Rachael Foley 10,032 Posted February 11, 2012 Posted February 11, 2012 Since our posts were infecting the John Williams Action Music thread, I thought I should start this thread.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RdaWm-w_9Uhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd0S5cvZKAUhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RdaWm-w_9Uhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIo8BZTjrYo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsLrwHIKlws
Quintus 6,340 Posted February 11, 2012 Posted February 11, 2012 Indeed. And at last it should be a sticky.
Admiral Holdo 16 Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 Two words: The Meld.Two more words: The Construction.Four more words: Have A Nice Trip.Five more words: This Goldsmith guy fuckin' rocks.
Xander Harris 9,577 Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 Air Force One has been showing and I've been tuning in just to hear the kickass score.
Trent B 354 Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 Air Force One has been showing and I've been tuning in just to hear the kickass score.It definitely is a bad ass score. I love the near complete boot for it. I'm irritated though that Varèse has the rights for the score in perpetuity. We may never see a legit expanded release for it.
tharpdevenport 4 Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 Trent, I comparred the old boot to the new one with excellent sound, and then aganst the film -- if you combine the properly, it's the complete score, with some cues not used, some alternates*.* = There are, however, two pick-ups missing. The Main Title has some opening bars not on either boot, and another cue (that's I don't recall the name of) has a brief extended ending.
KK 3,310 Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 Woah...do you mean to say in all this time, JWFan has never had an official Goldsmith tread?! That's a lot to take in...I might need a minute....
Xander Harris 9,577 Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 Feel free to post any interviews where Goldsmith comes off like a bit of a dick.
MrJosh 1,192 Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 Cool....I've been going through my Jerry collection over the past couple weeks, I think I might try to rank them fav to least.
Trent B 354 Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 Feel free to post any interviews where Goldsmith comes off like a bit of a dick.During one of the session boots for Star Trek The Motion Picture you can hear Goldsmith snapping at a couple of the musicians telling them sharply to be quiet.
tharpdevenport 4 Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 And telling Joel something like, "Joel, you think you can get back to work now?"But yopu got to remember, this wasn't a fun-filled thing for him, this was work and he took it very seriously. Except that one time he put on a gorilla mask for POTA. ;-)Just watch those 24+ minute of sessions from "Menphisto Waltz" on Youtube. Just watch all those interviews on Youtube. Just read any of his interviews in magazines, like Soundtrack!.Where one might see a "dick", another with stronger work princaples might see a man with a love and passion, under studio pressure (each minute of recording in very pricey...) to get it done, while at the same time making any producer/directors there happy, and not alienating the musicians in the process. And he had at least two kids, a divorce, a drinking habbit at one time, and then illness that lead to his death. Give the man a little room.
chuck 155 Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 Here's one interview that clearly shows Goldsmith being such a dick.
publicist 4,650 Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 Where one might see a "dick", another with stronger work princaples might see a man with a love and passion, under studio pressure (each minute of recording in very pricey...) to get it done, while at the same time making any producer/directors there happy, and not alienating the musicians in the process. And he had at least two kids, a divorce, a drinking habbit at one time, and then illness that lead to his death. Give the man a little room.I have the RIVER WILD sessions footage on the Goldsmith DVD and i honestly can't see any behaviour that would intimidate a 10-year old. I meet men far more edgy in daily working life. The world just isn't a place inhabited by wise wizards gifting supreme powers at a whim, friendly fairies smiling lovingly or boisterous hero types.
Incanus 5,889 Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 Where one might see a "dick", another with stronger work princaples might see a man with a love and passion, under studio pressure (each minute of recording in very pricey...) to get it done, while at the same time making any producer/directors there happy, and not alienating the musicians in the process. And he had at least two kids, a divorce, a drinking habbit at one time, and then illness that lead to his death. Give the man a little room.I have the RIVER WILD sessions footage on the Goldsmith DVD and i honestly can't see any behaviour that would intimidate a 10-year old. I meet men far more edgy in daily working life. The world just isn't a place inhabited by wise wizards gifting supreme powers at a whim, friendly fairies smiling lovingly or boisterous hero types.I think in film music industry all composers have to have a quite strict discipline and authority to keep the ball rolling and recording sessions going. I do not think that you should label a man "a dick" for trying to maintain schedule and professional atmosphere when the clock is ticking and people should be in line. Everybody has a bad day sometimes, everybody has some issues that might affect their work and relationships at work, no matter how professional they might be. What I have seen from any recording sessions (only video material) are people highly disciplined doing amazing work with tight schedules and budgets, being very no-nonsense about it and keeping a strict order to do so. You do not have to run recording sessions like a Nazi concentration camp but the other end of the spectrum is not happy-go-lucky atmosphere where people goof around. Sometimes people actually deserve what they have gotten from a composer/conductor if they have not been sharp enough that day.
publicist 4,650 Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 I don't doubt that Goldsmith could be a pretty grumpy fellow, but fans often seem to expect a fleshborn incarnation of their deep affection which quite understandably puzzles a lot of artists more than it flatters them.I saw both Williams and Goldsmith in concert, and i can flat out tell you that the line-up of often quite impolite nerds with a stack of 40 LP's to sign would make me very irascible after a while. Wouldn't you believe all the complaints you could read on FSM later how 'unapproachable' the composers were? These stories get repeated ad nauseum et voilá, first class prick is your new label!
tharpdevenport 4 Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 I remember one story from a member, possibly on FSM, who told he somehow got invited to a session (I forget which score), and he brought a little bag of CD's to sign, if the chance arouse, but he decided not to. Goldsmith was polite, chatted briefly, and he had a great time, and when he left and retrieved his bag, when he wasn't looking, guess who signed them?Great little story.
Xander Harris 9,577 Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 Hey, it was nothing against Goldsmith. Judging from many appearances I've seen, he was a very blunt, no-nonsense kinda guy. Not a bad guy or anything. No doubt he was a workhorse, professional, musical God, etc. It's not about signing autographs or whatever. I would say he was something like a cross between Spock and McCoy. When examining the Beatles of film scoring, he was clearly the balls.
John Crichton 4 Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 Woah...do you mean to say in all this time, JWFan has never had an official Goldsmith tread?! That's a lot to take in...I might need a minute...."Official" threads are still a relitively new phenomenon, back in "the day" we didn't really bother with them.As I said in his birthday thread I've been going through my whole Goldsmith collection and have been loving it. Discovered new love for some scores I never thought much of before, reaffirmed it for others. Might post some thoughts when I get done.
Xander Harris 9,577 Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 Soarin' just played in shuffle. What a phenomenal piece of music. Totally transcends the ride. Hell, the music MAKES the ride.
indy4 160 Posted February 14, 2012 Posted February 14, 2012 Although I think it would still be a great ride without the music.
KK 3,310 Posted February 14, 2012 Posted February 14, 2012 Woah...do you mean to say in all this time, JWFan has never had an official Goldsmith tread?! That's a lot to take in...I might need a minute...."Official" threads are still a relitively new phenomenon, back in "the day" we didn't really bother with them.Oh, I see. Its just I'm surprised that Desplat and lesser known composers like Abel Korzeniowski (although he's exceptionally talented) have gotten "Official" threads and the legend Goldsmith, hasn't So guys, whats your favourite Goldsmith score? Tough question, I know
chuck 155 Posted February 14, 2012 Posted February 14, 2012 and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XikdFShYvoM
Wojo 2,458 Posted February 15, 2012 Posted February 15, 2012 What's funny is that one of the doorbells where I work is the same ascending interval that opens the fanfare to Goldsmith's Masada. So everytime someone wants in, I immediately think of that theme.
chuck 155 Posted February 15, 2012 Posted February 15, 2012 The few film cameo appearances of Jerry Goldsmith:
Jill Sandwich 11,047 Posted February 18, 2012 Posted February 18, 2012 Not many directors give their composer a cameo. Joe Dante is the man!
Jonesy 55 Posted February 18, 2012 Posted February 18, 2012 I've just found a website about Goldsmith (in french) http://www.goldsmith-themusicallaw.net
Johnnyecks 33 Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 All this thread does is make me miss his talent even more. The great things that he could've done......
chuck 155 Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HrHXQyQlGo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FUEvtYg0uc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKJ4UIVbFYc
Xander Harris 9,577 Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 I'm a big fan of his slightly altered theme for the end titles of Star Trek: Insurrection, with the muted notes. Amazing recording to boot. Brings the house down every time.
Rachael Foley 10,032 Posted February 19, 2012 Author Posted February 19, 2012 I'm a hater of his slightly altered theme for the end titles of Star Trek: Insurrection, with the muted notes. Terrible recording to boot. annoys me every timeFixed!
chuck 155 Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 The Jerry Goldsmith's Star Trek Concert Suites. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qGLqxzR0L0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOcaeFyyYMMhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqeSots7uYYhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAl95zzv4M4
222max 1 Posted February 21, 2012 Posted February 21, 2012 The few film cameo appearances of Jerry Goldsmith: That looks like Goldsmith's wife, Carol next to him in that Gremlins 2 clip.
chuck 155 Posted February 21, 2012 Posted February 21, 2012 The few film cameo appearances of Jerry Goldsmith: That looks like Goldsmith's wife, Carol next to him in that Gremlins 2 clip.That was Carol Goldsmith.
Xander Harris 9,577 Posted February 26, 2012 Posted February 26, 2012 Love hearing that in the concourse surrounding Spaceship Earth. Perfect music for EPCOT.
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