publicist 4,647 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 What a world where people are paid for such heinous crimes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doo_liss 6,436 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Looks like a bad, video game cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,445 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Track times for the Predator 2 rip please?I haven't listened to the Predator 2 OST in a lonnnnnnnnng timeI believe track 11 of Judge Dredd sounds like......... (looking at P2 track titles now...) ... El Scoprio? Or maybe Swinging Rude Boys. Then, it's repeated in the end credits. You can't miss it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Train Station 8,680 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Star Trek Nemesis: Deluxe Edition. Marvelous! I like some of the album mixes better though. I like the up-front synths more, formulaic as they are. There is a mean harshness to NEMESIS that makes it not better but at least different than the other more polished efforts JG did for the TNG movies. Though it relies on the one-note Remus theme too much, it still is remarkable how Goldsmith is able to build a unified score out of these tiny thematic strains.The synths in "Repairs" are more prominent in the album mix, which I liked.The ferocity of this score is what draws me back to it. It was under appreciated when it was first released.I think Insurrection has a bit more colour and variety to it. As much as I like First Contact, I think it's relatively bland compared to Goldsmith's other less popular TNG scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code 000. Destruct. 0. 4,260 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 First Contact is kept afloat by what is maybe Jerry's best theme ever, and the Borg material. But on the whole it is somewhat bland now that you mention it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doo_liss 6,436 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 The premium Jerry Trek is still TMP and TFF IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code 000. Destruct. 0. 4,260 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Train Station 8,680 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Indeed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doo_liss 6,436 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 TFF (well and TMP) is IMO one of the best marriages of synth and orchestra ever composed, since The Fortress of Solitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code 000. Destruct. 0. 4,260 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 I don't know if I'd go that far, but I know better than to say what tops it for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,449 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Track times for the Predator 2 rip please?I haven't listened to the Predator 2 OST in a lonnnnnnnnng timeI got that beat! I got that beat! I've never listened to the Predator ost.Predator is the only essential Predator franchise score. Everything else is ancillary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,974 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 I dunno, I like the Latin drum grooves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bespinGPT 8,767 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 The Birth Of The Twins and Padme's Destiny by John Williams on Grooveshark Remembering childhood by John Williams on Grooveshark IV. "Ode to Joy" [Excerpt] from Symphony No. 9 in D Minor, Op. 125 by Ion Storm on Grooveshark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,449 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 I do to, but not that much.Plus we get that whole new urban dread theme thrown in for good measure, but I wouldn't want to listen to it on headphones or anything like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Train Station 8,680 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Strip Predator 2 of some of the boring bits and add a few of the good missing bits and it'd be a wet dream of action suspense music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,308 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Track times for the Predator 2 rip please?I haven't listened to the Predator 2 OST in a lonnnnnnnnng timeI got that beat! I got that beat! I've never listened to the Predator ost.Predator is the only essential Predator franchise score. Everything else is ancillary.I'll do you one better.I've never seen the Predator films, nor have I heard any of their scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Train Station 8,680 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Shit happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,449 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Hardly one-upmanship though is it. KK may as well just change his avatar to "Born in the Nineties". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,308 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 And proud of it!I always mean to get to them, but never do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,306 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 The music at the end of Gravity would have sit better with me if it sounded like the the latter part of this instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,647 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 I've never seen the Predator films, nor have I heard any of their scores.I always found the end credits of PREDATOR 2 one of Silvestri's strongest pieces. It really is huge:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTqxErnM3EQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paleo 70 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Got Stardust by Ilan Eshkeri the other day.... there really is some amazing music, and overall the album is a great listening experience... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,456 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Track times for the Predator 2 rip please? I haven't listened to the Predator 2 OST in a lonnnnnnnnng time I got that beat! I got that beat! I've never listened to the Predator ost.Predator is the only essential Predator franchise score. Everything else is ancillary.You've never listened to the Predator 2 OST, correct, is that what you meant? I don't think I made it halfway into either P2 or Predators, and I own both. I'm going to see if I can now, but I must start with Intrada's second effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,415 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Ive never made it through Predator, never heard the second score. (Outside the film) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 39,445 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 I've never seen the Predator films, nor have I heard any of their scores.I always found the end credits of PREDATOR 2 one of Silvestri's strongest pieces. It really is huge:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTqxErnM3EQYea the Judge Dredd bit is just like 3:22 of that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 9,048 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Alan Silvestri - Judge Dredd (OST) Hadn't listened to this in a long time. It's much better than I remembered! GREAT main them, good surrounding music too. I totally forgot that track 11 copies basically note for note the gang's theme from Predator 2 Twice! I love Block War. Album sounds very good, too (but then so do most Silvestri recordings, thanks to Sands). Got Stardust by Ilan Eshkeri the other day.... there really is some amazing music, and overall the album is a great listening experience... It doesn't have much depth and has more than its share of ripoffs (some not so troublesome, like the LOTR pastiches, others more concerning - the 1:1 rip from Kilar's Dracula). But it also has a BIG heart and is certainly a lot of fun. For a pretty MV-type fantasy score, it feels unusually traditional and magical (the film - which I love - probably helped a lot in shaping it). The first half of the album is a keeper. I love the idea of using a 7/8 rhythm for Septimus. Incanus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,541 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Got Stardust by Ilan Eshkeri the other day.... there really is some amazing music, and overall the album is a great listening experience... It doesn't have much depth and has more than its share of ripoffs (some not so troublesome, like the LOTR pastiches, others more concerning - the 1:1 rip from Kilar's Dracula). But it also has a BIG heart and is certainly a lot of fun.+1I love the idea of using a 7/8 rhythm for Septimus.Another fun fact is that Septimus is the seventh track on the album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,974 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Got Stardust by Ilan Eshkeri the other day.... there really is some amazing music, and overall the album is a great listening experience... It doesn't have much depth and has more than its share of ripoffs (some not so troublesome, like the LOTR pastiches, others more concerning - the 1:1 rip from Kilar's Dracula). But it also has a BIG heart and is certainly a lot of fun.Still bemused that someone thought it was worthy of this honour, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code 000. Destruct. 0. 4,260 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 I'm so glad that exists, rather than one for, say, that shit that is A.I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,308 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Are those books any good by the way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doo_liss 6,436 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code 000. Destruct. 0. 4,260 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 2:45 hmmmmmmmpppphhh3:40 nnnnnnnnnggggahhh Great tunes, both.ALSO... how 'bout dat ridiculous last minute of Arnold's Independence Day?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8lHeAllz2E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,415 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 It's brilliantly epic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Train Station 8,680 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Yeah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,415 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Independence Day......FUCK YEAH!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Train Station 8,680 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Welcome ta erf! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,449 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 The last minute is the very definition of score bombast, and I used to love it for it, but I dunno, these days it's just a bit much. I mean, it was always OTT, but now it just feels loud for loud's sake. And busy as hell. I know Stefan loves this sort of writing and performance. Also, I much prefer the more musically defined grand finale of the movie itself before the credits start, with its epic and deeply satisfying brass instead of the choir. It's a little more classy. Shame we're unlikely to have the original material return for the sequel, let alone its composer. Sharkissimo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,415 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Urgh.Great music is not subject to current trends Lee. You are becoming a victim of the Gravity type music wallpaper type score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,449 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Current trends? That's not it at all. It's simple changing tastes. My taste has evolved in the time since ID4, I've become much more fussy. But yes: I've always also been a fan of off-beat or avant garde scoring approaches, too. Pretty much ever since I saw the likes of Suspiria and Dawn of the Dead. Older than Gravity you'll find. This paranoia people attach to new wave scoring has to stop. It's pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,415 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Not paranoide, just generally not that interested in music that doesnt really work well on it's own. (My main issue with Gravity)Who is talking about Avant Garde here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,449 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 I couldn't care less if it doesn't work well on its own if it worked brilliantly for the movie, Steef. You and I want different things from musical score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,415 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Interesting.So are you gonna buy the Gravity score?What do you want from a musical score lee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,449 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 It's not really all that interesting or revelationary when I've consistently held that line of thought and debate for years here.I have no interest in the Gravity score whatsoever outside of the movie. It'd bore me. I want a score to take a good film and make it great. If it so happens that the musical style of the score aligns with my own recreational musical tastes then that's a happy bonus and I'll seek out the album. John, Jerry and James et al were awesome happy coincidences in that regard, for which I'm eternally thankful. They provided me with some great albums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Train Station 8,680 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Jerry in particular wrote some weird scores that only derenged whackjobs like myself listen to apart from their respective films. But I just can't get into the ambience-for-ambience-sake scores that are in-vogue these days.ID4eva! Sharkissimo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,647 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 I don't mind ambience and minimal at all, but in current film music this is often confused with 'minimal content'. If you listen to minimalist stuff like THE HOURS or THE CLAIM, TREE OF LIFE or even SOLARIS and MOON, you can find all sorts of interesting things going on within the set parameters. Bear McCreary also did some great videogame stuff or EUROPA REPORT in that style.GRAVITY has some interesting moments apart from the vomit-inducing RCP ending but they are not sustained or musically sound enough apart from the images. And that goes for a lot of recent JNH and Zimmer scores, too. There's a 2-hour wall of music that does not do anything for long stretches of time. Brónach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,449 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 As I mentioned in my review of the movie, Gravity has a couple of cheap score faux pas in there. The sudden shrieks to make you jump etc. Could have done without that and stayed classy, but I guess Alfonso doesn't yet fully have the courage of his convictions or something. Bear did a cracking job with Europa Report, I agree. A pleasant surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,801 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Hook by John WilliamsFitzwilly by John WilliamsThe Witches of Eastwick by John WilliamsWhen the Whales Came by Christopher GunningHella W. by Panu AaltioDefiance by James Newton Howard bespinGPT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,974 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Whenever I hear the dreaded phrase 'composer/sound designer' I reach for my gun. Brónach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,647 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Stalingrad: Enjott SchneiderEngaging score to a huge (and grim) 1993 german movie about...you guessed it...the battle of Stalingrad. Schneider was burdened with a Terminator temp track but the end result sounds more like a crossing of Poledouris and Horner with its big symphonic push (with russian overtones) and the clanging rhythms. The fateful main theme is memorable and gets a good and varied workout (Schneider is a well-trained composer with serious symphonic chops). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3nMi3vwDsM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 9,048 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 I haven't consciously heard much by Schneider, but I remember seeing Schwabenkinder many years ago and being excited by his score. Can't remember a single note of it though, so who knows how I'd react today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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