A24 4,346 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 It was used in some TV program and it struck me how well it works as film music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,360 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Superman II, Matrix Rebloated, Conan, and Beauty and the Beast. Now listening to Spartacus again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,374 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 1 minute ago, Fennel Ka said: Matrix Rebloated Out of all three Matrix scores, I'd say that's the one with the least bloat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,360 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 27 minutes ago, Jay said: Out of all three Matrix scores, I'd say that's the one with the least bloat! I was not referring to the scores actually. All The Brothers Were Valiant - Miklos Rozsa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan complete score Batman Returns complete score Batman (1989) complete score and Prince album Pee-Wee's Big Adventure (Elfman/Burton box set version) Godzilla (1998) complete score Now: Return of the Jedi OST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Weird as it sounds, I find that Elfman's Pee-wee's Big Adventure score makes a fantastic soundtrack for mowing the lawn. Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 The Shawshank Redemption (LLL) - Thomas Newman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 2 hours ago, Disco Stu said: Weird as it sounds, I find that Elfman's Pee-wee's Big Adventure score makes a fantastic soundtrack for mowing the lawn. It's my first Burton film and Elfman score. It just predates Batman. I think that one was the catalyst for all of this. Who knows. Had I not watched Pee-Wee's Big Adventure as a child, I might be listening to Taylor Swift and Beyonce and watching Game of Thrones. Fuck that shit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 I've had a chat with Charlie Brigden about Ghostbusters (Shapiro), The Neon Demon (Martinez), Ice Age: Collision Course (Debney), The Secret Life of Pets (Desplat) as well as Captain Fantastic (Somers). As well as some other bits. And I apologise for the sound. Something went strangely wrong in the final stages. I've lost the backup files it was impossible to go back and redo that. Annoying. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 The Lord of the Rings: Return of the King (Shore) - the 2003 OST, not the CR edition. Still an amazing album that is perfect for revisiting that score (and film) when you don't have 3.5-4 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,352 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 The BFG. Not even mildly impressed. Kept six tracks and especially liked Meeting The Queen. The main theme badly needs proper treatment and as usual, I really like the others, but the dissonance throughout the entire score is so off-putting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,360 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 28 minutes ago, bollemanneke said: but the dissonance... is so off-putting. And water is wet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Someone is listening with 13th century ears. A. A. Ron and bollemanneke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Star Wars OST Now: The Empire Strikes Back OST Next: Return of the Jedi OST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 E.T.: The Extra Terrestrial (OST) Indiana Jones and the Temple Of Doom (OST) Batman (OST) Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Batman (OST) ID4 (John Williams) Prince (Complete Score) Godzilla (Prince) Naïve Old Fart and Gruesome Son of a Bitch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Back To The Future (John Williams) The from Zelda (John Williams) Batman v Superman (John Williams and John Williams) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Good good stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,360 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Technically not a score but it is the birthplace of the leitmotif right? The Symphonic Ring - Richard Wagner/Dressler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 5 hours ago, TheWhiteRider said: Someone is listening with 13th century ears. Personally, anything outside of the pentatonic scale is the devil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,360 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Now Playing: Tron Legacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Batman (1989) OST (Prince) Now: ID4 complete score Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 1 hour ago, Muad'Dib said: Good good stuff Not familiar with Cirpriani outside his superb western scores. Any other recommendations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 2 hours ago, Fennel Ka said: Technically not a score but it is the birthplace of the leitmotif right? The Symphonic Ring - Richard Wagner/Dressler Nah, that's Berlioz, or possibly even earlier! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 48 minutes ago, Koray Savas said: Not familiar with Cirpriani outside his superb western scores. Any other recommendations? Yeah, check this one out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 2 hours ago, Fennel Ka said: Technically not a score but it is the birthplace of the leitmotif right? The Symphonic Ring - Richard Wagner/Dressler You're a braver than me. I really can't stomach Wagner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 26 minutes ago, Muad'Dib said: Yeah, check this one out Good stuff. Thanks for the selections. I'll have to track those down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 31 minutes ago, Sharkus Malarkus said: You're a braver than me. I really can't stomach Wagner. I like Parsifal and moments from Lohengrin and Tristan. And I can usually make it through The Ring Without Words. Otherwise, it ain't a cakewalk, is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 I'm only truly familiar with Das Rheingold, which I enjoyed, plus bits and pieces of the rest of the Ring, as well as a miniscule portion of Tannhäuser. I'm not a gigantic opera fanatic to begin with and Wagner is basically the apotheosis of that art form, so I'm having to take opera in small doses. I've been spooning up to it over the last few years, but I'm still very selective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,360 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 The album listened to was just orchestra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Yeah I am pretty light on opera as well. Strange, since it's obviously an ancestor of what we're all here for. Apart from those Wagners I mentioned, some classic Italian arias and choruses, Debussy's Pelléas and Gonoud's Faust, and Adams' Nixon/Doctor Atomic, it's not something I explore often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 An ancestor maybe. But definitely inferior to what we cherish most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 I don't really disagree. Film music is an evolution, and it has all the benefits that come with that. Chief among them being that film music knows better than to take on the entirety of the drama by itself. That's what's so tiring and dampens operatic appeal for me, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Mussorgsky's Boris Godunov and Khovantchina, plus Bartok's Bluebeard's Castle are stunning works in the opera repertoire that I also find are quite easy to get into. Wagner needed an editor. There are stunning quarters of an hour buried amongst each hour of his operas. But that's probably due to my lack of sophistication as listener and not Wagner's fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 I'd just like to add that the original Star Wars trilogy albums are perfect and better than just about everything. Jedi might actually be my favorite Williams OST album ever, but I realize only Drax and I love it and everyone thinks we're just saying that to be ironic. Sony did a good job with the albums, but the Jedi remaster is pointless unless you don't have the original CD. You can't improve on perfection. Still, the lack of physical CD releases is a huge bummer. Fucking Sony can't do anything right. First. the Ultimate Edition, then the Attack of the Clones bonus track, then all the reissues of the RCA Victor versions of the trilogy with screensavers and that retarded Corellian Edition (?), the 3D TPM OST with "Duel of the Fates" dialogue track and the Ghostbusters reboot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Quote Jedi might actually be my favorite Williams OST album ever, but I realize only Drax and I love it and everyone thinks we're just saying that to be ironic. I think you love it because you are mentally unstable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,293 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 1 hour ago, TheWhiteRider said: I don't really disagree. Film music is an evolution, and it has all the benefits that come with that. Chief among them being that film music knows better than to take on the entirety of the drama by itself. That's what's so tiring and dampens operatic appeal for me, I think. Partly why I find ballet scores more familiar and accessible as a film score fan. I feel like there's more leeway with the theatrics...you get a little breather of some mild accompaniment for every moment of wild or dark expressivity, and greater variety in style, technique, orchestration, phrasing, since the music isn't obliged to the human voice. I don't know, I'm not an expert on either but in my limited listening experience I've never found opera reminded me much of film music, even apart from the singing. It's like opera is always the go-to comparison there but in terms of modern film scoring sensibilities, ballet music feels more like home to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 You know, I was going to mention how ballet, being the other direct ancestor in the musical family tree, is the more typically approachable one. I'm not certain that it's the closer comparison, though. I think film music of any type, of any complexity or style, when done well, is intensely operatic in its nature. The sung libretto is traded out for spoken dialogue, cinematography, editing, etc., and the score itself represents the remnant - accompaniment. Getting out of the way musically when people are speaking, orchestrating to avoid clashing with actors' vocal ranges or sound effects, these aren't merely technicalities of scoring. They have exact analogues in how opera is composed. I was thinking recently how the Sept of Baelor sequence from the GOT season finale is so satisfyingly operatic. Not what many people would think, perhaps, but it's undeniable to me in how closely the score observes cuts and dialogue. Ballet, with its more symbolic and impressionistic nature (no dialogue) is obviously closely linked to musical setpieces in modern scores. But I think it shares less overall from a dramatic standpoint and is more distant from typical dramatic underscore, precisely because it isn't obliged to the human voice: how often does the equivalent of that really happen in scores? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post publicist 4,643 Posted July 21, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted July 21, 2016 Romeo & Juliet - Nino Rota There have been dozens of musical works based on Shakespeare's most beloved weepie and next to Prokoviev, Rota leads the pack. It's not so much the chart-storming love theme but the attractive translation of the italian renaissance period into a standard orchestral setting - youthful optimism (and finally, desperation) glows inside. Written with almost somnambulistic assurance it's one of film music's enduring gifts. crocodile, Incanus and KK 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 The sheer youthful ardor and romance of the score is magnificent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 11 hours ago, TheWhiteRider said: I like Parsifal and moments from Lohengrin and Tristan. And I can usually make it through The Ring Without Words. Otherwise, it ain't a cakewalk, is it? I just find it hard to separate the man from the music. Plus I find there's something messaeinic and humourless about his language. A parallel for me is Stockhausen, who I've never warmed for those same reasons. I'm not a huge opera buff, but I do like a few. Purcell and Montiverdi's 17thC operas, Mozart's Cosi Fan Tutte and Don Giovanni, Puccini's Tosca and Madame Butterfly. Milhaud's L'Orestie d'Eschyle, Bartok's Bluebeard's Castle, Shosty's Lady Macbeth of Mtensk, Stravinsky's Rake's Progress, Britten's Turn of the Screw, and Adam's Nixon in China. More of an oratio guy, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 I bought this recording of The Abduction from the Seraglio last year and it's quickly my favorite opera recording I've ever heard. I guess this means I like operas best when they're "fun". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 1 hour ago, Sharkus Malarkus said: A parallel for me is Stockhausen, who I've never warmed for those same reasons. So one can assume you don't hail from the Sirius system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,374 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Ron Jones and Walter Murphy - Family Guy: Movement 1 Eh. The music can be a lot of fun on the show but this album didn't do too much for me John Williams - The BFG I like this album more with each listen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 18 minutes ago, Jay said: Ron Jones and Walter Murphy - Family Guy: Movement 1 Eh. The music can be a lot of fun on the show but this album didn't do too much for me Yeah, this is why I decided to pass on the album. It's fun stuff, but it's pastiche and parody that I wouldn't think would hold up to close listening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,374 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Plus the album is an hour and it felt like I was listening to it for 2 hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 2 hours ago, TheWhiteRider said: So one can assume you don't hail from the Sirius system? Is that the birthplace of Siri? I'll ask her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Vertigo by Bernard Herrmann. Undoubtedly, one of the best scores ever written. Never tired of it. And this is one of my favourite albums ever: Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 24 minutes ago, crocodile said: Vertigo by Bernard Herrmann. Undoubtedly, one of the best scores ever written. Never tired of it. And this is one of my favourite albums ever: Karol Indeed! My absolute favorite non-Williams score of all time. crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 The Empire Strikes Back Symphonic Suite - Charles Gerhardt Batman Returns - Danny Elfman Masters of the Universe - Bill Conti Stand Still, Look Pretty - The Wreckers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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