 2:18:20-2:19:13 (0:53)    Source    Ethan Returns (from The Searchers)    Max Steiner     2:23:05-2:30:40 (7:35)    Score (The Journey Begins) Almost all the scores times are different than OST album track lengths, because almost every cue is different in the film than on the album
     
    OST track "Reflections" is not in the film at all (it might be an alternate for "The Letter", perhaps
     
    Most of OST track "The Fabelmans" replaces the first half of "Mother and Son" in the film, but its unclear if it was written as a revised opening to that cue, or an album cue that ended up in the film as a replacement
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    Gurkensalat reacted to Disco Stu in The Fabelmans - score in the film   
    Only just learned that the beautiful Bach Adagio that's so pivotal in the film is actually a very faithful arrangement of a piece by another composer: an Oboe Concerto by Alessandro Marcello
     
    Lovely
     
     
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    Gurkensalat reacted to Luke Skywalker in After reading this, who still thinks 'Dial of Destiny' will be Williams' last score?   
    The only fault of Tintin is not having the two planned sequels.
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    Gurkensalat got a reaction from Brando in Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (James Mangold, June 30 2023)   
    I think it sounds bigger than it probably is. I doubt that they change the story at this point. Probably a minor reshoot which will amount to a perhaps 20 seconds in the finished film. And Williams probably just has to adapt  the existing material a bit. Nice, that they don't solve it by the usual hacking up of the soundtrack and copy/paste.
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    Gurkensalat got a reaction from Yavar Moradi in Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (James Mangold, June 30 2023)   
    I think it sounds bigger than it probably is. I doubt that they change the story at this point. Probably a minor reshoot which will amount to a perhaps 20 seconds in the finished film. And Williams probably just has to adapt  the existing material a bit. Nice, that they don't solve it by the usual hacking up of the soundtrack and copy/paste.
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    Gurkensalat reacted to Andy in Avatar 2, 3 and 4 or how James Cameron stopped worrying and pulled The Hobbit on us   
    I don't care for him as a person, but I respect James Cameron for sticking to his guns and also staying (mostly) to the genre of fantasy/sci-fi.  He could easily try to become the history professor like Spielberg, but he's clearly a showman.  
     
    Don't really love Avatar, but I enjoyed it, and while the narrative is not new, it's at least not a reboot or adaptation.  And it's fine as entertainment.
     
    Plus, I want 3D to come back.
     
    #TeamCameron
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    Gurkensalat reacted to BarneyW in John Williams conducts Filarmonica della Scala, Milan, Italy, 12 December 2022!   
    Just realised who I was sat with for the rehearsal…
     
    Am under 30. Got a ticket for tomorrow but thought I’d take my chances at the rehearsal today (despite sold out / no ticket). 
     
    Ended up asking people outside if they had a spare ticket. Got one off a nice lady.
     
    We sit together in the auditorium. I ask how she got a paper ticket, obviously she’s important! Says she’s worked with John.
     
    I see this post after. Had heard of Anne from the Vienna concert. Obviously it turns out to be her! Didn’t realise till I saw this message, googled her, and thought “looks familiar” 😂
     
    I was very grateful for the (free) ticket!
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    Gurkensalat reacted to Trumpeteer in The Fabelmans - score in the film   
    I've finally watched "The Fabelmans" and I am able to return to this forum so nothing could be spoiled for me. (I don't listen to JW scores before I hear them in the film.)
     
    I think the score fits the tone of the film, and this is why I don't listen to the scores first. If I heard the music first, I would have been disappointed that it wasn't going to be some major theatrical film memoir about Spielberg's life. It's a very intimate portrait of his family and the "struggles" he endured (all of them pretty much expected), and the score, as John Williams has said, is a tribute to his parents. It was a good choice to make it an actors' film and not a director's film. The performances sell the movie, and everyone else is exercising great restraint, including John Williams. That also goes for cinematographer Janusz Kaminski, who didn't do too many "look at me" camera tricks (except the really funny one in the last shot).
     
    I'm going to take a day or two to digest the film and score, then get to work on returning to my podcast "The Baton" for an in-depth episode. I'm really looking forward to returning to the show after two years away.
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