Nick Parker 3,040 Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Yes, they should have won, but that is not up to us, is it? (Is it...?)The armies of Zimmercrats will march over the face of the Earth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 The bending of this rule will make me furious if KotCS is disqualified because of the use of pre-existing themes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Hans Zimmer probably showed the Academy Awards people his favorite pair of trousers.... In epileptic shock, they repealed their decision.I would not worry about that, indy4. Batons can be used for more than conducting, if you know what I mean.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 The bending of this rule will make me furious if KotCS is disqualified because of the use of pre-existing themes.It won't be disqualified because of that. I'm just straight-up telling you, don't get your hopes high for a nomination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,696 Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Dammit.This is why the Oscars are a load of bullcrap. It's not about the best. It's about what fits in the rules, and even then they ignore them when they want to. Two Towers was disqualified because they couldn't decide if pre-existing themes were a problem, then they go and nominate Babel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desplat13 1 Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Yeah, this is the kind of stuff that makes me hate the Academy. If they bend their own rules, why not just permanently change them so there will be no bending??TDK will get nominated for score, I am now sure of it. Whether it will win is another story, I still need to see the other noms. At this point, these could all be possible noms:The Dark KnightThe Curious Case Of Benjamin ButtonFrost/NixonDefianceWALL*ERevolutionary RoadCheIndiana Jones And The Kingdom Of The Crystal SkullHmm, I can't think of anything else. That's 8 scores, 5 of which are by only 3 different composers What about QoS and Horton Hears A Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 By using that logic, KotCS doesn't deserve the Oscar because Raiders, ToD, and LC deserve it more.Correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 What about QoS and Horton Hears A Who? Neither has a chance. The QoS score didn't make much of a dent, and people don't really remember Horton (the film), much less the score. Koray's list sounds about right to me, although I think that Shore's Doubt could also be up there. I don't really see Indy being nominated. Not much love for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 What about QoS and Horton Hears A Who? Neither has a chance. The QoS score didn't make much of a dent, and people don't really remember Horton (the film), much less the score. Koray's list sounds about right to me, although I think that Shore's Doubt could also be up there. I don't really see Indy being nominated. Not much love for it.I forgot about Doubt, I saw the trailer for it when I saw Milk. Looks promising. Also on the poster for it in the lobby, one of the reviews actually mentioned Shore' s score. So who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 By using that logic, KotCS doesn't deserve the Oscar because Raiders, ToD, and LC deserve it more.Correct.It deserves the Oscar for being the best score of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 TOD & Raiders?YesKOTCS?No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJWilkie 0 Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 By using that logic, KotCS doesn't deserve the Oscar because Raiders, ToD, and LC deserve it more.Correct.It deserves the Oscar for being the best score of the year.Wall-E was better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 For those who are interested - http://www.youtube.com/user/xXDannyGeraldoXxYAAAAAAY! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmrDH_INF7M My favorite unreleased cue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Nobody here is going to rationally and successfully argue that KOTCS is better than Raiders or TOD.But saying that KOTCS shouldn't win an Oscar because those other 20+ year old scores are superior is like arguing that just because you were outscored last week in football 14-10, and lost this week 7-6, that you should have won this week's game because 10>7.And no, that is not the most stupid thing I have ever said here, because I'm keeping track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 This is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Nobody here is going to rationally and successfully argue that KOTCS is better than Raiders or TOD.Why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desplat13 1 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 And no, that is not the most stupid thing I have ever said here, because I'm keeping track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManofDestiny 71 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 So, nobody talk about the new set? Or nobody ordered it?According to the sound clip, it seems it's some cues from the original suites mix with some little unreleased material into film version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Perhaps no one here has it yet? Or perhaps not many here care about it all that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Bingo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 I would have it and be listening and talking about it. But since my brother is the one who buys all the RCP, he most likely has it in his apartment. I'll get a hold of it next week when the semester ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corellian2019 386 Posted December 10, 2008 Author Share Posted December 10, 2008 For those who are interested - http://www.youtube.com/user/xXDannyGeraldoXxSWEEEEEEEETT! :lol: :jump: Danny Geraldo must've ordered some sort of Super Deluxe Fast Shipping to get his copy on the same day as the release, though.YAAAAAAY! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmrDH_INF7M My favorite unreleased cue.Why? Because it has that 'epic' theme from BB? Personally, 0:42-0:58 of 'Bank Robbery Prologue' is pure heaven for me. Allthough I was a little miffed that we didn't the opening whooshing sounds for that same track. But that's nitpicking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Danny Geraldo must've ordered some sort of Super Deluxe Fast Shipping to get his copy on the same day as the release, though.Amazon gets it to you on the release day with free 2-day shipping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corellian2019 386 Posted December 10, 2008 Author Share Posted December 10, 2008 Except it costs more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bondo 33 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Anyone want to attempt a chronological tracklist combining both CDs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManofDestiny 71 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Anyone want to attempt a chronological tracklist combining both CDs?Than you'll have to edit a lot of materials in the 1st disc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Takis 206 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Anyone want to attempt a chronological tracklist combining both CDs?Than you'll have to edit a lot of materials in the 1st disc.Bring it on, says I! I actually ordered this today ... had a coupon that brought it down to around $35 from Barnes & Noble (with membership). I'm not 100% sold on keeping it ... but worst case scenario, I figure a pristine used copy will fetch back most or all of what I paid.Anyway, I ALWAYS like to know what chronological order everything *belongs* in ... even if I ultimately decide it's too much trouble to re-edit. So I repeat: bring on the analysis! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corellian2019 386 Posted December 10, 2008 Author Share Posted December 10, 2008 I actually ordered this today ... had a coupon that brought it down to around $35 from Barnes & Noble (with membership).Damn it! Any hint as to where one can get coupons like those, excluding membership? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissPadmé 17 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 I ordered it.. today. I bet it will arrive before my Indy box! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,696 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 This is one expanded set I simply don't give a crap about. I'm told most of it is just variations/remixes, which makes it seem even worse value.Those who like it, I hope you enjoy BTW - those who like it, I hope you're not the same people who thought Indy 4 was absolute rubbish. That's unforgivable surely... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 YAAAAAAY! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmrDH_INF7M My favorite unreleased cue.Why? Because it has that 'epic' theme from BB? Personally, 0:42-0:58 of 'Bank Robbery Prologue' is pure heaven for me. Allthough I was a little miffed that we didn't the opening whooshing sounds for that same track. But that's nitpicking.YES! I still am extremely disappointed that was not included, so when I saw this, I wet myself in excitement.I don't like the Bank Prologue as much as I expected. It sounds kind of choppy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyO 62 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Probably because Zimmer wrote the 9 minute "Why So Serious?" suite and then edited it to fit particular scenes by changing the synths and percussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Probably because Zimmer wrote the 9 minute "Why So Serious?" suite and then edited it to fit particular scenes by changing the synths and percussion.Maybe. Still, it's nice to have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob 0 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 BTW - those who like it, I hope you're not the same people who thought Indy 4 was absolute rubbish. That's unforgivable surely...Well, MissPadmé has admitted to not caring much for Jerry Goldsmith... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaderbait1 1 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 So this isn't actually a complete score? It's just a bonus disc of remixes basically?EDIT: Read on another site that it's basically film versions of the first disc, plus a lot of minutes of remixes.That's ridiculous for the price. The Zimmer generation must really be dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 BTW - those who like it, I hope you're not the same people who thought Indy 4 was absolute rubbish. That's unforgivable surely...Well, MissPadmé has admitted to not caring much for Jerry Goldsmith... That's what you call broad taste these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 BTW - those who like it, I hope you're not the same people who thought Indy 4 was absolute rubbish. That's unforgivable surely...Well, MissPadmé has admitted to not caring much for Jerry Goldsmith... That's what you call broad taste these days.Or is that being close minded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Well nobody beats Jerrald the King. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Well, I never liked Goldsmith really. I only liked Alien and First Contact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corellian2019 386 Posted December 10, 2008 Author Share Posted December 10, 2008 So this isn't actually a complete score? It's just a bonus disc of remixes basically?EDIT: Read on another site that it's basically film versions of the first disc, plus a lot of minutes of remixes.That's ridiculous for the price. The Zimmer generation must really be dumb.Well, I haven't got the set yet, and I haven't listened to all of the tracks available on YouTube, but for example, "Halfway to Hong Kong" is a cue that wasn't heard on the first album, and it contains the music heard when Alfred bandages Bruce and Bruce observes Rachel on a bank of monitors.What sucks, though, is that once again the tracks suffer from misleading titles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 When I get mine, I think I may combine Introduce a Little Anarchy with We Are Tonight's Entertainment. I just love the thought of those two together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corellian2019 386 Posted December 10, 2008 Author Share Posted December 10, 2008 There are now audio samples at Walmart.comAnyone got any links to audio samples on other websites? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 The track "Bank Robbery Prologue" is actually better than the suite "Why So Serious?" on the OST. It's more condensed and focused, while the latter is just too long and dull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 The track "Bank Robbery Prologue" is actually better than the suite "Why So Serious?" on the OST. It's more condensed and focused, while the latter is just too long and dull.I agree, plus the fact that the thematic parts also included in WSS are better mixed IMO in The Bank Robbery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 The track "Bank Robbery Prologue" is actually better than the suite "Why So Serious?" on the OST. It's more condensed and focused, while the latter is just too long and dull.Maybe because Why So Serious? was a suite track.And I don't get people being confused by the second disc. Just LOOK at the track titles. Only 4 tracks are remixes. The rest is unreleased score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 Chrono list(Don't be surprised if it's wrong)01 - Bank Robbery (Prologue)02 - Buyer Beware03 - Halfway To Hong Kong04 - Why So Serious?05 - I'm Not A Hero06 - Harvey Two-Face07 - Aggressive Expansion08 - Decent Men In An Indecent Time09 - Always A Catch10 - Blood On My Hands11 - You're Gonna Love Me12 - A Little Push13 - Like A Dog Chasing Cars14 - Chance15 - I Am The Batman16 - You Complete Me17 - And I Thought My Jokes Were Bad18 - Agent Of Chaos19 - The Ferries20 - Introduce A Little Anarchy21 - Watch The World Burn22 - We Are Tonight's Entertainment23 - A Watchful Guardian24 - A Dark Knight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corellian2019 386 Posted December 11, 2008 Author Share Posted December 11, 2008 Chrono list(Don't be surprised if it's wrong)01 - Bank Robbery (Prologue)02 - Buyer Beware03 - Halfway To Hong Kong04 - Why So Serious?05 - I'm Not A Hero06 - Harvey Two-Face07 - Aggressive Expansion08 - Decent Men In An Indecent Time09 - Always A Catch10 - Blood On My Hands11 - You're Gonna Love Me12 - A Little Push13 - Like A Dog Chasing Cars14 - Chance15 - I Am The Batman16 - You Complete Me17 - And I Thought My Jokes Were Bad18 - Agent Of Chaos19 - The Ferries20 - Introduce A Little Anarchy21 - Watch The World Burn22 - We Are Tonight's Entertainment23 - A Watchful Guardian24 - A Dark KnightPsst, I figured out the correct order for the first track: combine 1:55-end of "Decent Men" and all of "Bank Robbery". Pretty good list, overall, though. Now all we need is CJWilkie to go NUTS on his chronological list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 The track "Bank Robbery Prologue" is actually better than the suite "Why So Serious?" on the OST. It's more condensed and focused, while the latter is just too long and dull.Maybe because Why So Serious? was a suite track.Just because it's a suite doesn't mean it has to be overly long and tiresome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 It being tiresome is your opinion, but usually the point of a suite is that it's long. You rarely see any under 6 minutes, and a lot go up to 15 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 I'm with Red on this. It does get old after about the first 5 minutes. The following themes work best mainly in the film. Not to mention, it doesn't really return back to the 2-note motif which is really what I liked most about the Joker's theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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